360 or PC

[fmfirefly]

It fits into both forums so I'll post it here. Ok well I d'loaded the demo and it runs really bad on my pc,

I have

AMD 64 3500 +
1gb ram
Nvidia 6200 with turbo cache

It's clear the my gfx card is the problem as I have to lower all the settings down to low and the resolution at 800*600to get a smoothish performance.

So I was wondering if I got GRAW for the 360 what would I be missing out on I presume the multiplayer would be much better on the pc but is their anything else e.g. would I not be able to command the soldiers movements aswell because their might not be enough buttons on the 360 contoller? Finally at the moment I dont have Xbox live so it would be pointless me buying the 360 version if theirs a problem with it and I can't fix it.

[A_M_S_DNJ..]

Um As its looking now, GRAW for 360 seems much better.

I dont know if there are any issues with GRAW 360 out the box. Take a look on the 360 forums.

[RichKans]

GRAW PC has potential yes its not easy like run shoot like most fps you have to be tatical etc I love the 360 version and i still do the MP side of it is just plain fun! all of the mexico levels on the 360 version are stunning! infact they are better looking than the PC. They are completely different engines and feel different so its hard to really say both are good in their own ways...hmmm I just have more fun with the 360 version esp playing the mexico levels (always play them over and over :-D) and controlling tanks and apaches. I love the enviroments and the sun glare and the explosions are great when bowing up vehicles and using greande launchers, you really feel the impact.. if you have a good enough pc to run GRAW PC then go for it if not then go for the 360 version i dont know what do you guys think?

[Woosy]

Quite the opposite actually, You would have more weapons, more mp modes over 1000 server settings TDM etc, player customisation. I think there is over 50+ unique looks, graphics are far superior to the pc and run very smooth. There is co-op with a campaign, terroristhunt and domination game modes, again over 20+ weapons for that mode.

Interface is easier to use and set way points to your team mates to move to, tactical map exactly the same as the pc but basic not as detailed.

The downside really is that it isn't as tatcial in the respect you can run and gun, there isn't a first person weapon, there is a peak but it's not as good as the pc version.

[RLCSeMPeRFi]

it "looks" better on 360.

it "plays" better on PC.

Make the choice.

[RichKans]

well GR first person never had the weapon showing i still got GR1 and 2 and they dont have any weapons shwing on the PC just the cross hair like the 360, i think its better without the gun showing they could of made that an option

[fmfirefly]

Originally posted by RLCSeMPeRFi:
it "looks" better on 360.

it "plays" better on PC.

Make the choice.

Ok then, well if it plays better on the pc, can you can answer me this, I'd be willing to pay around â£150 for a gfx card which should I go for? oh I think mines PCI-E, and before anyone posts a link to the "will your pc run graw" thread I want your own personal opinion.

[gyrocx]

Hey fmfirefly have you installed the latest drivers for your nvidia card. That improved my performance bigtime when I installed the latest drivers. Just wanted to put that out there before you start spending money on a new card. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Peanut_Budder]

I dont have a 360, but I'm getting a friend GRAW for 360 and I'm getting it for hte PC version myself. If you're waiting for a full version vs. full version response, I'd be happy to chip in on May 2nd

[fmfirefly]

Originally posted by gyrocx:
Hey fmfirefly have you installed the latest drivers for your nvidia card. That improved my performance bigtime when I installed the latest drivers. Just wanted to put that out there before you start spending money on a new card. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for you advice mate but I don't how to check what driver I have for my card, also where can I get the drivers from as the nvidia site is confusing. Ah I just figured it out however it says my card is not "WHQL certified" for the driver.

[BabyShambles01]

The fact you even ran this game with a 6200TC is quite cool. I'm suprised the card was able to actually. Their like â£30.00 brand new.

[fmfirefly]

Originally posted by BabyShambles01:
The fact you even ran this game with a 6200TC is quite cool. I'm suprised the card was able to actually. Their like â£30.00 brand new.

I know what you mean mate but can someone quicly tell me what WHQL Certified means??

[gyrocx]

Well Im using the 84.43 beta drivers for my 6800GS 256

Are you running Windows XP?
IF so look here http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_84.43.html

Read all the info carefully but use at your own risk.

[JulietHotel13]

fmfirefly what i think RLCSeMPeRFi was trying to say is that graphics wise 360 is better but gameplay wise the pc is better

[newbielives]

I say get both, because it will be like playing entirely different games.

I have the 360 version running on 32" LCD and it plays and looks great, but I'm also really interested in the PC version but unfortunately my FX5900XT can't handle it.

All I see is black http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[fmfirefly]

Originally posted by JulietHotel13:
fmfirefly what i think RLCSeMPeRFi was trying to say is that graphics wise 360 is better but gameplay wise the pc is better

Ok well thanks for all your help but can someone tell me all the different features and how the gameplay is better on the pc version. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[OFPN_Shadow]

Originally posted by fmfirefly:
can someone quicly tell me what WHQL Certified means??
WHQL is a certification a driver gets after MS has tested it. Only the drivers listed on Nvidia.com gets that certification. Beta-drivers do not. But its nothing that should stop you from installing a non-WHQL driver. Its more a formality than anything else.
84.43beta seems to be the driver to go for. I've never tried any other driver. Had that installed for a while now and never any issues.

[m1k3dman]

I have demo on PC and 360. First of all the both look great. I have a high end machine and run it at 1920 x 1200. Rocks (did have lag issues and still have sound issues in hardware mode) but all in all in looks great.

Differences I noticed... I like the colour video in the corner (360) rather than wireframe on PC. Mind you full screen on PC is good as well. Pitty PC can't have colour video. At least give us the option to turn it on or off. No different than rear view mirrows in car games really.

Prefer tactical map in PC and gameplay on PC. I struggle with the controller on the 360. But in saying that I am a PC boy, keyboard and mouse is what I am used to. No doubt a console user would prefer the 360.

What would I buy? .... PC. Only if I had a high end machine. Reasons. With any luck the game will take off and their will be a lot of expansions / mods (with any luck). PC's give you a more flexible solution.

Please note these are my personal views. Don't **** on me if you don't agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[fmfirefly]

Originally posted by m1k3dman:
I have demo on PC and 360. First of all the both look great. I have a high end machine and run it at 1920 x 1200. Rocks (did have lag issues and still have sound issues in hardware mode) but all in all in looks great.

Differences I noticed... I like the colour video in the corner (360) rather than wireframe on PC. Mind you full screen on PC is good as well. Pitty PC can't have colour video. At least give us the option to turn it on or off. No different than rear view mirrows in car games really.

Prefer tactical map in PC and gameplay on PC. I struggle with the controller on the 360. But in saying that I am a PC boy, keyboard and mouse is what I am used to. No doubt a console user would prefer the 360.

What would I buy? .... PC. Only if I had a high end machine. Reasons. With any luck the game will take off and their will be a lot of expansions / mods (with any luck). PC's give you a more flexible solution.

Please note these are my personal views. Don't **** on me if you don't agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'm a pc boy myself so I pretty much agree with what your saying the pc version will be better supported after the game and will IMO have a better multiplayer. Ok than instead of starting a new thread could you recommend improvements to run GRAW well, I don't want to spend more than â£160. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JG27_Arklight]

It really depends on what optons you want and what your current PC specs are.

The 360 version looks quite a bit better. It's downright gorgeous on an HDTV, and it runs smooth as silk. You don't have 1st-Person weapons, but you can lock the 1st-Person view if you want so you the whole GR1 view. You can also play Over-The-Shoulder which is also a lot fo fun. Also, you have a lot of options for tailoring your online games to suit your play style. I play a lot of co-op online witht he 360 version and I have yet to see anybody just running around shooting. The guys that I have played with are all really into tactical gameplay. Also, if you are into SP, I don't have any issues with the A.I. either. My team does what I tell it too, defends when I want it to, follows, etc.., without issue.

The PC version obviously has its own intrinsic benefits as well. The 1st-Person weapons view is really nice and the sounds are quite good. The problem, right now anyways, is that the PC version seems ot lack in MP modes, AC capability, graphics quality (no FSAA, etc..), A.I. (good at times, not so much in others. It's fairly inconsistent). It also seems to require quite a system in order to run well. However, the tactical map on the PC is supposed to be better then the 360 version though.

It is really up to you. If you have an HDTV (works fine on SDTV though) you can get the 360 version and be playing instantly without having to upgrade, which can get quite expensive. Even ifd you do upgrade, it still won't look as good as the 360 version. Console games also seem to get more support from the developers, so you can probably expect free downloadable content and some pay-for content as well. The PC version, as it stands, is still a toss up in that nobody really knows what will happen with it. When MP modes are added, will they be any good? Will there be more maps? If so, how many? Will the code be optimized? Will FSAA capability be added? Will there be Dedicated Server support? If so, when? Will there be moddability (a HUGE benefit to PC titles, especially the GR series)? etc... etc..

In all honesty, there are just too many unanswered questions for me to recommend the PC version over the 360 version. I'm a diehard PC fan, much more then I am a console fan....but I just can't give my vote to the PC version right now. Ultimately, it's your money and play style though that should dictate your purchase. You could always rent the 360 version and see if you like it before you decide.

Hope this helps.

[claybillings]

Plain and Simple the PC is better. Why you ask. Mod Community.

PC will have far superior replay value because of a loving and intelligent mod community that will increase the life of this game drastically. Also it seems that GRIN is very motivated to keep this game updated, patched, and giving us new maps and gameplay features (ala the new modes).

[JG27_Arklight]

Originally posted by claybillings:
Plain and Simple the PC is better. Why you ask. Mod Community.

PC will have far superior replay value because of a loving and intelligent mod community that will increase the life of this game drastically. Also it seems that GRIN is very motivated to keep this game updated, patched, and giving us new maps and gameplay features (ala the new modes).

Has it even been stated officially that GRAW will have moddability?

All the other stuff isn't really a benefit of the PC over the Console version since the console version no doubt has support for upgrades, etc.. in the form of downloadable content.

[turboruf]

This is an easy question to answer. The PC wins hands down for two simple reasons... a keyboard and mouse (more precise).

I’ll take on any 360 owner in multiplayer DM and run circles around them using a keyboard and mouse. The opposing thumbs thing just doesn’t cut it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[JG27_Arklight]

Originally posted by turboruf:
This is an easy question to answer. The PC wins hands down for two simple reasons... a keyboard and mouse (more precise).

I’ll take on any 360 owner in multiplayer DM and run circles around them using a keyboard and mouse. The opposing thumbs thing just doesn’t cut it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

They actually did a test between a guy with a mouse/keyboard, and a guy with a gamepad (2 Halo Players....1 PC Halo guy, and 1 XBOX Halo guy). In close to medium range, the gamepad did beat the keyboard and mouse. In long range, the keyboard/mouse won.

You'd be suprised how good some people are with a gamepad. Don't discount the abilities of others....some of them are pretty good with that little gamepad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[phantom110565]

Yes. It has been stated officially that GRAW will be moddable. It's supposed to have editors and stuff ready to go. As well as some files and other stuff.

[JG27_Arklight]

Originally posted by phantom110565:
Yes. It has been stated officially that GRAW will be moddable. It's supposed to have editors and stuff ready to go. As well as some files and other stuff.


That's good news.
Thx, Phantom.

[Ghost_Hybrid]

Originally posted by A_M_S_DNJ..:
Um As its looking now, GRAW for 360 seems much better.

I dont know if there are any issues with GRAW 360 out the box. Take a look on the 360 forums.

Gee a statement with no use....boy o boy thanks for sharing.

Come on man, what is the difference?

Oh I'll tell you. Its starts with the 360 controller, sluggish at that. Compare that to a mouse and keyboard and the argument is set to rest.

Graphically the game is right there along side the 360, but wait if you check the forums you'll see complaints about graphical tearing...hmmm haven't experienced any of that with my trusty pc.

Perspective anyone? oh gee over the shoulder view fps? nuff said....

At this stage of the game, if you need to ask what the differences are than you don't deserve to own a PC!

Half of the people around here ask frivelous questions about the obvious. Poke you're nose around and stop stirring up arguments that'll never end.....

Buy both and decide for yourself don't let the negative blind you from the positive.