WOW , Now i'm worried..

[nevermindspy]

Just finished reading about the inferno units ,And what i noticed the most was both
lvl 7 units has the same skill!!
Angel ressurects cavaliers(lvl 6) and the devil "call for Pit Lord reinforcements straight from inferno. "

I think that is simply a disaster ,this can suggest something truly horrible that all the lvl 7 units has the same skill!!

Or that each 2 opposite level 7's has the same skill or maybe only those two level 7 has the same skill, either way its bad however you look at it.

I think 2 level 7's with same skill(or more) is dull,boring and simply lack of imagination .

Part of the beauty of heroes is the veriaty and uniqe abilities of each creature.

I demand ubisoft/nival to change that immediatly!

[znork]

you have smal point, but you are in no postion to demand.

[Zamolxis108]

Calm down and read twice, and also between the lines. Devils cannot resurrect, but summon, and only Pit Lords, while Angels can resurrect "champions that died on the battlefield", but as we've seen in the video, I think that means any creature in the army. And even if they say Devils & Angels, I think they're actually talking only about their upgrades, but we'll have to see about that (personally I would like also the Angels to be able to resurrect, but only once, while the Archangels twice or even more times).

[nevermindspy]

znork, hard to understand you not sure what u want.

Zamolxis , i am always calmhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hmmz ressurect and summon , yes i suppose if that what it means then the skills are slightly
diffrent but still worries me all the lvl 7's creatures skills will involve some form of getting more level 6 units, i truly hope that is not the case in the future level 7 units.

[Pitsu]

Originally posted by nevermindspy:
... still worries me all the lvl 7's creatures skills will involve some form of getting more level 6 units, i truly hope that is not the case in the future level 7 units.

Don't worry, one of the 4 unknown lvl 7ths is phoenix who does not ressurect lvl 6 monsters but themselves and Dragons (black and bone) obviously do not summon or ressurect anyone. So Despite of most lvl7 creatures being flying and having good stats they are really different http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif {end of sarcasm}

[nevermindspy]

We'll see ,I can only hope ur right..

[Vlaadimir]

Hmmz ressurect and summon , yes i suppose if that what it means then the skills are slightly
diffrent but still worries me all the lvl 7's creatures skills will involve some form of getting more level 6 units, i truly hope that is not the case in the future level 7 units.
It is NOT the same - Devils will summon Pit Lords out of nothing (using mana, of course), while Angels will be able to resurrect only units killed in combat (NOT only level 6 - they resurrect Griffins in the video, remember?).

[nevermindspy]

Ops,your obsolutly right, i guess the word "champions" they used confused me since i thought about heroes 3 level 6's the champions.

Yep i guess these are two compeletly diffrent skills , Alright i'm happy nowhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JoostJens]

Originally posted by Pitsu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nevermindspy:
... still worries me all the lvl 7's creatures skills will involve some form of getting more level 6 units, i truly hope that is not the case in the future level 7 units.

Don't worry, one of the 4 unknown lvl 7ths is phoenix who does not ressurect lvl 6 monsters but themselves and Dragons (black and bone) obviously do not summon or ressurect anyone. So Despite of most lvl7 creatures being flying and having good stats they are really different http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif {end of sarcasm} </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are way off here, the devils do not fly, they teleport. That's something completely different and not even remotely the same. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

[Peeter04]

So it is cheaper to ressurect (you dont have to pay anything for ressurect) than summon!? And you can ressurect everyone and only summon one army class, so what if it is the strongest besides the deils. But you can benefit from each. If you go fighting with a weak angel army, ressurecting won't be too useful, if with a weak devil army, you could summon and suprise the enemy. But if you ressurect strong creatures it is useful and if you have strong creatures and summon it will be useful to you. So this is what you can say about this: Devils can benefit if they have weak or strong army, but Angels can only benefit if they have a strong army, maybe it is the price that equals this?

[Shredst0r]

what we probably have to expect are charge abilities of units in nearly all factions as well as resistances against.

[Archdevilhateu]

The archangels resurrection skill only makes sense for the unit. As for the devils, i would prefered to them to have the "no-reliation" ability of heroes 3, rather the the summoning special.

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

Originally posted by Vlaadimir:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hmmz ressurect and summon , yes i suppose if that what it means then the skills are slightly
diffrent but still worries me all the lvl 7's creatures skills will involve some form of getting more level 6 units, i truly hope that is not the case in the future level 7 units.
It is NOT the same - Devils will summon Pit Lords out of nothing (using mana, of course), while Angels will be able to resurrect only units killed in combat (NOT only level 6 - they resurrect Griffins in the video, remember?). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I'm not positive about the Devils summoning Pit Lords out of "nothing". It states that they "call for Pit Lord reinforcements straight from inferno." That could mean that they summon RECRUITABLE pit lords from your town. Interesting possibilities there...if not units available...summoning would fail. :O)

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

Originally posted by Archdevilhateu:
The archangels resurrection skill only makes sense for the unit. As for the devils, i would prefered to them to have the "no-reliation" ability of heroes 3, rather the the summoning special.

Still no info regarding that. They could very easily still have the "no retaliation" ability. I don't recall if you could tell this in the combat videos or not. But even so, they could change such things after the first beta test.

[Salventus]

Did you also know that the militia guard and the nightmare has the same skill? It's just that one is called "stun" which you lose a turn and the other is "terror" which also makes you lose a turn.?

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

Originally posted by Salventus:
Did you also know that the militia guard and the nightmare has the same skill? It's just that one is called "stun" which you lose a turn and the other is "terror" which also makes you lose a turn.?

Well....we THINK that's what they do. I could be way off base with those abilities. *shrugs*

[zeakul]

the devils don't have the no retal ability because in the video the devils attack then the angels retal. then the angels resereccts the griffens

[Salventus]

Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
Well....we THINK that's what they do. I could be way off base with those abilities. *shrugs*

In H4, I remember having the nightmare using terror form a distance as a spell and the enemy losing a turn. But did not have the ability to do more damage when charging from a distance to the target like the champion. It seems in H5, the nightmare also has the ability to do more damage when it charges to the target.

[KyleSeton]

It Seems to me that the units are quite similar in style whilst quite unique each unit has a “special abilityâ€Â� or special way in which it can be used .but that doesn’t mean that the unit are the same the units health, mana, speed and other aspects would surely be different providing the player with not only advantages to each unit but also providing the weakness only through learning you opponents units can you fully take advantage of them.

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

While all that "might" be true...just remember that things could change quite a bit after the beta-tests.