View Full Version : Neal Stevens Dev interview
shadow_858
01-19-2010, 11:14 AM
Some good Q and A with dan and Alex here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/sh5/preview_sh5_jan2010.php
OberZurSee
01-19-2010, 12:15 PM
Alex: You build your career through these phases, but the game ends in 1943.
lol
Maverick_U2007
01-19-2010, 12:30 PM
Great question and answer session.....
War end 1943....
Type Vii only...
Going to buy it...but fingers will definitely be crossed!!!
Maverick
AlexBeck2009
01-19-2010, 12:32 PM
It saves me money, I will stay with SH3+GWX and the whole war.
Celeon999
01-19-2010, 12:36 PM
Only type VII and its derivatives ?
Thats uncool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Subsim: So, what is the subtitle of this game going to be? Silent Hunter 5: Type VII U-boat simulator, The Early Years?
Dan: (chuckles)
Alex: It's called 'Battle of the Atlantic'. I really like it, because it gives a certain romantic feeling after the game, because the first years were the success and just ends over there when the wheel turns for the German Navy. It's pretty neat.
Yeah chuckles. But i wonder if Dan realized that this was not a joke but a cynic comment on something that the community absolutely did not want to hear from him.
Just as it will not like the "VII only" thingy.
In a interview a few months ago, Dan still said that the type II, IX would be featured in SH-V and that in a way as if this would be the most obligatory thing. Which it is indeed.
And now he speaks as if the "non presence" which i would call cancellation of those two boats was a "feature". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Sorry guys , but the answers you had to give in this interview contained only setbacks and very little "yeahs!".
Its never a smart idea to cut back good features which were present in earlier installments. N E V E R
One can cut back features that gave negative feedback, but never a feature nobody asked you to remove. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Huge mistake.
Subsim
01-19-2010, 01:32 PM
I think Dan's chuckles was more of a result of me being a smart alec. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
I'm keeping an open mind. One thing that bears repeating, when a game development team sets out to build a new type of game, they may not include "features" seen in previous versions. In this case, they are specializing on the personal element of being a captain and leading a crew of U-bootmen, and they are providing a new type of subsim, an interaction first person subsim. This game appears to be designed to give more of a Das Boot experience than an SH2/SH3 overarching career.
Celeon999
01-19-2010, 01:45 PM
Yes they surely try something new with SH-V.
But that answer which Dan gave several months back ,regarding which uboats the player would be able to command, tells me that the "focus on the VII" was not the initial plan for SH-V.
The decision must have been made rather recently.
To me this sounds as if the boats got sacrificed due to the usual time constraints. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
I would rather wait additional 3 to 5 months for SH-V than having it in March with only one type of uboat.
Well Im just hoping the artists have half modelled type IIs and IXs that can maybe finished and released later on.... ??
Im not gonna count on it though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
GertFroebe_neu
01-19-2010, 02:59 PM
The Interview was good, but the result is that I doubt I would buy SH5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
uniquewave
01-19-2010, 05:55 PM
Actually I don't think it's the worst thing to only have the Type VII. If it was modeled PERFECTLY in all areas: physics, graphics, sound, atmosphere. Hoever, I hope that this is one reason why the game is beginning to seem scaled down, not including the entire Atlantic. I would gladly pay $49 USD for a more focused game if it had a lot of care taken in its creation. In fact if there was a "Type VII Simulator", a "Type IX Simulator, or "type II Simlator I would actually pay money for each. Provided they were PERFECT.
One thing that I am suprised that will be missing is that it ends in '43. I thought that SH3 was pretty cool being that the later the year the more technology plays a role. The historical facts almost seem like they were made to produce an interesting game that changes throughout the course of it. If all the technology was available at the beginning of the war the game devs would probably create some sort of reward system to keep the game fresh as you play it. Such as getting new Hydrophones for sinking a certian target or having a number of patrols. Seems more realistic the way it is based off of history instead. I am suprised that the game ends (allegedly) in 43.
davewave82
01-19-2010, 10:50 PM
Here is my post from the facebook site:
I read the interview and I think what they are trying to do is think outside the square a liittle. Rather then just giving us another itteration of the same thing in which everyone expects to see this improve or that improve and never have expectations met. What's happening is that they have taken everyones suggestions... and boiled them down to the most essential elements of this era which Is that das boot and the major battles were fought with type vii boats and that the Uboat war after 1943 was really just a desperate attempt to keep the German fleet alfoat which as we all know failed. And as the devs have said time and time again, the outcome of the war would not have been altered by the efforts of one boat alone. See More
enigma1978
01-19-2010, 11:01 PM
This must some kind of joke to lower the expectations aning all us dreamers... Well, it works with me. I will buy it just in case, but if all this is true I doubt I will play it very much. I'm very happy to have SH3 and SH4 to fall back to.
OberZurSee
01-20-2010, 03:57 AM
I doubt I will play it very much.
Ubisoft doesn't give a **** about this as long as they have your money. Stop acting like refusing to play it is going to teach them anything.
jonny_captain
01-20-2010, 04:11 AM
I'm pretty excited about this new interview. Just think about it: SH4 was similar to SH3. We had the same thing, a new theater of operations - which is great. But that's it. Keeping the same idea would only mean to recreate SH3 again - which could be cool, of course but now we are promised something totally new. A re-invention of the sub simulator. I'm totally confident and, after playing SH3 and SH4 for so many year I AM waiting for something new on the genre not yet another re-iteration.
Good luck Ubi and keep up the good work! Please don't dissapoint us as we are waiting impatiently.
Shalashaska69
01-20-2010, 04:22 AM
damn website is down.
just wanted to read the interview..
socko2009
01-20-2010, 05:47 AM
Only one boat? .....And "Let's end the game before things get too difficult"?????
SH5 is sounding more and more like an arcade game!
....And, of course, UBI has no intention of supporting SH3 or SH4 into the next generation of Windows: .....So anyone who actually wants a more comprehensive simulation is screwed!
.....Anyone want to try the soup???? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
S.
enigma1978
01-20-2010, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by OberZurSee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I doubt I will play it very much.
Ubisoft doesn't give a **** about this as long as they have your money. Stop acting like refusing to play it is going to teach them anything. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I know that. I'm just honest. I still hope it's good, I just guess it's not good enough.
So where did the challenge go if we now will be able to play only the happy times? What about the homing torps, the snorkel, the warning recievers and everything that you were longing for during the first four years (!) in SH3? It's sad... sad...
socko2009
01-20-2010, 06:24 AM
Ubisoft doesn't give a **** about this as long as they have your money. Stop acting like refusing to play it is going to teach them anything.
I don’t believe that anyone here is delusional enough to think that UBI actually cares about their opinions! (It was recently explained to me, in great detail, just how little MY opinion meant!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif )
In a perfect world, there would be a person in Marketing who's job involved reading and analyzing customer feedback (…such as is found on these forums), and communicating that information to management.
If such a person and function actually existed at UBI, they couldn’t help but notice that among all of the disappointed responses, there is not one post that says; WONDERFUL!!! …Just exactly what I wanted!!! ….Just one boat to deal with, and an early end to the War!!!
Data like that would kinda hint to a NORMAL company that they had missed the mark!
S.
Maverick_U2007
01-20-2010, 09:10 AM
I read this last night and was quite shocked as to it's content that my original post was very short and to the point, now having had time to take it all in, well....
What an absolute 'cop out' and talk about pandering to the current 'climate' within the gaming community.
It is like it has been built for kids!!!!!!!!!!
On sub..."that won't tax them too much"
End in 1943..."don't want the little darlings being blown up too often!!!"
Animate the stations slightly...."lets get it right the little darlings probably don't know what a periscope looks like"
Have IQ's dropped all of sudden, have some Ubisoft people lost control of their senses (more than they usually lose them!!!). Anyone with a modicum of sense would have followed the progression of the Silent Hunter 3 game and see what the modders did to that to create the likes of SH3/GWX and SH3/WAC etc, and then they would have seen the issues that were raised with SH4 and they would have rolled them all up and created the perfect subsim. Not Ubisoft, they take it look at it and produce an arcade style 'adventure' taking you through the easiest parts of the war where it is easiest to 'blow stuff up', give you a variant of one boat to do it in and stop it all when the 'going gets toooooooooo tough'. Barking, absolutely barking mad, it is absolutely no wonder that Ubisfot is losing money hand over fist.
Don't anyone say that we should be grateful for them continuing the series, they haven't continued it, they have chopped it up and sent it in a completely direction. 'Little Jimmy' will now go into History class believing that the war ended in 1943, pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Yes I will buy the game and I hopefully will enjoy playing it, BUT right from the start there will always be something missing and unless they release further content, which we all know in the current climate we will have to pay for, then it will always be an unfinished piece of software!!!
Maverick
PS. Don't know why I'm suprised, the whole PC games market is being dumbed down....
AbleMaster
01-20-2010, 02:08 PM
Theyve opened the door for further content, i understand the time period and only the type VII too, i get that, but still a part of me seems disappointed. Although i believe SH5 will be a big leap forward in many ways, i guess some change is hard to take, just hope its in the right direction.
richardgadd
01-20-2010, 03:35 PM
I can see already its sim light. There are no graduated bearing marks in the periscope. How does one execute a manual torpedo solution with no bearing marks to read? I wonder if any of the developers have manualy plotted a solution?