Somthing for when we wait.

[frog7]

Any you guys played Half-life2..i just finished it and i got to say ,ithink it was Fantastic.the End was awsome....it will be a long time before we get another FPS like that one..dont get me wrong iv got Doom3 as well and thats good but not as good as HL2...one more thing i think HL2 was to short or it was because it was so great it seemd short...

[frog7]

Any you guys played Half-life2..i just finished it and i got to say ,ithink it was Fantastic.the End was awsome....it will be a long time before we get another FPS like that one..dont get me wrong iv got Doom3 as well and thats good but not as good as HL2...one more thing i think HL2 was to short or it was because it was so great it seemd short...

[U-551 Kapitan]

I heard great things from that game and its predessor. I wouldn't play it cos I don't like it when I'm scared ****less. But it's nice to know there's a fellow FPSer on this forum.

[necrobaron]

I'm not really into FPSs that much(though I love H&D2), but I heard so many good things about HL2 I broke down and bought it. I haven't finished it but so far it's been pretty good.

[Beeryus]

I bought Half-Life 1, and it was good for what it was, but in the end it's just an arcade shooter. You just shoot stuff really fast until you win. There is little strategy to it because you're following a linear mission structure, and there are no tactics because you're basically just expected to kill anything that moves. I'm bored with games that just reward fast reflexes, and there have been far too many of them recently. SH3 is like an answer to a prayer, and hopefully it will give me a bit more to think about than whether I can shoot 6 monsters in 5 seconds.

[U-551 Kapitan]

But you also explore, and the missions didn't focus around killing all the baddies, instead, you had to complete objectives. An arcade shooter would be one of those games where you get a gun and you shoot anything that moves while the computer moves for you, like Die Hard Trilogy 1 & 2 (Don't ask me about the reasons for a trilogy 2, because I know it doesn't make any numerical sense).

[Beeryus]

There are games where the computer moves for you??? Hehe, this arcade game nonsense is sillier than I had imagined. Are there games where the computer both moves AND shoots for you?

[U-551 Kapitan]

yeh, but die hard trilogy is for PS1, not PC as I know it. Now that is the mother of all arcade shooters.

[SubSaint]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Beeryus:
... You just shoot stuff really fast until you win. ... and there are no tactics because you're basically just expected to kill anything that moves. I'm bored with games that just reward fast reflexes, and there have been far too many of them recently. SH3 is like an answer to a prayer, and hopefully it will give me a bit more to think about than whether I can shoot 6 monsters in 5 seconds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, If you havent played yet i strongly recommend "Thief 3 : Deadly Shadows" . If you can find first and second titles also rock. Great scenario, cool charachter. My all time favorite FPS games are Call Of Duty and Vietcong. I really find them immersive and authentic. I dont know why but half-life or doom style games never attract me too.

[U-551 Kapitan]

Call of Duty is one of the best FPSs I have ever played. I'm a veteran of the MoH series ( remember the very day I bought the very first MoH game, back when it wasn't so famous) and so WW2 FPSs appeal greatly to me. You looking forward to Brothers in Arms? That looks set to surpass CoD by miles.
Vietcong is also a great game. I was debating whether or not to buy it after playing the demo, but my computer graphics weren't exactly supported at the time so I decided against it. I could play it now, but atm I'm after Men of Valour for xbox. Better be one of my Christmas prezzies or ppl are gonna die.

[SubSaint]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by U-551 Kapitan:
Vietcong is also a great game. I was debating whether or not to buy it after playing the demo, but my computer graphics weren't exactly supported at the time so I decided against it. I could play it now, but atm I'm after Men of Valour for xbox. Better be one of my Christmas prezzies or ppl are gonna die. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If i were you i would prefer Vietcong rather than Men of Valor. It is widely spoken that it is seriously buggy with average graphics. Only positive thing i have heard about it was its fantastic musics.

At the time when Vietcong came out i couldnt enjoy it due to insufficient system resources. 1 week ago my pc went through serious upgrade and now it is working like a dream. I can max all details from in game menu. My system ; Abit IS7-E2 mobo , 512*2 Twinmos CL2.5 ddr400 ram, Saphire Radeon 9600XT, 160GB SATA Seagate and P4 3.0 Ghz Prescott CPU. I think you have more or less the same. One thing about Vietcong is it is more cpu dependant than any other game i have ever known.

In short : Get Vietcong ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

And yes i am looking forward to Brothers in Arms. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Jose.MaC]

Anyone ever meet Cate Archer?

[Sockeye45]

Cate Archer!!! Groovy, baby, groovy

[SailorSteve]

Cate Archer? Never heard of her. But then, no one lives forever.

[Capt.LoneRanger]

With most games on the market it's like those many remixes of music from the 80s. They were good when they were first on the market, most remixes trying to raise money from the former success are nothing but stinking zombies, if we keep the "raise"-expression.

Same is for most games.

CoD, BF (V), and most other games are merely new missions on an older engine (CoD = 100% MOHAA = 100% Q3).

I'm sorry, but I cannot take a game serious, where you can jump out of the 3.story of a house, fire a heavy automatic weapon (BAR) in full-auto-mode and hit a person half the level away and on landing get drawn 10pts from your health.

I also don't see any point in buying a tech-demo, that is made to sell it for other games. After 10 minutes of Doom3, you've seen everything Doom3 can deliver. HL2 has some nice effects, too, but the graphics, the gameplay and the praised AI is equal to that in HL1.
BF1942 and BF-V? You can't take them seriously.

If I want to play action games, I do it honestly, by playing UT2004. Clean hard action, without any pitty attempt to make it look real, yet, physics, netcode, AI and graphics are superior to most other games out there.

If I want to play something more "real", I go for AmericasArmy. The only game where people seem to care about balance and are against cheaters. There's no other game on the market, that is equally supported and taken care for. No basecampers, no eyecandy to blind you, just the pure game and it's for free.

[U-551 Kapitan]

In CoD, if you jump out of a 3 storey house, your dead straight away. 1 storey, you get about 25% of your health taken off. And in most cases, you don't die by leaping out of a 1 storey building, just break a leg or something (although I'm sure after that you can't run ahead and kill some more germans). But I really wish I could hit a guy with a BAR on full auto mode half the level away, that would be sweet. Problem is the ****ed recoil. Curse it. But I agree with BF, just too unrealistic.

[Messervy]

There is nothing wrong with the game. It is the way it is being played. I personaly like "rifles only" and Huertgen map.
Very lifelike experience.

[Beeryus]

I just bought Full Spectrum Warrior and the first odd thing I noticed was that the enemy soldiers were carrying around thousands of magazines. I could be sitting behind cover and some idiot AI tango is firing off magazine after magazine on full auto, and it never stops. I'm like "where's the mountain of magazines that he's using?"

I always notice this stuff in arcade games and I just can't get past it. I haven't played FSW since that day.

[U-551 Kapitan]

FSW is a good game, makes you think in military tactics, which you juct pick up unknowingly. I never noticed the neverending mags, although thinking about it I don't think they stopped firing once I spotted them. I just fired on them or threw a grenade until they were out of my path. The endings averagely good, but the cut scene is brilliant.

[SOF_Timber]

I'm playing HL2 (Anticitizen one mission)now and can also say how good the game is. Don't pass on this one...no doubt "Game of the Year".

I had a lot of fun with Doom 3 shooting the monsters. The game is what it is...Doom. Waiting on the expansion.

Love the co-op in the Hidden & Dangerous 2 expansion "Sabre Squadron" but still haven't played the single player game yet. One of these days I'll do the H&D2 SP games. I'm just too lazy to take the time to learn. Doom & Half-Life (plus building a new computer) took my limited time away.

Have the "NOLF" games but somehow they are here sitting on the shelf...only played a few missions in NOLF2. Seemed like a silly kind of game if I remember right.

Now we get to some of my favorite games ...Vietcong/Fist Alpha & Raven Shield/Athena Sword. HL2 & Doom3 are excellent games and lots of fun but only VC & RvS keep me coming back for more. The co-op with user-made maps allows the game to stay alive. The single player games were first class and the multi player better yet. The games are getting a little old now and lost in the shuffle (Joint Operations takes the lead now) with my gaming buddies but I drop everything when someone suggests RvS or VC. Yup...great games them two.

And, of course, the single player "Aliens vs Predator 2" is my all time favorite game of all. How I loved this game but sadly no co-op. The Marine missions were classic...

[U-551 Kapitan]

atm I can't decide which has better multiplayer, CoD or MoHAA. I always been into WWII FPS's which I think I've already said somewhere, and these two are great. BF1942 as I say was too unrealistic (so a guy can jump out of a plane and start driving a tank before going onto steering a ship?!)and its a bit slow on my comp. But can you get subs on BF? I'm sure I heard that somewhere but I never seen one yet. RTCW is always a good laugh, but obviously not realistic. I loved that game, had some good times on it, but it pales in comparision to CoD + MoH.
I played a demo of UT2004 and I found that quite interesting, but it's not really my field. Call of Duty and Medal of Honor all the way!

[TASKFORCE1x1]

In battlefield 1942 you can have american subs and Jap subs in the Midway map. There was another map also but I forgot.

[CrazyDyck]

Hey all, just reading the forums the night before Christmas (can't play any gun-related games cause my 8 year old insists on stayin up so he can ask Santa a question! lol) and wanted to add my 2 cents on FPS.

To start, I've played lots of FPS (starting with the first DOOM Shareware) and I seem to remember thinking that each new standard of game that comes out - I think wow, this really took it to the next level. The original doom was amazing - though the graphics were quite blocky, but I frequently had the **** scared out of me. Fast forward to Half Life - and it set the standard for having an actual storyline, whereas previous games for the most part were run-and-guns to kill the big bosses. CoD brought its own level of imersiveness with new AI character behaviour and comraderie, not to mention graphics and sounds, but I felt I was on a rail. If I die, the motions were the same, next attempt meant having to shoot from the same foxhole, run to next cover - nothing really changed each time. One game that really gave you the feeling of open reality was Operation Flashpoint. I found it truly difficult, not only because the damage modelling was realistic (single bullet to the chest and down you go, to crawl only so far until the next bullet finishes you off), but you could literally take any possible route or choice throughout the game, and there were about 4 different enemy AI reconfigurations so having to restart 4 times, each was different(I learned this thinking "ok, they came from that building corner - I'll go this way", only to face a troop truck unloading men that wasn't there in the last attempt!) - truly realistic work. I enjoyed each new game because the audio and visual always improved, and lately they've become more interactive. HL2 I like because, although it is still like a rail, you can pick up a can of soda that drops out of a machine after you press its button, go throw it at a combine soldier's head, and he'll whack you back with his baton. Had me laughing on the floor in tears when this happened. Doom 3 I liked for the graphics again, but was very disappointed with the gameplay. I didn't feel the enemy creatures behaved with realistic "ragdoll" physics when dealt with ( kind of just dropped, whereas HL2 bodies behave otherwise) and the environment had minimal interactivity.

As gaming progresses, there are those that set benchmarks and the dozen or so to follow that copy them. I enjoy the better of the crop - I get maybe 3 of every 30 that come out - but I'll try their demos if they have one. And simulation games like Lock-On, IL-2:FB, Silent Hunter 2 (and waiting for 3), Nascar Racing 2003 Season (all of these which I have and consider the best of their genre), gives you the feeling of being there, and doing it. Graphics and Audio improvements, not to mention physics and play provide for that realism. Unless there's an alien invasion, its not real likely I'll get to fire off a Desert Eagle, MP-5 or M249 - and the best of the FPS's will at least give me a glimmer of that (realistic) feeling.

One final thing I'd like to point out is that I don't get into buying "more of the same" - case in point - Pacific Fighters. Sure its a new theatre and aircraft, but graphics are the same, gameplay the same and so on, nothing's really stands out being "different". SH3 uses a new graphics engine that brings out more realism so I'm interested (actually sold my SH2 at our last garage sale in anticipation - and went into bad withdrawl symptoms!) in this latest soon-to-be release.

Sorry for being long winded on this (probably wandered around in my train of thought too - its been 18 years since high school have having to keep to a proper focus on topic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif - plus my kid keeps asking when Santa's coming, making me lose what train of thought I did have!), but thanks for reading.

Crazy****

[SubSaint]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SOF_Timber:
And, of course, the single player "Aliens vs Predator 2" is my all time favorite game of all. How I loved this game but sadly no co-op. The Marine missions were classic... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice to see an AVP2 fan here. Me and my friends still play that game once in a while , it is indeed a classic. I don't know whether you are familiar with AVP2 mods or not but since you sound a little bit sad due to lack of co-op ability in the game you HAVE TO check this link :

http://www.planetavp.com/mods/modotw/x-coop/

If you find it helpful and if you enjoy it you'll buy me a beer , ok ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[Dominicrigg]

My favourites were the medal of honour games. I just loved them, i just got call of duty this christmas and must say im not really wowed by it. I mean there are no missions as shocking as the attack on omaha beach in medal of honour. But i have not got that far yet. Saying that i love the sound of the guns and the way they are harder to fire moving (pretty much miss all the time in other words) and how they become innacurate when fired in long bursts (i would love to know how that guy jumps out of buildings and hits things long distances with a bren in full auto...

If you want realistic the game i would recommend would be Raven shield 3.

This game has death from one or two hits (or at the least you are out of the battle). You can use your squad to open doors and clear rooms ect. Very good. Also has something which i have been waiting for a long time, the clips stay as empty as they should. So if you have 3 clips and fire 10 rounds from the first then swap it out and fire 18 from the second and load the 3rd. If they are 20 shot clips when you load back the other clips you will have only 10 shots and 2 shots respectively. So no full clips every time you reload. Very cool touch. Also concussion effects and nerve gas are nice touches. If you are really into it you can even prepare your own mission plan, but thats a bit far for my liking...

[Dominicrigg]

ps as for halflife its like my last girlfriend...

beautiful with lots of cool tricks but too short...

[U-551 Kapitan]

Once you get onto the Russian missions, THEN you'll be amazed. You see all the destruction from the ?Volga? River and then you get into a boat before going onto that scene from Enemy at the Gates. I won't spoil it all, but I actually found myself chuckling with delight at that level as I dodged in and out of cover, bullets whizzing by me. The level wasn't as huge as Omaha was (I kept walking in that level and I never came across an invisible wall), since you've got buildings cutting you off, but it still had the shock of Omaha, only this time the shock was unexpected (everyone knew about Omaha from all the hype)