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DocSEAL
11-06-2004, 09:18 PM
Firefox 1.0PR is now available for download:

New in Firefox PR

* Live Bookmarks
* Improved FastFind
* Improved Security
* Master Password
* Software Update
* Smaller Download

Best thing for me is the browswer navigation buttons for the MX series of mice now works http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This was the only thing that stopped me from having it as my default browser. Bye Bye IE. Linkage (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/).

DocSEAL
11-06-2004, 09:18 PM
Firefox 1.0PR is now available for download:

New in Firefox PR

* Live Bookmarks
* Improved FastFind
* Improved Security
* Master Password
* Software Update
* Smaller Download

Best thing for me is the browswer navigation buttons for the MX series of mice now works http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This was the only thing that stopped me from having it as my default browser. Bye Bye IE. Linkage (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/).

Haldrix
11-07-2004, 04:13 PM
wait until 9th november the 1.0 release...

Nirvelli
11-07-2004, 04:52 PM
1.0PR has been out for a long time, final 1.0 is out on Nov. 9 (wow coincidence lol)

XTENCILATE
11-07-2004, 04:52 PM
or, get Opera, which is recomended by 12 governments security groups, including the US and germany.

and, is much more advanced, integraed, and is not open source, making security holes smaller.

Nirvelli
11-07-2004, 05:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by XTENCILATE:
...not open source, making security holes smaller. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL thanks for the laugh. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Avsownstanley
11-07-2004, 08:12 PM
Hehe no kidding. Ill stick with firefox.

XTENCILATE
11-07-2004, 10:09 PM
you do that. and why dont we all go back to using dos while your at it.

Grimphyre
11-08-2004, 02:44 AM
If US government recommends something you shouldn't even bother.

If they say opera is 'secure' it means they can hack it, crack it an sniff you traffic it in 5 seconds.

And closed source doesn't make anything more secure.

XTENCILATE
11-08-2004, 02:54 AM
1) Doc, the title "The World's Fastest Browser" actually goes to opera. Try finding that claim on FireFoxes site.... No, not there? Exactly. Still dont believe me? Put this in google: "The World's Fastest Browser" What comes up:? OPERA!

2) hmm, sounds like you have been living in your moms basement jumping everytime a boards creaks cause it might be "Big Brother" a little to long. ya, Im sure 12 world Gov. are out to get us all by recomending Opera.

You know, Firefox is more widely used than Opera, making it a larger target for Malware, Spyware all that ****. So go ahead use it. When it turns into a spiraling pool of Malware, I'll be chillin w/ Opera with out a hickup.

-x

Grimphyre
11-08-2004, 09:11 AM
And yes there was weapons of mass destruction in iraq. And cows can fly if US government say so.

johns1234
11-08-2004, 10:35 AM
FireFox is good. However, security in a browser begins with the user, not with the outside
scumware. In all my labs, I have IE6 configured to only allow browsing to approved sites
by using a dummy proxy built in to IE. In addition, only "administrator" can see the
connections page. I allow browsing to any *.edu, any local domain, Microsoft, and selected
Engineering sites that have proven to be hack free. I also maintain a sh-tlist of sites
that I disallow .. AIM, BargainBuddy. Those sites are totally blocked, and so are any
sites that try to snoop through the browser. I collect their ip-addresses and block
much of that domain until they are proven. In addition, if I see a site constantly scanning
us, I refer them to our security people for legal action. Reason I'm telling you all this is
I can clearly demonstrate that PC security can be set up by remote administration on
request of those that need it .. parents in a home with kids who vandalize their systems.
Students in a school who download mp3s, nu-ies, vulgar junk .... I can create local
policies that are specialized to the needs of the supervising user. Any "INTELLIGENT" ISP
can do this, and lock little Billy out of his toys, and secure the family PC so that
others may enjoy it.

DocSEAL
11-08-2004, 08:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by XTENCILATE:
1) Doc, the title "The World's Fastest Browser" actually goes to opera. Try finding that claim on FireFoxes site.... No, not there? Exactly. Still dont believe me? Put this in google: "The World's Fastest Browser" What comes up:? OPERA! -x <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

X, really now...I would've thought you would've stopped wanting to dispute me on these boards, but if you must...I must reply...

Just because an Opera press release and the Opera homepage claim to hold the title, it doesn't mean it's necessarily true. Muhammad Ali once claimed he was the greatest boxer of all time. While most would agree to this it's definetely not the choice of others.

But the fastest browser debate is not a matter of opinion. It can be easily tested with controls. So, here it goes...

Cleared all internet temp files from all the browsers. I put the URL in the address bar and immediately started the stopwatch. I stopped the when the page said "Done" at the bottom. That is the only non-scientific thing I did. I had to eyeball it a tad, but I did my best. (Browsers listed in alphabetical order.)

Page 1: www.microsoft.com (http://www.microsoft.com)

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/firefox.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/IE.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/opera.jpg

Winner: Firefox

Page 2: Halo2 review on cnet.com

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/firefox2.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/IE2.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/opera2.jpg

Winner Opera

Page 3: Ubi forum thread with many images.

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/firefox3.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/IE3.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/opera3.jpg

Winner: Firefox (This is where pipelining benefits as it loads 16 items at once instead of 4.)

Page 4: www.extremeoverclocking.com (http://www.extremeoverclocking.com)

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/firefox4.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/IE4.jpg

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/opera4.jpg

Winner: Firefox

Overall times:

Firefox: 11.81 sec
IE: 20.88
Opera: 18.21

Clear Winner: <span class="ev_code_BROWN">Firefox</span>

2nd place: Opera

3rd place: IE 6 (The also claimed to be fastest browser in the World on Google from 1999. Now, everyone knows there's the slowest.)

Now, this might not hold true for the original config of Firefox, as I modify mine to browse faster using 16 pipelines instead of 4. But this is just my test, on my puter, so I'll go with the results. If any of you would like to pipeline you Firefox follow these steps:

type: about:config ....in the address bar and hit enter. In the filter box, start typing pipelining (you won't make it before it finds all the entries.)

network.http.pipelining - false
network.http.pipelining.firstrequest - false
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests- 4
network.http.proxy.pipelining - false

Double click on each of the first two and change to: true
Double click on the third one and change maxrequests to: 16
Double click the last entry and set to: true

Close Firefox and start again...baddabingbaddaboom...fast(est) browser gets faster...

TheKev78
11-08-2004, 09:12 PM
**** Doc that sped up my Firefox by a bunch. It worked wonders for me. I like firefox cause you can set it to delete cookies when you close browser and history etc. When I used IE6 I had a window washer installed to delete all the junk IE6 picked up.I havent tried Opera..... I might why not I hate IE6. Unfortunatly not all websites accept FireFox but who cares I think I have ran into maybe 2 sites out of 100's I have surfed.

Avsownstanley
11-08-2004, 10:43 PM
the proxy one and the first request one didnt show up in mine....

DocSEAL
11-08-2004, 11:07 PM
I'm not sure what version you're running, but they're all there for the newest one. Even if they all aren't there, you will still get some pipelining and will have a performance increase.

DocSEAL
11-08-2004, 11:29 PM
I downloaded and installed the RC2 version of 1.0 from the ftp site. My back and forward browser navigation buttons stopped working!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

So I did some Google searches (lmao http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif) and found some guy that wrote an entry in his blog about the fix:

It appears as though IE uses alt+left arrow as Back and alt+right as forward for Navigation buttons, so assign them in your Mouseware or SetPoint utility...problem solved:

http://gotfrags.net/images/forward.jpg

XTENCILATE
11-09-2004, 12:49 AM
and, that entirely depends on system config.
opera runs fastet for me, and so thats it. also, i get my pop3 through the same window, along with irc, chat, and a **** ton of other stuff fire fox is lacking.
firefox runs fastest to you great. as for fire fox... i ran searches... found not a single reference to firefox being the fastest browser on earth... so, where exactly did that come from? did the fairies tell it to you? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-09-2004, 02:30 AM
1) All of the features you describe are available through extentions (http://update.mozilla.org/extentions/) and Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/).
2) Although Opera self-proclaims itself as the fastest and blab about it all over the internet, they provide no statistical proof: http://www.opera.com/press/faq/?session=49a24ab4e1ca7371b4cedeed01584e63#tech1
3) Noone said you had to download, install, or even think about Firefox. You're happy with Opera and obviously going to continue using it. But don't heckle this thread with your personal beliefs based on some Google searches. Back your side up with stats and you'll have more credibility.

DocSEAL
11-09-2004, 03:09 AM
Firefox 1.0 final is available for download: Linkage (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/). You may need to do the navigation button fix I described above after installation, but if you have already done the pipelining setttings, they are retained.

XTENCILATE
11-09-2004, 03:39 AM
ya, thats the way to go... seperate apps, and extensions... aka... download, install config, repeat. then tweak to increase speed. you have way to much time on your hands.

oh, and the link youve posted "may" need a fix? lol.

but this is childish. im done.

-x

DocSEAL
11-09-2004, 04:38 AM
So what??? They're updating the extentions page now that final release is out. It shows that they're committed to letting the end user know what is compatible. As for seperate apps...most people run the programs you listed in seperate apps. I use Outlook for email, mIRC for IRC, chat handled by about 4 programs, and Trillian for IM.

As for extention usage, I like the option of tailoring my browser as I see fit.

As for time on my hands...that's like most of the lame a$$e$ in here crying about how 1.2 was so messed up and broke everything. Instead of spending a few minutes or maybe even a couple hours trying to figure out what was going on, they immediately cried wolf and went back to patch 1.1. This only lead to the recall and the community being divided into two patches.

I'm glad you're done. Now something productive can be accomplished.

Shadzy
11-09-2004, 06:06 AM
I use Firefox too.
I started with 1.0PR but upgraded to RC2 in the hops of fixing a small problem (that might endup being a big one).

it appears like it is not compatible with UBB forum codes.
It says i am logged in when i try to "log in" but when i try to post, it says i am not logged in. Everytime i want to post, i have to load up Open Exploit....err I mean Internet Explorer.
Netscape works fine.

I never use IE unles si have to. Everysinc ei got insternet back in 1998, Its always been Netscape for me untill recently when i moved to firefox.
Love the extensions and themes. And the ability to write my own or edit ane existing one (open source rocks).

By the way DocSeal...well done....you know what I mean!

Avsownstanley
11-09-2004, 07:20 AM
You have your settings on your firefox wrong or your bugged cause me and most people that use firefox have no problem with ubbi forums.

Avsownstanley
11-09-2004, 07:46 AM
You guys are aware that there are Moox builds that are made for specific processors, right?


http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/

pakmanis
11-09-2004, 08:41 AM
for those of you who can't get enough of this...

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=221417&mode=threaded

my favorite response.."Firefox because it has a pretty icon."

DocSEAL
11-09-2004, 10:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadzy:
I started with 1.0PR but upgraded to RC2 in the hops of fixing a small problem (that might endup being a big one)... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It appears as though your cookie from Ubi is not being stored properly. Under tools\options\privacy open up your cookies and delete your logon:

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/cookies.jpg

Then, restart Firefox and go to the root of Ubi and login from top blue bar: http://www.ubi.com/US. Remember to check the remember password feature. The click on the forums and you should be good to go. I had this problem a while back (with IE for the record.) Also, there's a specific extention for BB code handling (though not needed for Ubi.) Get version 3.7 here (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/public/pub/mozilla.org/extensions/bbcode/).


@Avsownstanley- VERY nice link. Going to try one when I get home.

@pakmanis- hehehehehehe

Xtropy
11-09-2004, 11:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>X, really now...I would've thought you would've stopped wanting to dispute me on these boards, but if you must...I must reply...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Careful you don't trip over your own ego there Doc. Considering everyone but you is wrong, I'm surprised your perfection couldn't post this in the proper forum. May I ask what this has to do with FarCry? Maybe you should post your advertising on more appropriate boards.

Xtropy

DocSEAL
11-09-2004, 11:53 AM
Actually, I did (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=836109392&m=2701012932), but 99% of users here don't go to Off Topic and this subject is good for most users and certainly more relevant to computer life than someone getting married.

Why do people confuse ego with knowledge? I don't post something unless I know it's true and can back it up with my own facts or links that verify what I say. Not everyone is wrong, but in this case Xtencilate was and now you are. I'm not advertising a dam* thing. I don't make a nickel on every download or link click, Firefox is open source; so there's no money it in for me. I was just informing people of a browser alternative.

Xtropy
11-09-2004, 12:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DocSEAL:
Why do people confuse ego with knowledge? I don't post something unless I know it's true and can back it up with my own facts or links that verify what I say. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So using your rationale Quake is a better game then FarCry because it runs at higher frames per second, right? Your ego comes into play when you force your subjective view as factual. What you think is not objective fact as much as you like to think so. Then again I have better things to do with my life then shave 1 second off a page load. I think you need a girlfriend and a job because you obviously have far too much time on your hands.

Avsownstanley
11-09-2004, 01:18 PM
Ive yet to see anything that disproves anything Doc has said as false, just nonsense.

Shadzy
11-10-2004, 07:03 AM
DocSeal,
Thanks but that didnt help.
HOWEVER, you did put me on the right track.
in firefox, in the same options where you find cookies, you will find saves passwords.
I went in there and cleared the password(s) for ubi.
it appears that when i first loaded firefox i typed my password wrong and saved it. the 2nd tiem i typed the correct one, i saved this too.
thats why one screens said i was already logged in, but another said I wasnt!

Its fixed now.

Also, A freind of mine waws an IE user from day one. i introduced him to netscape. he used it for 2-3 days then wehnt back to IE 6.
i intriduced him to firefox and all the extensions and themes. its been 2 months now. He is still using firefox!!! and everyday he tels me, he goes to the firefox site and downloads new extensions.

How bout that!

CIAO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 09:55 AM
WOOT!!! Glad you got it sorted http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daddy_O_Doh
11-10-2004, 01:07 PM
FF versus Opera eh? Firefox is free, Opera is about $30.00 isn't it? Opera has lots of features but is locked to that feature set. FF has extensions meaning its feature set is constantly changing. Opera is much better than IE, so is FF. I guess I'll take the free one -- lol. And who was that moron who thinks open source is a security risk? LMFAO Buddy, take a look at the security problems with MSWindows versus Linux. I don't mean to laugh but, really, that statement was just off the charts. Thanks for the tip Doc. As usual I know where to go for good information. I've been using it since v0.9 and love it. Just got v1 yesterday and replaced every browser in my network ( a humble ten comps) with it. What's good for Daddy is good for the kiddies!

Daddy_O_Doh
11-10-2004, 01:14 PM
B

XTENCILATE
11-10-2004, 01:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW Xtencilate, Doc has consistently posted actionable intelligence (that's useable information to you) on this forum and many others. His is a voice worth listening to. Your posts, on the other hand, seem to be neither actionable nor intelligent. There's a common expression in the military: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way". I suggest you do the latter since you're incapable of the former. I also suggest you stop by Daddy's Home sometime so I can put a bullet twixt your eyes. Cheers! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


@ Daddy_O_Doh:

1) You make uninteligent assuptions about me based on this thread, a thread that represents nothing more than a difference of opinion.

2) You make a pretty **** good "follower" yourself there...

3) Lets see... Moved out of my parents home and started my first business at 17 with 350$, flipped it, started a small game dev studio, sold it (actually, sold the resources and content), and am now in the early stages of another ramp up. You know what else? I'm 20. What did you do by the time you were 20?

4) I actually know doc, we've always gotten along, and spend a bit of time on comms now and again.

5) "Twixt" um, the word you should have used there is "betwixt". LOL.

-x

XTENCILATE
11-10-2004, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW Xtencilate, Doc has consistently posted actionable intelligence (that's useable information to you) on this forum and many others. His is a voice worth listening to. Your posts, on the other hand, seem to be neither actionable nor intelligent. There's a common expression in the military: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way". I suggest you do the latter since you're incapable of the former. I also suggest you stop by Daddy's Home sometime so I can put a bullet twixt your eyes. Cheers! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why did you take it down? Feeling stupid?

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 02:30 PM
@Daddy- 1) Thanks for the compliment. 2) Threatening a life over a dispute about web browsers borders on insane.

Even though X and I have gone at it a couple times on this forum, I still consider him a friend and think highly of his contributions to the FC community with his map making abilities. He is considering making it a career and I wish him the best. The bickering we have here has nothing to do with what I think of him as person.

@X- On that note- <span class="ev_code_BROWN">Firefox DOMINATES</span> <span class="ev_code_RED">Opera</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif
Talk to ya soon on Vent...pce

XTENCILATE
11-10-2004, 03:12 PM
lol. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif gotta love it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
now that i think about it, weve battled this out on comms to huh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 03:19 PM
mmm...I believe so...and you lost then too!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 03:46 PM
In fact...had to change my sig just to honor this thread...

Darrick932
11-10-2004, 04:12 PM
hey xtropy i don't see anything wrong with giving advice or helping others, i don't think Doc comes across as a know it all, but i think he knows his <span class="ev_code_PINK">stuff</span>. I have learned alot stuff just from reading his post. if i had the money and time i would definetely want him to build me a computer, Doc's cool, sometimes a little grouchy, I've got him mad at me before. But if i need help i would ask him or Mad Murdock. There the brains in this forum I think.

<span class="ev_code_PINK">* Please do not circumvent the language filter *</span>

Doctor_Feelgood
11-10-2004, 04:48 PM
Doc helped me the other night. He went out of his way when he didn't have to. He does know his stuff.

XTENCILATE
11-10-2004, 04:55 PM
lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 05:03 PM
@Darrick and Feelgood- That's funny. Getting support from a two guys, one you don't remember being mad at and the other you have no clue who it is; but thanks to you both.

@M_M---- hmm...sounds like we need to have a brains duel... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Daddy_O_Doh
11-10-2004, 06:33 PM
Why did you take it down? Feeling stupid?[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's why I took it down. It was pretty stupid. I went back and reviewed all of your posts on this forum and felt pretty dumb. You have my apologies. DOC--no life threatening here. Daddy's Home is my server.

DocSEAL
11-10-2004, 06:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daddy_O_Doh:
DOC--no life threatening here. Daddy's Home is my server. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh good! I don't play MP much any more, so didn't recognize.

Daddy_O_Doh
11-10-2004, 07:10 PM
As for what I've done in life; do I have to limit myself to what I did before twenty? Since I'm more than twice your age it's a bit hard to remember that far back but here goes.

1.) Had tea with Bedouin tribesmen in the Arabian Desert.
2.) Launched air strikes against Libya. (I think that was the year after you were born.)
3.) Set up comm center in (well never mind where) and talked a brit tornado home who had lost his instrumentation.
4.) Shot marksman with small arms.
5.) Got gassed, didn't like it, and learned to use my mask properly.
6.) Generally, killed things and blew stuff up.

As for after twenty or so --- I have two degrees, one in Avionic systems and the other in computer science with minors in history and English (btw twixt is eggxacatacally the word I was looking for. The forums aren't really a place to post dissertations are they?). Trying to post all of my nefarious adventures here would be a bit time consuming but for now I am a writer/editor for an online military satellite learning system. I also code a bit for them. Cheers.

XTENCILATE
11-10-2004, 07:54 PM
Disertations are fun! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif all good then eh?
My appolgies back at you...

Cheers eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-x

Darrick932
11-10-2004, 08:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DocSEAL:
@Darrick and Feelgood- That's funny. Getting support from a two guys, one you don't remember being mad at and the other you have no clue who it is; but thanks to you both.

@M_M---- hmm...sounds like we need to have a brains duel... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


you'll remember me if you check my recent post, been a little while but it was when i was joking about your vids you posted. I think you took what i said as an insult, but i didn't mean it that way. Which reminds me like the graphics in those vids, blows mine away.

SirLuthor
11-11-2004, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>or, get Opera, which is recomended by 12 governments security groups, including the US and germany.

and, is much more advanced, integraed, and is not open source, making security holes smaller. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Contrary to prior belief, being closed source does not tend to make things more secure, all it does if give the average joe AOLer the illusion that it is more secure. With open-source software, there are more people looking at the code, more minds working on finding bugs in it, more then you could ever get with a closed-source dev team, IMO. Even though there will always be a small amount of people that exploit open-source software, there are far more who exploit closed-source software just as easily, and the bugs in that kind of thing generally take longer to fix.

Just my 2c

DocSEAL
11-11-2004, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darrick932:
you'll remember me if you check my recent post, been a little while but it was when i was joking about your vids you posted. I think you took what i said as an insult, but i didn't mean it that way. Which reminds me like the graphics in those vids, blows mine away. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found the post...shows you how long I hold a grudge...those original vids were made with an x800xtPE...hope you're following my HDR thread for even better visual stuff...

phalanx9mm
11-11-2004, 11:33 AM
And, this is one of the characteristics that I really enjoy about you, Doc-- http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

You are SO thourough, and genuinely interested in the people part of this, that you go to (what many would feel are) great lengths in order to research things and verify before talking about them.

Wish there were more who did. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Peace--

Avsownstanley
11-11-2004, 11:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by XTENCILATE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW Xtencilate, Doc has consistently posted actionable intelligence (that's useable information to you) on this forum and many others. His is a voice worth listening to. Your posts, on the other hand, seem to be neither actionable nor intelligent. There's a common expression in the military: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way". I suggest you do the latter since you're incapable of the former. I also suggest you stop by Daddy's Home sometime so I can put a bullet twixt your eyes. Cheers! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


@ Daddy_O_Doh:

1) You make uninteligent assuptions about me based on this thread, a thread that represents nothing more than a difference of opinion.

2) You make a pretty **** good "follower" yourself there...

3) Lets see... Moved out of my parents home and started my first business at 17 with 350$, flipped it, started a small game dev studio, sold it (actually, sold the resources and content), and am now in the early stages of another ramp up. You know what else? I'm 20. What did you do by the time you were 20?

4) I actually know doc, we've always gotten along, and spend a bit of time on comms now and again.

5) "Twixt" um, the word you should have used there is "betwixt". LOL.

-x <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And Im the next president of the United States. Its really easy to make all kinds of outrageous claims on the internet. Sorry, I aint buying none of that. Dont think anyone else is either.

phalanx9mm
11-11-2004, 01:39 PM
@Daddy_O_Doh:

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">eggxacatacally???</span>

Whoa there, man!
You seem fairly literate, and I am not doubting your credentials, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt and actually went to try and qualify this word of yours.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

It occurs to me now, that the intended effect you had in mind for X, was indeed bounced off my forehead with tremendous results!
(read: I fell for it, hook, line, and sinker)


Touche' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
And well done. That doesn't happen too often...

Unless what you MEANT to say was: (exe‚∑geti‚∑cal‚∑ly adv.) in which case, you ought to go back to wherever you got your Minor in English, and have a little chat with that Professor...

Cheers-- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

bambooben
11-11-2004, 02:08 PM
Just downloaded Firefox, and man it is so much faster than AOL 9.0 for broadband. I have a question though. How do I get my bookmarks off AOL and onto Firefox so I can dump AOL. Thanks for not mooning me for not posting in the tech help of random forums, but this thread seems appro.

XTENCILATE
11-11-2004, 02:34 PM
1) Open source more or less secure than closed source? There is no definative on that. Its all in your mind. Or mine, or whoevers, but NO ONE has proved it to be one way or the other.

2) @Avsownstanley: I don't care if you believe me or not.

3) @Phalanx9mm: Your post are always worth reading! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

4) @bambooben: You had AOL? Ouch. Ya, firefox owns AOL. You'll love it.

5) @Doc: You jumped on comms last night, but dissapeared? What happened?


-x

Darrick932
11-11-2004, 03:39 PM
I like the sbc yahoo browser i got when i got the dsl package from them. I never use internet explorer or msn browser. I think you can only use this browser with yahoo dsl. Its quick and i never had problems yet, knock on wood.

DocSEAL
11-11-2004, 05:38 PM
@bambooben- There's a simple fix for this:

1) Get the AOL bookmark importer from here (http://download.tucows.com/perl/window95.html?dltarget=download&Target=/adnload/342879_130253.html). It will import your bookmarks into both IE and Netscape.

2) In Firefox, hit File\Import and you will now see prompts to import your IE favorites http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

@X- I was on your BSR's Vent and my TS with my girlfriend simultaneously...no offense, but you see who got priority http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I think this is the only thread where I'm going to keep posting my new sig...

lucifersmentor
11-11-2004, 05:53 PM
Just to contribute to the awesomeness of this thread;

IE6 []D\/\/|\|$!!!!!111!!11shiftone!!111onneee1!!!111!!111shi foneeene1!onene!!!!

Seriously, like I give a cr@p (I really hate that 'naughty' word filter) about what browser I use to surf the web. I'm smart enough to avoid iffy websites, suspicous downloads, and questionable links. Firefox has bugs, IE has bugs, Opera has bugs, I have bugs, you have bugs, that person over there might have bugs... So just pick a browser and surf away. You're gonna get screwed either way, so why not make it worthwhile?

XTENCILATE
11-11-2004, 06:10 PM
Thats your right to do. Just dont <span class="ev_code_PINK">complain</span> to me when your pc is full of malware.

-x

<span class="ev_code_PINK">* Please do not circumvent the language filter *</span>

lucifersmentor
11-11-2004, 06:16 PM
It isn't and never will be. =)

I get defensive at the sheer suggestion that I should change browsers (or even operating systems for that matter) because I supposedly lack enough brain power to keep my computer free of viruses, malware, spyware, worms, trojans, etc. Where does anyone get the audacity to imply that I'm too inept to keep my computer in good working order?

Either way, like I said, I could give a cr@p less.

Surf away my kiddies! Catch those worms and help spread spam! It is your duty as a internet user. You accepted the responsiblity and consequences the moment you connected to the internet. hhahaha

^^^everything in that post is all in good fun =)

Darrick932
11-11-2004, 06:30 PM
use spybot 1.3 and adware se personal editon there all free and work great. no problems ever. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XTENCILATE
11-11-2004, 06:49 PM
It had nothing to do with your brain power, but IE is a nesting ground for those things, and can be alive and well on your system while you know nothing about it.

-x

phalanx9mm
11-11-2004, 06:51 PM
Anyone know how to change the default Mail Client from Outlook to Netscape in FireFox??
Or from Outlook to ANYTHING else, for that matter?
The OPTIONS menu is not altogether, how do we say, what about ALL ENCOMPASSING? Yeah, that works.

I would even settle for the ability to place a link button to Netscape Mail on the bookmarks bar at the top of the interface...

Anyone got an idea on this?

Thanks in advance--http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

lucifersmentor
11-11-2004, 07:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by XTENCILATE:
It had nothing to do with your brain power, but IE is a nesting ground for those things, and can be alive and well on your system while you know nothing about it.

-x <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. I was just playing devil's advocate. Someone's gotta argue the other side. hahaha

XTENCILATE
11-11-2004, 07:13 PM
lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-11-2004, 08:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phalanx9mm:
Anyone know how to change the default Mail Client from Outlook to Netscape in FireFox??
Or from Outlook to ANYTHING else, for that matter?
The OPTIONS menu is not altogether, how do we say, what about ALL ENCOMPASSING? Yeah, that works.

I would even settle for the ability to place a link button to Netscape Mail on the bookmarks bar at the top of the interface... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your default email program has nothing to do with Firefox. That is a setting in your OS. Fastest way to change it is to go in IE...Tools\Options\Programs tab and change under email.

As for adding toolbar icons...Get this (http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#tbx) extention. It has a mail icon along with many others.

Molson311
11-11-2004, 08:25 PM
Firefox fans all seem to be huge fanatics.

phalanx9mm
11-11-2004, 10:35 PM
@Doc:
Thanks matehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Just what the patient ordered! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

@Molson311:
I'm certainly on the way, don'tcha knowhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
And its no surprise, at least for me, just because MS/ IE have been the corner on the market for so long, not to mention how downright PUSHY and INVASIVE they are, Firefox is just a soothing and refreshing change from the norm.

I'll tell ya something else:
Its just a matter of time before Linux/Red Hat does the same thing to Windows that Firefox is doing to IE.
Been a long time in the making, but as soon as people get a taste of what a better, more user-friendly OS can be like, as well as software companies getting on the Linux bandwagon for compatability, you just watch...
The days of good ol' Bill Gates and his greenhouse full of broken windows are going to hit the dumpster so fast, he won't know whether to $#!t or wind his Rolex!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Firefox is just the beginning.

Cheers--

XTENCILATE
11-11-2004, 10:59 PM
Um, Rolex watches use a perpetual motion system, or atleast i thought they did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif j/k

Ah, your like breath of fresh air through those broken windows phalanax.

-x

Daddy_O_Doh
11-11-2004, 11:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phalanx9mm:
@Daddy_O_Doh:

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">__eggxacatacally???__</span>

Whoa there, man!
You seem fairly literate, and I am not doubting your credentials, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt and actually went to try and qualify this word of yours.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

It occurs to me now, that the intended effect you had in mind for X, was indeed bounced off my forehead with tremendous results!
(read: I fell for it, hook, line, and sinker)


Touche' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
And well done. That doesn't happen too often...

Unless what you MEANT to say was: (exe‚∑geti‚∑cal‚∑ly adv.) in which case, you ought to go back to wherever you got your Minor in English, and have a little chat with that Professor...

Cheers-- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, you actually looked eggxacatacally up? Wow. Yes I do have a minor in English. I specialized in fonetix.

phalanx9mm
11-11-2004, 11:50 PM
@X:
Its funny you should bring that up, 'cause when I wrote it, I first had put it down as, "...or wind his watch!!"
But then I thought that a dude like Gates, who has made more money in a month than I will likely see in my entire lifetime, he would probably be sportin' a Rolex-- which DOES employ the perpetual motion winding element, so Cheers on that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
And, I'm glad you are breathin' from the same tank of air too, cause the one we have been using for the past 8-10 years is gettin' mighty stale!

p.s. they sure could use your help over in the thread at the Mod/Map forum regarding issues of whether to use a stock map... (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=273109392&m=3571058832)

@Daddy_O_Doh:

You believe that?!?
It was barely enough of a "just might be a real word" to make me check you on it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Clevah bastid, youz wyze gye!

Peace--

What did you think of that Bedouin tea, BTW?

Daddy_O_Doh
11-12-2004, 12:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phalanx9mm:
What did you think of that Bedouin tea, BTW? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's incredibly sweet. Almost like hot sugar water. But I nodded and smiled like I was being served Earl Grey by Elizabeth in Windsor castle.

XTENCILATE
11-12-2004, 12:10 AM
Thanks for sending me thier way, I posted a fool proof explanation. Maybe? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-x

phalanx9mm
11-12-2004, 02:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daddy_O_Doh:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phalanx9mm:
What did you think of that Bedouin tea, BTW? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's incredibly sweet. Almost like hot sugar water. But I nodded and smiled like I was being served Earl Grey by Elizabeth in Windsor castle. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
As would be the proper and expected etiquette
in a delicately balanced situation...
Least it didn't taste like bilge water, or JP-4!

@X:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Of that I had no doubt. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

G'nite, gents--

Rowdy67
11-12-2004, 02:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Molson311:
Firefox fans all seem to be huge fanatics. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Firefox is great-that's why people like it. As far as a Linux-based OS system goes, Linspire is the way to go. It is now showing up in Fry's preloaded as well as preloaded on Seagate Hard Drives. Michael Robertson knows what he's doing.

DocSEAL
11-18-2004, 12:21 AM
In my never-ending quest for computer speed and ideal configurations, I post what I have done with Firefox since installing:

FF has some built in delays when you're surfing. I say...keep going mofo. Type about:config in the address bar and in the filter box put delay. Change the settings to:

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/delay.jpg

As far as my interface goes...I added a theme and a few extentions for convenience:

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/ffbar.jpg

Cool media player extention:

http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/ffsys.jpg

My current list of extentions:
http://gotfrags.net/images/browsers/ffext.jpg

If you've got something good...please share http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif By the way, X, GET Firefox!!!L ink below!

XTENCILATE
11-20-2004, 03:12 AM
OPERA OWNS FIFEFOX

The_One34
11-20-2004, 04:45 AM
You could just get Maxthon..great browser

XTENCILATE
11-20-2004, 04:48 AM
opera

Bug-Dude
11-20-2004, 06:09 AM
im trying to beat x for spams

XTENCILATE
11-20-2004, 02:15 PM
lol

Shadzy
11-20-2004, 06:26 PM
Hey DocSeal,
Nice Theme! (Noia 2.1?)

I use the same one with some of the similar extensions.
However, instead of using a toolbar dedicated to bookmarks, I instead created a folder called (Quickmarks). If I click this folder, it drops down with all my quick links. Its just one extra click but it looks less cluttered http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
check it out here:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~vijay/stuff/speed.jpg

I really hope oneday Microsoft stops integrating I.E into the operating system. A hole in the browser ends up being a hole in your system.

CIAO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DocSEAL
11-20-2004, 11:04 PM
Theme: Very close...Noia 2.0 extreme: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/4266778/

Toolbar: I use both bookmarks and a folder on the bar. As you can see from the screenshot, there's a folder there called Forum Favorites that has about 10 Ubi thread links in it.

As far as browser integration...M$ will keep doing it till the courts stop them and M$ has too much $ for that to happen.

XTENCILATE
11-21-2004, 10:55 AM
(cough) opera

XTENCILATE
11-21-2004, 10:55 AM
just like to drive you nuts DOC

Shadzy
11-21-2004, 06:13 PM
2.0 is what i meant doc. Not sure how i typed 2.1 :P

I was running on a skin thats similar rto netscape then i discovered noia. Been using it since. not bad at all.
Also i am using Agent switcher. But this forum seems to kill any unknown browsers. Have you tried agent switcher? You an get your browser to reeport its using Mac OS instead of windows http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CIAO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

kimi_
11-22-2004, 05:40 PM
Geebus Doc. Dude, there's like no point in me even moving this thread is there? It's 5 pages long. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

BTW I like the feature in Opera that will save your place in whatever websites you have open when you close the browser. However, ever since I updated my Java all the pics don't show up in Opera, and I'm back to using IE. Been too busy/lazy to fix Opera or d/l Mozilla. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif