view of the whole thing from a flight sim newbie

[bfsparty]

for what it is worth: went to the store at Christmas to grab a playstation Move for the kids, thought the Wii sucked, breezed by the PS3 game row, kaboom. Wings of Prey. Flashbacks to when I learned to fly sailplanes as a teen, flying my dad's T-34B in my 20's. NO idea this stuff existed. Ripped through it. What a rush. the sound through a home theater is awesome. Then I find out CoD is to be relased. By a rig, X52 Pro, put a 60" inch plasma on the wall as the "monitor", the works, and get used to PC game play with A10C, which after a few hours flying was boring.....since in US, buy CoD from Just Flight, and here I type.

the visuals are stunning-over water only. the cockpit details are mind blowing, and what it experience to strap into an evil 109. Yet constant issues, it runs fine then starts stuttering with a new "update". over land the scenery is such a buzz kill, and I get no sense for the incredible scenery rush at full bore like wings of prey, it is slow.....and boring actually. I love the game, the whole genre, and am sticking by it, yet going back to wings of prey after just way too constant adjustments and frustration. the net: right now, CoD to me is really not fun, not a thrill ride, so packing it up for the summer and lets see what happens in the fall. Good luck!



Since in the US

[JSG72]

This ain't no PaP. ride.

Just like Real flying. You have to stick with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[nvrsummer2]

If you want to see a well rounded sim, find a copy of IL2 1946. The graphics arent anything to write home about, but you will see what all the hype is about. The expanse of the mods alone is mind blowing. And when your chasing a P-38/P-51 in your BF-109, you will forget all about the landscape. To me, if I want scenery while I fly, ill play FSX. Its the stuff you dont really see in IL2 that makes it what it is. And why its been around for 10 years.

Your right, its not in a good state right now, but will be in 6 months. get 1946 and in six months you will have hardly dented the material out there for it. And COD should be better by then. The team behind it has commited to making it see its full potential. And after 10 years they have yet to let me down. Hell, there is a team still cranking out official patches for IL2 1946.

[M_Gunz]

Originally posted by nvrsummer2:
If you want to see a well rounded sim, find a copy of IL2 1946.

+1

Especially if you're new to flight sims (and you aren't obsessively picky) it should blow your socks off. Just -be sure- to get a stick with rudder control or a stick with good pedals as rudder use is critical to getting good results.

Best part, IL-2:1946 can be gotten for $10 or less and plays well on much less PC than CoD minimum required.

[bfsparty]

1946 looked cool, and it was where where I wanted to go. However, I saw that it runs on XP only, and my new comuputer is a Windows 7 64 bit device. Can my brand new system, purchased for CoD, run 1946? If it can no brainer! Thanks.

[ANGST]

Originally posted by bfsparty:
1946 looked cool, and it was where where I wanted to go. However, I saw that it runs on XP only, and my new comuputer is a Windows 7 64 bit device. Can my brand new system, purchased for CoD, run 1946? If it can no brainer! Thanks.


Sure not a problem. Google windows7 and il2 and there will be easy to follow instructions.

[Tully__]

Originally posted by bfsparty:
1946 looked cool, and it was where where I wanted to go. However, I saw that it runs on XP only, and my new comuputer is a Windows 7 64 bit device. Can my brand new system, purchased for CoD, run 1946? If it can no brainer! Thanks.
I have it running just dandy on Win7 64. See http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655/m/2861000908 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/2861000908) for the securom fix (US version does not have securom anyway) and make sure you install it to a location outside the "C:\Program Files" folder.

[bfsparty]

thanks, will give this a go.

my LAST question on this: I imagine if I have a system that exceeds the recommended requirements for CoD, I should be just fine with 1946. Any idea what type of FPS 1946 will generate? Reason is ask, if it is somewhat close to wings of prey on a PS3, it allows me to run the video and sound via an HDMI connection through a home theater system, rather than split the sound HDMI for video/digital cable to receiver via sound card. thanks.

[Ba5tard5word]

You should be getting somewhere around 40-60 fps in Il-2.

Il-2 is great to play on a big TV. If you want to run the video to your TV then use an HDMI cable, and if you want to pipe the sound out to a home theater system, just plug your sound system into your pc's audio jack and set the stereo system as your sound output in your pc's audio settings. If you want both the video and sound to go to your TV, just use an HDMI cable. My GTX 470 has a mini-HDMI jack that lets me plug an HDMI cable from the card to my TV and it plays video and sound on the TV.

[VW-IceFire]

On a modern right with vsync disabled? Easily over 100 fps even in the thick of things. With it enabled it'll just peg out at 60fps or 75fps or whatever your refresh rate is. So far as I know HDMI won't be an issue there... it'll be more about the TV/monitor that it's hooked up to.

[M_Gunz]

You can run 1946 till the bugs get worked out of CoD. The biggest working difference is in depth of the models and not having much experience with the old IL-2 should give you plenty of time for fun before you develop peeves unless you're obsessively picky.

Peeves -- no PC yet made is capable of running a perfect simulation so there will always be inaccuracies. No people are up to getting all the knowable details right even to the level a PC is capable of showing. And some mugs just have to have their beloved swastikas! Not to mention flight modeling... why at some certain altitude bands the 109K climbs too well and for some people that means there's a whining sound when they even see one! It sounds like Whaaaaaa! If you can't stand planes that don't fly by your favorite charts (I really doubt that you have this problem! LOL!) then watch out as IL-2 is not "flying on rails" tightly matched to favorite charts. Not only that but here and there are instruments wrong or not working and I bet if you count rivets there are places those are "wrong" too.

As you can guess, the peeves perceived are a matter of the player's ability to take it for what it is or not.

[JSG72]

Originally posted by M_Gunz:
You can run 1946 till the bugs get worked out of CoD. The biggest working difference is in depth of the models and not having much experience with the old IL-2 should give you plenty of time for fun before you develop peeves unless you're obsessively picky.

Peeves -- no PC yet made is capable of running a perfect simulation so there will always be inaccuracies. No people are up to getting all the knowable details right even to the level a PC is capable of showing. And some mugs just have to have their beloved swastikas! Not to mention flight modeling... why at some certain altitude bands the 109K climbs too well and for some people that means there's a whining sound when they even see one! It sounds like Whaaaaaa! If you can't stand planes that don't fly by your favorite charts (I really doubt that you have this problem! LOL!) then watch out as IL-2 is not "flying on rails" tightly matched to favorite charts. Not only that but here and there are instruments wrong or not working and I bet if you count rivets there are places those are "wrong" too.

As you can guess, the peeves perceived are a matter of the player's ability to take it for what it is or not.

+1
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I have the "Swastica gripe" though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

[WTE_Galway]

Originally posted by JSG72:


+1
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I have the "Swastica gripe" though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

IL2-MAT http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[bfsparty]

Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bfsparty:
1946 looked cool, and it was where where I wanted to go. However, I saw that it runs on XP only, and my new comuputer is a Windows 7 64 bit device. Can my brand new system, purchased for CoD, run 1946? If it can no brainer! Thanks.
I have it running just dandy on Win7 64. See http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655/m/2861000908 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/2861000908) for the securom fix (US version does not have securom anyway) and make sure you install it to a location outside the "C:\Program Files" folder. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

perfect, downloading 1946, yet the price at 6.99 US was a real barrier...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...so I download the secorum fix after the 1946 install then.

: where on my computer can I monitor FPS while the game is playing? I have an ATI 577O card if that helps. thanks.

and since i am sick of clicking around to move my view, does TrackIR really do what it is supposed to do, and which model does one buy?

[M_Gunz]

You can check out Cachya while waiting for TIR. (http://www.cachya.com/esight/overview.php)

What a lot people have done for views is to use a joystick hat switch. Be sure to set it up for snap view and pan view with another button or key to switch modes. That's the old way. Depending on your stick you might have a LOT of controls to use. An X-52 runs a good bit of cash but the really solid Thrustmaster gear makes the Saitek X-52 look kind of cheap.

Why not see if this kind of game will suit you before sinking a wad of cash into it?

[bfsparty]

thanks, the needle is sunk into this type of g video game, no worries there! : purchased X52 Pro months ago, use it with CoD and have it dialed in exactly where i want it as well with A10C... No worries if this type of game is for me, this stuff is intrinsic, and a true passion for me. Grew up with aircraft in the family, last plane I regularly flew (with my dad in it since no one would ensure a 23 year old college kid) was a mint conditioned T-34B. What a great plane, just super smooth and built like a tank...
Only reason did not go for military was my vision went south in HS. Sucked. TMI I know. Will try out TIR at a later date.

[Tully__]

X52 supports mouse emulation by default on the mini stick (under your thumb on the throttle) or with programming on any of the hats. You can use that for a smooth pan view control in both 1946 and CoD. You'll probably want a button assigned to center view as well.

[Insuber]

If you like flight sims I suggest you to invest in a trackir 5. Immensely more immersive and practical. There are freeware alternatives involving webcams, if you prefer to DIY.
Don't forget in the next few years to:

- Do online flight training with Joint-Ops (www.joint-ops.com), they are great chaps
- join a squad for bigger fun with virtual wars online
- fly online in Hyperlobby
- try mods

Enjoy!

[Xiolablu3]

Il2 1946 online is just incredible. I spent many enjoyable years honing my skills in the skies, and only stopped because of real world duties.

Such good times. And there is still a healthy scene online, download hyperlobby to browse /join games and arrange coops. In ingame server tool is useless.