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MuadDib_FC
04-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Hi again
It seems the most pressing questions regard the towns, their number and type, or name. The second question appears to be the polish version, we have a strong polish group here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
So about towns. This will be a very important change from previous versions of the game : there will be no "town type" as such, no factions. So basically, the number of towns will be zero.
But dont be afraid ! We will use a system where the development tree will allow you to create any type of town, by choosing from the complete list of buildings. That means you will create the town type you want, tailored to your precise will. You will thus be able to mix any sort of creature in any town ! You can re-create a specific town that you like, or try a completely new mix. We call this the "adaptable forts" system (af).
Of course, creating a random mix of buildings and creatures will not always be efficient. Certain mixes will work, others not. But this will be a whole new range of discoveries in the game ! Just like building a deck in a trading card game, you will search for the optimal combination, and try your luck and strategy against others.
I'd like to add that the efficiency of a town will also depend on where it is built. You will create towns starting from villages, found on the map. Either you leave these villages as they are when you capture them, and they will provide resources and taxes, as well as a bonus in movement points (when your armies come to rest). Or you build on them to create a new town. The type of village, the environment around it, will predestinate a more efficient sort of town. That means that a great mix will need to be adapted to the map you are playing on ! As any good strategy, you need to adapt to the battlefield.
As you can see from this "af" system, the number of possible towns in the game will be almost limitless, given the number of buildings you can make, and the resulting efficiency http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
As to the polish version... Ah well that was only one question http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That'll be for next time !
MuadDib_FC
04-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Hi again
It seems the most pressing questions regard the towns, their number and type, or name. The second question appears to be the polish version, we have a strong polish group here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
So about towns. This will be a very important change from previous versions of the game : there will be no "town type" as such, no factions. So basically, the number of towns will be zero.
But dont be afraid ! We will use a system where the development tree will allow you to create any type of town, by choosing from the complete list of buildings. That means you will create the town type you want, tailored to your precise will. You will thus be able to mix any sort of creature in any town ! You can re-create a specific town that you like, or try a completely new mix. We call this the "adaptable forts" system (af).
Of course, creating a random mix of buildings and creatures will not always be efficient. Certain mixes will work, others not. But this will be a whole new range of discoveries in the game ! Just like building a deck in a trading card game, you will search for the optimal combination, and try your luck and strategy against others.
I'd like to add that the efficiency of a town will also depend on where it is built. You will create towns starting from villages, found on the map. Either you leave these villages as they are when you capture them, and they will provide resources and taxes, as well as a bonus in movement points (when your armies come to rest). Or you build on them to create a new town. The type of village, the environment around it, will predestinate a more efficient sort of town. That means that a great mix will need to be adapted to the map you are playing on ! As any good strategy, you need to adapt to the battlefield.
As you can see from this "af" system, the number of possible towns in the game will be almost limitless, given the number of buildings you can make, and the resulting efficiency http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
As to the polish version... Ah well that was only one question http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That'll be for next time !
Pitsu
04-01-2005, 12:25 AM
Sounds interesting. In other note, it wasn't such a bad and uninformative question as I thought first. Thanks for the answer!
KingImp
04-01-2005, 12:36 AM
I can see it already. A lot of people are not going to be happy with this simply because that this is completely against how all other Heroes games were.
Personally I'm not going to bash the idea. I want to see how it actually works before forming an opinion. Right now I don't know how I feel about the idea. On one hand it offers a lot more variety in gameplay, but on the other hand the whole idea behind having certain creatures in certain towns was the morale factor. Now that's completely gone.
Here's to hoping my one question of when the public would be getting a demo is answered soon so we can actually see how this new system works.
JoniJM
04-01-2005, 12:37 AM
Thanks for your answer! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I hope this is not an April fool joke, because the information was quite promising concidering how addictive Heroes V might get.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Ps. Ok, it is an April fool! *Puuh* Iâ´d stick into Rampart town anyway no matter how much variety..
Sighurd
04-01-2005, 12:40 AM
Sounds like the balance will be impossible to achieve.
Max_Apes
04-01-2005, 12:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Or you build on them to create a new town. The type of village, the environment around it, will predestinate a more efficient sort of town. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ehh, I know from where was this Idea.. thanks, Fabrice! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Medusa-
04-01-2005, 12:48 AM
Thank you for the answers.
It will be kinda strange not to have towns anymore, but I can't judge until I've played the game.
Although seeing monks and vampires in one army could look strange.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
CapitaineNicool
04-01-2005, 12:51 AM
That sounds a bit...weird but it can add A LOT of depth and tactical choices.
I just hope towns won't lose their identity, sadly a town full of undead buldings won't look very undeadish with this system.
But one thing is sure, we'll have to use our brain with this system. I'm curious to know more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Vitirr
04-01-2005, 12:51 AM
No possible balance, no identity.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>But this will be a whole new range of discoveries in the game ! Just like building a deck in a trading card game, you will search for the optimal combination, and try your luck and strategy against others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I really thought Etherlords wouldn't have anything to do with H5, now I see I was wrong.
Bad news indeed.
sketan
04-01-2005, 12:52 AM
Canâ´t you guys smell the april-fools joke a mile away?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
sketan
04-01-2005, 12:56 AM
And polish version?
If that is so then I would like to have a swedish version...
And norwegian would like to have a norwegian version...
And the people in Gambia would like to have a version translated to wollof...
You guys donâ´t get to learn english in school?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Lich_
04-01-2005, 12:57 AM
April's fools day anyone ?
DavHero
04-01-2005, 01:10 AM
Despite it can be some interesting idea, I think to myself: "af", which stands for "adaptable forts", stands also for "april's fool"... curious! :P
bye!
Dave
bursucu2005
04-01-2005, 01:10 AM
April 1st 2005... April fool. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
heroes w/o factions? com'on!!!
NECRO95
04-01-2005, 01:36 AM
If there are no "towns", why come out with the necropolis and inferno town screen shots?! come on! you got to be pulling our legs.... right?!!
(Angles & demons together... *shudder*)
tyfon_w
04-01-2005, 01:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> You can re-create a specific town that you like, or try a completely new mix. We call this the "adaptable forts" system (<span class="ev_code_RED">af</span>). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol...
Namerutan69
04-01-2005, 01:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sketan:
You guys donâ´t get to learn english in school?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
To study english can be a good idea for working, but isn't for playing.
sketan
04-01-2005, 01:49 AM
Ha ha...
Gotta hand it to ya Fabrice...that was a good one. I sure believed it was true when I first read it.
Didnâ´t even realize what "af" stood for, thanks to the guy who pointed that out.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Ribannah
04-01-2005, 01:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MuadDib_FC:
We will use a system where the development tree will allow you to create any type of town, by choosing from the complete list of buildings. That means you will create the town type you want, tailored to your precise will. You will thus be able to mix any sort of creature in any town! You can re-create a specific town that you like, or try a completely new mix. We call this the "adaptable forts" system (af).
Of course, creating a random mix of buildings and creatures will not always be efficient. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The concept can work very well, but it all hangs on that last point. If efficiency gains or other game aspects (loyalty? morale?) imply that you will usually tend to use creatures and buildings that belong to the same alignment, it is alright. If not, then part of the essence of Heroes is lost.
NECRO95
04-01-2005, 01:55 AM
wow, tks for pointing the af out, missed it there, i almost have to run crying to my girlfriend thinking that the necropolis doesn't exists anymore, *sniffle*
King_Haart
04-01-2005, 01:55 AM
April Fools Joke or not, the idea has some merit. I always thought it'd make sense if a devil town could build one or two necro buildings, or if a human knight's fort could call on the elves for help. Maybe each alignment can build one or two of a neighboring alignment's lower level dwellings?
Romanov77
04-01-2005, 01:58 AM
That would be rather creepy if it isnt a joke...
Just imagine the scum town that could be created... Monks and vampires.... the only faction avable would be...UTTER CHAOS...
Max_Apes
04-01-2005, 02:03 AM
Fabrice!!!
And where are the Pikachu's?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
You said "I think there is not enough Pikachu`s in recent games. I want to see more Pikachu`s."
(2003 December, 8)
Link:
http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes&action=display&s=0&num=1069241639&start=25
Leit.by
04-01-2005, 02:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Max_Apes:
Fabrice!!!
And where are the Pikachu's?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
You said "I think there is not enough Pikachu`s in recent games. I want to see more Pikachu`s."
(2003 December, 8)
Link:
http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes&action=display&s=0&num=1069241639&start=25 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Where are pokemons! Pikachu -- rules forever! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Aegicen
04-01-2005, 02:30 AM
My guess is that even if this system is indeed implemented, it will retain some sort of control over the possible ways of building a town. I don't think that the developers will allow the player to build towns randomly and combine any units/buildings/alignments in one. Perhaps some way of limiting this will be provided.
Romanov77
04-01-2005, 02:38 AM
Hehehe... A.F. System.... guess what A.F. really means...
We are so dumb... (Thanks to Wimfrits)
Again Fabrice, thats not a good marketing strategy, you could have lost a few customers this way!!!
Oscar-ius
04-01-2005, 02:38 AM
This is a joke...
Got this from Celestial Heavens:
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WolfPack and Tema I from Nival Interactive posted some information, on the Heroic Corner forums, about the game they are working on. Thanks to .NET for the quick translation:
Hotseat - yes.
People will be able to play an H5 demo (only humans vs inferno) at the upcoming (April 1-3) KRI conference in Russia, provided that the player signs up an NDA.
The game is nothing like Etherlords.
It is pointless to ask them questions on the forum. They will release portions of information on their site, and so will Ubisoft.
Creatures - there is no Devil on the screens. The creatures are Balor, Succubus, Nightmare and Demon. The second screen is from the battlefield, with the Balor having just taken some health from the Angel.
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Why in earth would they say that the demo would only include Human vs Inferno when having heard this from Fabrice? Well, he is joking with us, end of discussion.
Give us the right answere pls...
-Oscarius-
Romanov77
04-01-2005, 02:47 AM
Heheheh!!!
AF system!! wonder what AF REALLY means??? (thanks Wimfrits)
Silly Fabrice, you are going to lose a few customers with this unwise tactic!
Where have you been during the Marketing lessons?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Aegicen
04-01-2005, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>People will be able to play an H5 demo (only humans vs inferno) at the upcoming (April 1-3) KRI conference in Russia, provided that the player signs up an NDA. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, Nival states otherwise. They say that the attendees of KRI will only be able to see the game as Nival representatives show it. I.e. they won't be able to play it themselves.
Also a Nival representative has said to LaBoule (the author of Heroic Corner) that no big preview will be allowed until E3.
PaladinOfMM
04-01-2005, 03:02 AM
Haha.... well this is an interesting thread and I think it should be locking soon after April Fool ends in few more hours. Besides if Fabrice said that the new system is no town but using the "adaptable forts" system (af), I think it will make the producers and IT people crazy!! Seriously this idea will crack their heads till there won't be a game at all. Balance issue will be so difficult to solve.
But then I take this as AF joke. "af" system... April Fool system. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The-Filth
04-01-2005, 03:18 AM
That april fools system is brilliant!! I really,rally,really want to see it in the game!! doh!
FCY-JMDK-WLKY
04-01-2005, 03:19 AM
Man, I knew there had to be a catch when they just decided to let us ask any question about the project.
However, this might actually be true, and they're using the obvious AF reference to throw us all off. I just don't know what to make of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
FCY-JMDK-WLKY
04-01-2005, 04:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DavHero:
Thanks a lot, FCY-JMDK-WLKY (unpronounceable! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif ) user! I did not even try that "Go" link, and when I got tired of searching I preferred to ask. Well, when I find a proper picture, I will upload it.
"Let Heroes keep on being the best saga"
Dave <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It actually is pronouncable, but I'd have to make 2 minor incisions in your tongue http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifJust abreviate my name. Oh I assumed you knew you had to upload a pic, I've given this explanation a couple times before and very often you'll see C:\my documents\...
lord_stormwing
04-01-2005, 04:15 AM
Hi I gust want to invite you to THE CRONICLES OF HOMAM.
sgr_kaus
04-01-2005, 04:19 AM
the entire game in 3D, a screenshot of adventure map in false first person (like a shooter), no towns....maybe too many changes....we've to wait, but it sounds a piece of s***.
we dont want a 3D world, we want managament of entire armies.
Alukard
04-01-2005, 04:21 AM
"adaptable forts" system (af) - "April Fool" system (af)? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Vitirr
04-01-2005, 04:22 AM
Ok, this have to be a joke then, the AF thing is too obvious. This way there's no doubt that Fabrice will get the Evil F title instantly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
I think it's not a very wise marketing tactic too however. By now there will be lots of fans reading in fan sites this wrong information, the day after the game has been announced, and the first information released officialy since then. Do you really want a horde of angry fans on you giving bad press?. Strange at least.
DavHero
04-01-2005, 04:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It actually is pronouncable, but I'd have to make 2 minor incisions in your tongue Just abreviate my name. Oh I assumed you knew you had to upload a pic, I've given this explanation a couple times before and very often you'll see C:\my documents\... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ufffff... I like my tongue as it is! ;-) Yes, I knew I have to upload a pic, but it was the "Edit" Menu the thing I didn't find. Once there, the rest is no problem. Thanks, FCY-JMDK-WLKY!!
Dave
Romanov77
04-01-2005, 04:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vitirr:
Ok, this have to be a joke then, the AF thing is too obvious. This way there's no doubt that Fabrice will get the Evil F title instantly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
I think it's not a very wise marketing tactic too however. By now there will be lots of fans reading in fan sites this wrong information, the day after the game has been announced, and the first information released officialy since then. Do you really want a horde of angry fans on you giving bad press?. Strange at least. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That happens when you are too busy watching girls during the "marketing" lessons...
Btw, what about Leprachuns and their cheesy music theme??
Sikon_
04-01-2005, 04:41 AM
Considering "Evil F", I'm truly amazed that Fabrice hasn't been given this title even before the announcement.
Yuri_Kenobi
04-01-2005, 05:09 AM
This is cruel! Let us know the real towns! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
TAFKAA
04-01-2005, 05:39 AM
Heh good joke, if it indeed is a joke *hoping*. Would still be nice to have some kind answer though.
Oh and we don't care about any kind of translated version of the game, lazy people should just learn some english if they mind it that much.
Zamolxis108
04-01-2005, 05:41 AM
What's with you all guys. I liked the joke. It's nice to know Fabrice has a good sense of humor. If it would have been an obvious joke, I wouldn't have liked it so much.
Medusa-
04-01-2005, 05:44 AM
Haha, I actually was suspicious about this, also considered it to be a joke, but all in all decided to post normally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Happy AF.
Falsted
04-01-2005, 05:48 AM
Dang frigin!!
I thought this was actualyl true! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif(at least i hope its not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
You guys have to admit though, it was a good joke, come on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Yazman42
04-01-2005, 06:35 AM
Phew! I freaked out and thought this might have been true. If there really was a system like that I wouldn't get the game.
**** April Fool's day messing with my head!
Zamolxis108
04-01-2005, 07:03 AM
Well, as this was an April's Fool answer, we are then of course still waiting for the real answer (as promissed). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Salventus
04-01-2005, 07:39 AM
I don't think your going to be able to mix monks with vampires because there opposite alignment. He said there were restrictions too so I guess that's what he was talking about.
happylobster
04-01-2005, 07:43 AM
Of course, the real joke would be that this *is* the system and we just assumed it was only an April Fool's joke.
Lepastur
04-01-2005, 09:17 AM
Maybe all he says could be true, as someone said before, playing with people on this way it's a strange marketing strategy. If it were true, I don't see it bad at all, simlpy I try to understand these things on a logical point of view, not on an extreme one. I think the limitations will be so severe and due to this the factions would be almost fixed in order to get a full efficiency. In other words, we won't be able to get rid from some foolish alligments, so we won't build them if we wanna win.
Ribannah
04-01-2005, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PaladinOfMM:
Haha.... well this is an interesting thread and I think it should be locking soon after April Fool ends in few more hours. Besides if Fabrice said that the new system is no town but using the "adaptable forts" system (af), I think it will make the producers and IT people crazy!! Seriously this idea will crack their heads till there won't be a game at all. Balance issue will be so difficult to solve.
But then I take this as AF joke. "af" system... April Fool system. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmmm, I think the balance issue could be solved just fine. It's rather the feel of the game that needs attention here, but that, too, doesn't kill te idea. Add a storyline to it, where order results from a chaotic beginning, and you could have a magnificent game.
It would not be the first time that what started as an April Fool's joke ended up as the real thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Vitirr
04-01-2005, 10:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think the limitations will be so severe and due to this the factions would be almost fixed in order to get a full efficiency. In other words, we won't be able to get rid from some foolish alligments, so we won't build them if we wanna win. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It makes no sense, why whould they come up with this system if there will be so many restrictinos that the result is going to be almost the same as a fixed town?. From his words I get that there will be problems of efficiency but that doesn't mean that you cannot make weird line ups without much penalties.
And that's not the only problem, I want to have different towns not just the same starting village I may build to my will. There's a lack of personality there, there won't be different visual and musical styles for each town.
And if it were true, how on earth does the "nature" town concept art we could see last year fit in all this mess?. You can't make such a detailed, and rich concept art with all those (probably) nature dwellings if then the player may choose simply to build different buildings, (even inferno buildings). That would kill the whole art there. If this were true the towns concept art wouldn't be so detailed and there would be plenty of room for the unknown buildings. It's been some time since then, but do you really think they've changed the whole system in this period?. I don't think so.
I just hope this is all a big joke cause I don't like at all what I'm reading.
ConanHC
04-01-2005, 10:49 AM
Fabrice, can you please let us know if this was a AF joke?
XenophanesCD
04-01-2005, 10:50 AM
I was fooled...that makes it twice in one hour online. Really, though, I should have just thought of the screenshots and info we've already recieved...there is clearly a "Human" and a "Demon" town at the very least.
My major problem with the af idea has to do with storyline...without factions, how do you write in nations, war, etc.?
sxshopper
04-01-2005, 10:53 AM
Can you please answer ( this time without any jokes) to the question 'what towns are there in heroes5' ?...thanx
Pitsu
04-01-2005, 10:57 AM
I see that many people cannot sleep the entire weekend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif But an official comment to this "answer" before Monday would be nice indeed.
Valtor2
04-01-2005, 11:00 AM
Well, I can't really say that the af system is bad, could be quite interesting really....
I can't say either that the af joke was really bad too, I think it's really funny actually! Everybody is now wondering if it's a joke or not, and people are trying to believe wwhat they say when they are saying that it's a good joke....
I don't think it's a bad marketing strategy either, because the majority of fans will have read entirely this thread, or at least the first page, which allready states the april's fools idea...
in any case, might be a good idea Fabrice, OR that was really a good joke Fabrice!!
Valtor2
04-01-2005, 11:04 AM
I also want to state :
2000 reads in 11 hours? That's something!
Evenshade
04-01-2005, 11:41 AM
*broad grin* Nice one, Fabrice! "Evil F", indeed! :P
As for those people that still haven't figured out that this definitely IS a joke (or at least, 99% probable that it's a joke):
1. Fabrice posted concept art from Haven-like and Preserve-like towns last year;
2. The press release explicitly mentions the existence of different factions;
3. It's April Fools day, of course;
4. And, the special demo that privileged people get to play in a few months will feature a Castle and an Inferno.
Four facts that utterly decimate the chances of this being a fact. Which, of course, begs the question: Fabrice, is a real answer forthcoming?
Evenshade
04-01-2005, 11:44 AM
And by "real," I mean "factual", of course. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Oscar-ius
04-01-2005, 11:55 AM
Fabrice C'MON!!! Answere us, we know you're looking!
I'm going crazy man! Give us some answeres before our heads explodes, because then there will be no more heroes fans alive... and that is reeeeeeeeeealyyyyy baaaaaaad..... I tellllllllllllllllll youuuuuu....
Now stop watching your porn and get some attention to us. We shout out for some answeres!
Mike447a
04-01-2005, 02:07 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif hihihihi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
I can say this : The timing is perfect a.f. hihihi
it can be a joke .... and maybe not hihihi
i'm sure there are many person laughing !!
May I introduce a clue ?
Look at the Town Screenshot !!! the 2nd screen !
(I assume that it's a town - build on lava)
no ?????????
http://www.mightandmagicgame.com/ss/screen_02.jpg
And...
Where are the buildings ???
Only the town house ! where you would click for building !!!
No monster's house - only the monsters themself !!!
??????????
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif hihihihi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
??????????
And if ...
we want to recrute... just click on monster itself !?!?!
hummmmmmm...
and the number ??? 5 levels of monster ???
hihihihi it's only extrapolations hihihihi
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif hihihihi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif hihihihi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
i'm saying that ... just for confusing you ... a little bit more !!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
The-Filth
04-01-2005, 02:22 PM
but really. whats the "true " answer?
Im going to get some sleep now. and when i log on tomorrow i expect a real answer! buh..
Vitirr
04-01-2005, 02:37 PM
TO Mike447a:
That screen could perfectly be an adventure map picture. If that's a town I don't know what the nature town concept art was for. The artist did it just for fun not for the game?.
Salventus
04-01-2005, 09:33 PM
Customizing our towns? best idea ever!
Romanov77
04-01-2005, 10:27 PM
Only Leperchuns know the truth, dont ask Fabrice.
Captain_Stifu
04-02-2005, 12:35 AM
Someone here should go easy on the laughing gas.
sxshopper
04-02-2005, 01:54 AM
Hey MuadDib, the joke isn't funny anymore...tell us the real answer please. If you say 'A', then say 'B'.
Heroine_LL
04-02-2005, 02:15 AM
It's common to say you made a joke on april fool's day itself, not wait untill april 2 or later. Especially in this case when we are all dying for a real answer. BORING!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif
calif2005
04-02-2005, 02:33 AM
Don't forget that it's also weekend and probably no-one checks these boards, although I agree that keeping us hanging like that is cruel and they should make up for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
As a sort of question instead I'd propose posting 3 screenshots with NO interface removed:
- main game screen
- battle screen
- town (humans or inferno because it seems you have these so far)
these would keep fans occuppied for a week or two and making theories as to how it works http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
loonyjoe
04-02-2005, 06:38 AM
hey fabrice! we're waiting here...
errr...don't like threatening people, but i don't think you'd like us getting desperate? i assure you: you wouldn't...
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Salventus
04-02-2005, 06:44 AM
I guess from what I undrstood from the producer is that we can customize our towns when we find it on the adventure map. This might bring many strategic components to it. For example, if you find a town that is on grass and has several crusader and or champion outposts near that town then naturally you want to convert that town to a Castle town with Castle creatures. Or, lets say you found a town that you know your not going to keep it for long because it's too deep in enemy territories so you don't invest in it and keep it just to get some extra money.
The-Filth
04-02-2005, 07:05 AM
I'll just copy and paste what i just wrote on the Celestial Heavens forum:
Fabrice once said that towns will look better and have their own special feel or something.
I cant imagine what towns would be like that with a system where u can mix creatures and buildings.
Would a custom necro town still look like a necro town, with its gloom and doom? Would we get some kind of choice to have the town look like a necro town or elf town when we start to build?
Or do the dwellings and buildings we build descide the look?
He also mentioned that type of village and the environment will play a part in what sort of town will be most efficient.
So does this mean that the different types of villages could be necro village, elf village, wizard village etc? Located on necro terrain, elf terrain etc?
Would this mean that, lets say, a necro village has its own "look" that stays somewhat the same during the prosess of building up a town-castle-capitol, regardless if you choose to build necro, elf or mix buildings in it? Would the type of village descide what the buildings look like?
Or would the look of the necro village change more towards an elfish town(read village) if u choose to build elf buildings? And what would happen if you chosse to mix necro, elf and wizard buildings if the look of the starting village changes along with what you build? Would the type of buildings you build descide what the village/town look like?
And what about the heroes? Would they still start out in factions like necro, wizard, human, barbarian etc, when there are no town types anymore?
And if the heroes do start out in factions, would the hero type play a role in what type of town would be best fitting to build? I imagine a Inferno or necro hero wouldnt be so successfull in building a human town.
I know if this system it actually a fact and not a april's fool joke, I would be quite worried. The idea of limitless town dont seem like a good idea to me. And what about balance?
With this system I would probably choose two kinds of builds. I would choose to build a clean cut necro town because I love necro, and it would, to me, probably look the best. And when i would want to win, I would build the best overall town, where I of course would mix the best possible creatures that can be put together.
I can imagine that most people would build the best possible town when they want to win. What would this do to the multiplayer community? would everyone end up with the exact same build?
Salventus
04-02-2005, 07:40 AM
Have a general reply for The-Filth:
I don't think it's so much as the looks that matters because we already have seen some pics which looks great and I'm sure the towns will look great on the overhead adventure map. It's actually what type of buildings or creatures you want to recruit which we will have more of an option this time then the previous Titles. I mean we always kind of had the option of choosing between lets say 2 level four creatures in Heroes 4 and this time around we will have more options it seems.
KingImp
04-02-2005, 11:36 PM
After reading the arguments for pros and cons on this idea and after thinking about it more, I'm not too keen on the idea. I have to agree that it would tend to eliminate any variety instead of add to it. As a challenge you could choose the weakest of the creatures, but who would do that online against each other. Everyone would pick the strongest on purpose.
That said, this may be an April's Fool joke, but what has me worried is Fabrice didn't come back the very next day and tell us. I'm hoping it's because it's the weekend, but if we don't hear anything on Monday, I'm assuming this is the truth.
sxshopper
04-03-2005, 07:05 AM
Hey MuadDIB!
I heard that system requierements will be EXTREMELY HIGH!!! can you confirm or deny this information?! please...
e.g. P4 2,4 Ghz!!!!!
Blackjack_77
04-03-2005, 07:08 AM
If you don't have at least a P4 2.4 ghz or the equivalent anymore, you really need to upgrade anyway. I suspect from previous experience that RAM will be more of an issue, though.
Magic_stick
04-03-2005, 07:20 AM
Yeah thx for the answer!!
Good to know
Angelspit
04-03-2005, 07:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackjack_77:
If you don't have at least a P4 2.4 ghz or the equivalent anymore, you really need to upgrade anyway. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A slower CPU with a decent video card manages to run even Half Life 2. I don't see why you would need a 3 Ghz CPU for a strategy game.
Edit: forget about what I just said. I read about the minimum requirements on the Russian site... ****!
Sikon_
04-03-2005, 10:17 AM
Angelspit
The system requirements on forums.ag.ru are most likely an AF joke too.
ShPhoenix
04-03-2005, 10:25 AM
You guys need to remember that in another year when the game finally does come out, 2.4GHz is going to be nothing in terms of CPU power.
urbanmonk
04-03-2005, 04:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShPhoenix:
You guys need to remember that in another year when the game finally does come out, 2.4GHz is going to be nothing in terms of CPU power. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe so, but not everyone can afford the latest and the greatest, let alone a new puter.
khabal
04-04-2005, 02:52 AM
um... I really like this "af" system http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think itâ´s the natural evolution for this amazing saga, since now a days most people seem to like a new Heroes 3 clone instead of a brand new game.
It could be a very good idea and, even if not, it coundnâ´t be worse than Heroes IV hehehe.
JegInBuci
04-05-2005, 11:53 PM
Hi, it's proly not the palce to post but since fabrice read it here it goes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Can we count the **** grid ? I think that was the main problem with h4. PPl are used to the chess system in which u can make a nice fight strategy.