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KingImp
03-29-2011, 09:10 AM
Apparently the word on the forums from a pretty reliable source is that the beta will finally begin on April 20th.

Hopefully people will stop asking why after pre-ordering they aren't able to play the beta now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Metamagician
03-29-2011, 09:37 AM
Excellent, we will finally be able to see detailed videos of all the factions on youtube.

Post links of the videos on this forum.

Nxss
03-29-2011, 09:44 AM
I think I am going to have to take this news with a grain of salt. Mainly because we heard that H6 was coming out in May then it was officially announced to be released at the en of June. So, going by that, I would think that if people are saying end of April, it will hit at the end of May. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

znork
03-29-2011, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Nxss:
I think I am going to have to take this news with a grain of salt. Mainly because we heard that H6 was coming out in May then it was officially announced to be released at the en of June. So, going by that, I would think that if people are saying end of April, it will hit at the end of May. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

qfe

KingImp
03-29-2011, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Nxss:
I think I am going to have to take this news with a grain of salt. Mainly because we heard that H6 was coming out in May then it was officially announced to be released at the en of June. So, going by that, I would think that if people are saying end of April, it will hit at the end of May. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I can definitely see this April date as believable. Maybe they decided they wanted to give people extra time to try the beta, test it out, and give feedback for some changes before the final release. Two months out would definitely give them more time to implement fixes.

Remember, it's a beta, not a demo.

Nxss
03-29-2011, 02:22 PM
Yessssss, I realize it is supposed to be a beta and not a demo. However, sometimes publishers do have the pre-order bonus called a beta when it is actually just an early demo.

I am not saying this is the case here, just stating that this could be what it is. To be a beta, it would really need to start in the next week or two so that a lot of people have a chance to test it for about a month or so. Keep in mind that games still need time to go to press and that takes a little bit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

amonkoth
03-29-2011, 04:45 PM
Great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Buying it sooner then

Zanosan
03-29-2011, 07:00 PM
To all Beta Testers (^_^)

Please do your best to squash those bugs & improve the game!

I'd help too but, unfortunately I could not buy the Collectors edition in Canada as of yet, and I'm holding out for the possibility that I can still get the CE editions for me and my friends.

thepyro_13
03-29-2011, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Nxss:
Yessssss, I realize it is supposed to be a beta and not a demo. However, sometimes publishers do have the pre-order bonus called a beta when it is actually just an early demo.
I'll be using it as a demo. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Most publishers follow a release fast, patch later approach these days. The fact that they've announced a release date probably means they'e already sent off a gold disk. Any changes made during the beta will be added to the game in the form of a day 0 patch.

Nalafein
03-30-2011, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Zanosan:
To all Beta Testers (^_^)

Please do your best to squash those bugs & improve the game!

I'd help too but, unfortunately I could not buy the Collectors edition in Canada as of yet, and I'm holding out for the possibility that I can still get the CE editions for me and my friends.

It would be hard to find most of them, a month or two isnt so much. and depends how communication works. but will try ofc.

Shawn85
03-30-2011, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Zanosan:
To all Beta Testers (^_^)

Please do your best to squash those bugs & improve the game!

I'd help too but, unfortunately I could not buy the Collectors edition in Canada as of yet, and I'm holding out for the possibility that I can still get the CE editions for me and my friends.

wsup fellow canadian, yeh you can get a digital version of the collectors edition. i know its not the same and i know its strange they withhold all physical copies from north america but whatever i guess. ubistore is where i ordered mine.

LGbest
04-03-2011, 02:53 PM
what beta will begins ??? this collectors or deluxe version or sth like demo for PC ???

Codename-49
04-04-2011, 01:46 AM
hi!

I've searched whole ubi.com and the internet... and there's no answer:

How Can I get key to the Beta??!??

Kartabon
04-04-2011, 03:33 AM
@Codename: you can get a beta key preordering the game.

OmegaZoa
04-05-2011, 03:29 PM
@Kartabon i preordered and didnt get anything. will we get key when beta is released?

Fever_K
04-05-2011, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by OmegaZoa:
@Kartabon i preordered and didnt get anything. will we get key when beta is released?

I suppose we will get access when the beta is ready; I preordered as well but no key was given.

Kartabon
04-06-2011, 07:05 AM
You will probably get it when the beta will be about to be released

KingImp
04-06-2011, 08:16 AM
Two weeks to go and counting! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WeaselDeity
04-06-2011, 09:57 AM
Can't wait!!!

mcgslo
04-07-2011, 05:27 AM
I hope there will be no open beta. Beta games usualy spoil the retail game at least for me. And i dont really have time to test games without payment! I want to play finished products.

my opininon only ofcourse... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mugoof
04-07-2011, 06:11 AM
I order'd the Deluxe edition on steam as i find Steam more convenient as i got a lot of friends there, but idk if i get beta there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

thepyro_13
04-07-2011, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Mugoof:
I order'd the Deluxe edition on steam as i find Steam more convenient as i got a lot of friends there, but idk if i get beta there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

It says you will get access on the steam store page for heroes VI.


Steam Exclusive Pre-Purchase Offer:
Pre-Purchase and receive access to the beta when it becomes available

NachoAdept
04-11-2011, 10:42 PM
If this rumor is true then we can hope that in 8 days we will all be playing some beta! Here's to silly hopes!

Nalafein
04-12-2011, 03:57 AM
Lets hope theres truth to the rumor, but cant know for sure, at steam its says that game is ready 27th may..

Asterisk
04-12-2011, 05:56 AM
I, for once, don't want to spoil the game for myself with betas. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nxss
04-12-2011, 11:10 AM
I'm really hoping that the date is correct as for the next couple months there are not really a whole lot of games releasing I care about. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

thepyro_13
04-13-2011, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Nalafein:
Lets hope theres truth to the rumor, but cant know for sure, at steam its says that game is ready 27th may.. The steam date is wrong. The real date is in one of the sticky and on wikipedia.

Current release on: 21-24/06/2011

Steam is always slow to update the release dates after a delay.

I'd love some official word on the beta date.

VologyaHUNTeam
04-17-2011, 02:33 PM
Hello Everybody!

WARNING!!! Cheaters advertise Heroes VI Beta keys on the internet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/HOMM6leaked
http://www.youtube.com/user/HOMM6leaked2
http://www.youtube.com/user/HOMM6leaked3

No one can belive this! This is a rubbery!!!

Thanks for your attention!!!

Best regards,

Fidozor
04-17-2011, 06:00 PM
^ wtf is that all about?


anyway some kind of official beta date would be nice...

Hodge_Podge
04-17-2011, 09:29 PM
Well, so far none of the so-called 'released' information has come to pass. Why would anyone pre-order a game just to test the Beta?

Shouldn't a Beta or Demo be provided so that potential buyers of the game can tell if it's even going to work properly on their computer?

Buying a game before it's been tested is such a con. Sheesh how gullible are you people?

Iglocska
04-18-2011, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Hodge_Podge:
Well, so far none of the so-called 'released' information has come to pass. Why would anyone pre-order a game just to test the Beta?

Shouldn't a Beta or Demo be provided so that potential buyers of the game can tell if it's even going to work properly on their computer?

Buying a game before it's been tested is such a con. Sheesh how gullible are you people?

Considering that people pre-order games based on their preference / hype / earlier experiences with a series, it should come as no surprise that people pre-order it when there's a chance to play the game before the release date.

I myself am very excited about the beta - not to decide whether I want to purchase it or not (I am happy to own every HoMM game in the series, even HoMM 4, my most disliked game of the series gave me hours upon hours of entertainment), but rather to get early access to one of my most anticipated games. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nosce
04-18-2011, 08:46 AM
People are confusing Beta and Demo. A demo is something you download after a game is released to see if you want to purchase it. A Beta is an early version of a game that still requires testing for bugs and balance issues.

Being a part of the Beta means you get to help shape the game in its last phase. That is huge.

Nxss
04-18-2011, 09:30 AM
I have to disagree with you a little bit, nosce. Yes, a beta is for bug checking, crashes, how compatible it is on a lot of different systems, and OS's etc.. The beta is usually done months before the release or a demo though. As for a demo coming out after the release, I really disagree. Usually if there is no demo before the game is released, it is crap! There exceptions to that rule, not many though.

More on topic; as we are two days away from when the beta is rumored to start, can we get someone from Ubi or BH to confirm or deny this? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

znork
04-18-2011, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Nxss:
More on topic; as we are two days away from when the beta is rumored to start, can we get someone from Ubi or BH to confirm or deny this? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think they are denying to confirm ithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

nosce
04-18-2011, 03:05 PM
Betas usually run right up until release. Starcraft 2, world of warcraft, Rift, Fallen Earth, etc. I've been in DOZENS of betas and that is always how they go.

A DEMO is usually a small snippet of a game designed to tip those on the fence people over into the buy category.

It used to be that all games had a Demo (Although used to be called Shareware version) so that you could try before you buy. That was in an age though where information on games was hard to come by and the ONLY WAY to find out anything about a game other than what the Publisher was saying was to play a little bit.

Nowadays, gaming info is ubiquitous. From videos, to reviews it is EVERYWHERE. As such, most publishers don't bother with them anymore. If they do, they put them out after.

Examples of games without demos that were awesome:
Starcraft 2
Dawn of War 2
Team Fortress 2
Killing Floor

I could go on forever but I don't want to accidentally name a game with a Demo and have that be the one thing you seize upon to prove your ridiculous point.

Betas are a good thing, they help a developer account for the myriad of hardware issues that can result just from the nature of PC gaming. That makes the game better for everyone and I for one am excited to be a part of that with this game as I have been with so many others.

Fidozor
04-18-2011, 03:20 PM
Pretty annoyed with the way they are handling the Beta...

I can't think of any other game that advertised "Pre order now for free beta key!!"

and then a month later you still have absolutely zero information about it...not even a "beta coming soon" email or nothing.

Oh well

/waits

JonnyBrate
04-19-2011, 12:17 AM
Awesome... So Beta is gonna be free right? Man can't wait http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Where will the download be?

cossacking
04-19-2011, 12:21 AM
Well, seeing how they post news on the front page they simply have no idea when to release the beta. Oh, and if it's released on 20th April, we are most likely to have some kind of a newspost in 21th April about another thing, and then, on ~25th they will post a message (dated 20th) that the beta has started with the information how to obtain it.

Iglocska
04-19-2011, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by nosce:
Betas usually run right up until release. Starcraft 2, world of warcraft, Rift, Fallen Earth, etc. I've been in DOZENS of betas and that is always how they go.

A DEMO is usually a small snippet of a game designed to tip those on the fence people over into the buy category.

It used to be that all games had a Demo (Although used to be called Shareware version) so that you could try before you buy. That was in an age though where information on games was hard to come by and the ONLY WAY to find out anything about a game other than what the Publisher was saying was to play a little bit.

Nowadays, gaming info is ubiquitous. From videos, to reviews it is EVERYWHERE. As such, most publishers don't bother with them anymore. If they do, they put them out after.

Examples of games without demos that were awesome:
Starcraft 2
Dawn of War 2
Team Fortress 2
Killing Floor

I could go on forever but I don't want to accidentally name a game with a Demo and have that be the one thing you seize upon to prove your ridiculous point.

Betas are a good thing, they help a developer account for the myriad of hardware issues that can result just from the nature of PC gaming. That makes the game better for everyone and I for one am excited to be a part of that with this game as I have been with so many others.

Actually the starcraft 2 beta ended about a month before release. I remember it clearly because it was a very difficult month to wait through http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

znork
04-19-2011, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by JonnyBrate:
Awesome... So Beta is gonna be free right? Man can't wait http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Where will the download be?

If you preordered the game yes.

sanctuary.gr
04-19-2011, 04:28 AM
have you got any link to dl beta.
a page or something?
i am extremely busy these days and i have no time to search it.
so if someone can post it i would appreciate it

RealJabbadoor
04-19-2011, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by sanctuary.gr:
have you got any link to dl beta.
a page or something?
i am extremely busy these days and i have no time to search it.
so if someone can post it i would appreciate it

Since it's a closed beta, you shouldn't expect any link to it. And even if someone did link to it, it would probably not work, since it would most likely be tied to the purchase.


As for the people complaining about that the beta being a part of a preorder, it's not really so odd that more and more games do it that way.
A beta is not a demo, it's there to catch bugs, to minimize them for when the game is released.
In an open beta, there are alot of people using the beta as a demo, and can actually in some cases make the testing less effective.
This way they make sure that the majority of the people joining the beta, are fans of the game, and are interested in making the game better, and therefor more likely to report bugs and less whining.
The only thing an open beta is good for is stress tests of serverbased games, and in those cases it's often just at the end of the beta phase that is open.

znork
04-19-2011, 06:58 AM
When the beta starts you will all get an email. The beta is rumord to tommorow!

BUT NOT CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So IF the beta startes tommorow expect an email.

Aldebaran85
04-19-2011, 07:15 AM
I don't like how this beta is managed, i pre orderd the game only to try the beta but there are still no official informations about when it's starts, only rumors. No email, no news, nothing.

The game starts in 2 months, what are they waiting for ?

Really disappointed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

znork
04-19-2011, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Aldebaran85:

The game starts in 2 months, what are they waiting for ?

Really disappointed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

They are working on it so they are not waiting

Aldebaran85
04-19-2011, 07:50 AM
But there are still no official informations. It's strange that they can set a game release date without being able to set a beta release date :S

Asterisk
04-19-2011, 08:01 AM
I have a feeling that they'll move the release date to the end of summer.

jasminos87
04-19-2011, 08:10 AM
Eny1 know when beta is coming i wonna play that ***ing beta

Aldebaran85
04-19-2011, 08:34 AM
No one knows, rumors say tomorrow but i have not much hope

sanctuary.gr
04-19-2011, 08:45 AM
it looks like none have seen my previous post.
an employee in a store told me that they will get heroes 6 at September
this mean that release date will probably change

Nxss
04-19-2011, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by sanctuary.gr:
it looks like none have seen my previous post.
an employee in a store told me that they will get heroes 6 at September
this mean that release date will probably change

That had better be on giant bleeping lie!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sanctuary.gr
04-19-2011, 09:23 AM
i tell you what he told me.
name : public

if he checked it then must be true.
this is the website (you will not find info about heroes there).
i posted it just to saw you that is a big store
so it is hard to say they made a mistake.
http://www.public.gr/

Aldebaran85
04-19-2011, 09:47 AM
Hope the employee was drunk :P I want to play this gameeeehhh

Nxss
04-19-2011, 10:09 AM
If the beta was free, it would most likely be played by people that just want to play the game early and not give helpful feedback. Having the beta just for people that pre-order, they basically know that those people, most likely, love the series and want to help make it better. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cossacking
04-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by sanctuary.gr:
lets see a senario that i have come with.
why to make beta free?
maybe they did not go well with the preorders, and they do not have many gamers in beta.
so they believe that the game may not sale as expected.
making the beta fee means more people will offer an opinion and that will allow them to change the game in a way as to sell more.
make changes take time so the date of release will be moved by two months.
a possible senario in my opinion.

The release date is officially confirmed. They cannot shift it without offering something in return.
Making beta free means you will have to offer a dedicated hosting service (and not some patchwork downloader blizzard has), so it is essentially a waste of time, cash without a guaranteed 'increase in bug and gameplay issue reports'. NOT going to happen.

sanctuary.gr
04-19-2011, 10:24 AM
i read somewhere that beta would be free.pls do not tell me it was a fake statement.
i do not have the money to preorder now

Nxss
04-19-2011, 10:41 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news sanctuary, but there has been no announcement of an open beta. Which would be free. If you want to be in the closed beta, there is no other way to play it other than pre-ordering thus far. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Asterisk
04-19-2011, 11:13 AM
Torrent beta (when it comes out of course).

cossacking
04-19-2011, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Nxss:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news sanctuary, but there has been no announcement of an open beta. Which would be free. If you want to be in the closed beta, there is no other way to play it other than pre-ordering thus far. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beta is one of pre-order bonuses, and judging from the release date, there will be no other way to gain access.

Shawn85
04-19-2011, 11:35 AM
What are they waiting for? Why the lack of information? There doing many odd things. First of all no physical copies of this game in North America, second of all the American version of this website is dated in its news stream. You have to go to the British one to get up to date news, LOL. Also why make the pre-order bonus a beta and give us literally no details other than that. The games been confirmed to release shortly, isn't the point of a beta to flesh out bugs and get feedback?

thepyro_13
04-19-2011, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Shawn85:
What are they waiting for? Why the lack of information? There doing many odd things. First of all no physical copies of this game in North America, second of all the American version of this website is dated in its news stream. You have to go to the British one to get up to date news, LOL... Don't be so surprised, this is how it always is when the developer isn't based in your home county. The rest of the world deals with American publishers doing the same thing, so just get used to it.

Fyrestorme
04-19-2011, 08:30 PM
can't wait 'til betacake http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rei-V
04-19-2011, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by thepyro_13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shawn85:
What are they waiting for? Why the lack of information? There doing many odd things. First of all no physical copies of this game in North America, second of all the American version of this website is dated in its news stream. You have to go to the British one to get up to date news, LOL... Don't be so surprised, this is how it always is when the developer isn't based in your home county. The rest of the world deals with American publishers doing the same thing, so just get used to it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This a hundred times. A mixture of "my consolences, it is frustrating I agree", and "suck it in, spoiled US gamers :P"

cossacking
04-19-2011, 10:51 PM
As I pointed out, it is 20th April, but the news (as I am in EU I watch the GB site, so the up-to-date one) have nothing to say about the upcoming beta.

I guess it's high time this thread got closed.

srendrag80
04-19-2011, 11:32 PM
http://www.nodiatis.com/pub/18.jpg (http://www.nodiatis.com/personality.htm) I got myself the deluxe version and am counting down to beta

raider_manhc
04-20-2011, 02:48 AM
SO....it is the 20th of april....where is the BETA???? i have pre-ordered the collector edition...and am waiting to know how to get the beta!!!

Shawn85
04-20-2011, 02:50 AM
Sigh.

znork
04-20-2011, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by raider_manhc:
SO....it is the 20th of april....where is the BETA???? i have pre-ordered the collector edition...and am waiting to know how to get the beta!!!

First off all IF there is any news it will be out after 1400 paris time. But there has never been a confirmation about the beta date.

znork
04-20-2011, 04:49 AM
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.

cossacking
04-20-2011, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by znork:
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.
<STRIKE>
1. Why double post?
2. Why spam?
3. There has been no official announcement neither for "today's" beta nor release date postponement.

All lies, sir. Now get lost.

P.S. I do not care that french version got postponed if they underpay the translators. The release date stays confirmed at June 23rd (EU) at the moment.
</STRIKE>

znork
04-20-2011, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.

1. Why double post?
2. Why spam?
3. There has been no official announcement neither for "today's" beta nor release date postponement.

All lies, sir. Now get lost.

P.S. I do not care that french version got postponed if they underpay the translators. The release date stays confirmed at June 23rd (EU) at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1 the news is just out
2 this is not spam
3 The realse date has been officaly been deleayed to 8 september.

now act nice!

Asterisk
04-20-2011, 05:44 AM
^ source?

cossacking
04-20-2011, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by znork:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.

1. Why double post?
2. Why spam?
3. There has been no official announcement neither for "today's" beta nor release date postponement.

All lies, sir. Now get lost.

P.S. I do not care that french version got postponed if they underpay the translators. The release date stays confirmed at June 23rd (EU) at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1 the news is just out
2 this is not spam
3 The realse date has been officaly been deleayed to 8 september.

now act nice! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<STRIKE>No link = no proof.

Here's an official announcement made by the publisher that confirms my statements: http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...4674&ct=tcm:6-231-32 (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/news/details.aspx?c=tcm:21-14674&ct=tcm:6-231-32)
Here's a sticky made by a forum manager (which has less value, but still confirms it): http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1060878/m/4691069519 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5861060878/m/4691069519)
</STRIKE>
And do me a favor, do not write your replies in such a rush. Or is your house on fire? (concerning the never-ending typos)

skrym3
04-20-2011, 06:23 AM
Nice work, so they give a release date in March then throw out pre orders to make cash. Push it back to June and bait with beta access making consumers think they will be invited into the beta soon since it's release date isn't too far off. Then, when the pre order sales flat line they push the date back even further which was there original intention in the first place.

Cancel your pre orders and I bet that beta will be released within the month, this is horse****.

Iglocska
04-20-2011, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.

1. Why double post?
2. Why spam?
3. There has been no official announcement neither for "today's" beta nor release date postponement.

All lies, sir. Now get lost.

P.S. I do not care that french version got postponed if they underpay the translators. The release date stays confirmed at June 23rd (EU) at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1 the news is just out
2 this is not spam
3 The realse date has been officaly been deleayed to 8 september.

now act nice! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No link = no proof.

Here's an official announcement made by the publisher that confirms my statements: http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...4674&ct=tcm:6-231-32 (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/news/details.aspx?c=tcm:21-14674&ct=tcm:6-231-32)
Here's a sticky made by a forum manager (which has less value, but still confirms it): http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1060878/m/4691069519 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5861060878/m/4691069519)

And do me a favor, do not write your replies in such a rush. Or is your house on fire? (concerning the never-ending typos) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Date changed in your first link, confirming September 8th as the release date.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

cossacking
04-20-2011, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by Iglocska:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cossacking:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by znork:
the game has be prosponed to september so dont expect the beta today.

1. Why double post?
2. Why spam?
3. There has been no official announcement neither for "today's" beta nor release date postponement.

All lies, sir. Now get lost.

P.S. I do not care that french version got postponed if they underpay the translators. The release date stays confirmed at June 23rd (EU) at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1 the news is just out
2 this is not spam
3 The realse date has been officaly been deleayed to 8 september.

now act nice! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No link = no proof.

Here's an official announcement made by the publisher that confirms my statements: http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...4674&ct=tcm:6-231-32 (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/news/details.aspx?c=tcm:21-14674&ct=tcm:6-231-32)
Here's a sticky made by a forum manager (which has less value, but still confirms it): http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1060878/m/4691069519 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5861060878/m/4691069519)

And do me a favor, do not write your replies in such a rush. Or is your house on fire? (concerning the never-ending typos) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Date changed in your first link, confirming September 8th as the release date.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You meant the second link.

Well, in light of these news, I will withdraw my previous statements in advance, as now it is only a matter of time until these make on to the front page.

*goes to strikethrough previous posts*

urb_
04-20-2011, 07:03 AM
So we all got slapped. Nicely played, Ubisoft.
No honey no money though.

Iglocska
04-20-2011, 07:12 AM
My bad, it's the second link indeed. I know that in the long run it is for the better, rather polish the game than release something half-arsed.

But still, it does make me feel disappointed.

urb_
04-20-2011, 07:13 AM
HOMM VI: Duke's Legacy )

sanctuary.gr
04-20-2011, 07:15 AM
TOLD YOU THAT THE EMPLOYEE IN THE STORE SAID THAT THE RELEASE DATE WOULD BE IN SEPTEMBER.

http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...6424&ct=tcm:6-231-32 (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/news/details.aspx?c=tcm:21-16424&ct=tcm:6-231-32)

Dreamwright
04-20-2011, 07:18 AM
Ah yes, a better product is on the way and the first reflex is "this is terrible, let's complain" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The unfortunate fact is that games cost money to develop and there are often underestimations or overestimations as to release dates. Especially with a bureaucracy-laden, profit-oriented organisation like Ubisoft. But it's not the first time I said "don't place stock in that date" or "hope for a delay".

As I say elsewhere though, nay-sayers can also take heart in this, because the developers no longer have a "we ran out of time" excuse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tomego
04-20-2011, 07:25 AM
I am more than a little frustrated right now.

JakeLOLk
04-20-2011, 08:26 AM
Is there any way to cancel your preorder?

I genuinely feel like I was baited to preorder with promise of beta. No mention of the beta not being available when I preordered, first disappointment right there. Now game is postponed and still no mention of the promised beta.

Am I the only one who feel like they pushed the preorders with false promise of a beta key?
I, for one, will not endorce this and will cancel my preorder if possible..

Asterisk
04-20-2011, 08:35 AM
Call your credit card and dispute the charge. Works like a charm.

znork
04-20-2011, 09:48 AM
Then youll just end up loosing out on the beta and a grate game.

skrym3
04-20-2011, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by znork:
Then youll just end up loosing out on the beta and a grate game.

So you're fine with being baited as long as the game is good? You endorse this kind of behavior from a company?

<span class="ev_code_RED">EDIT: I couldnt behave properly on the forums so my post was edited.</span>

Fidozor
04-20-2011, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by JakeLOLk:
Is there any way to cancel your preorder?

I genuinely feel like I was baited to preorder with promise of beta. No mention of the beta not being available when I preordered, first disappointment right there. Now game is postponed and still no mention of the promised beta.

Am I the only one who feel like they pushed the preorders with false promise of a beta key?
I, for one, will not endorce this and will cancel my preorder if possible..

I feel the exact same way..total bull****.

Going to cancel preorder and buy the new mortal kombat

RakothMaugrim
04-20-2011, 11:47 AM
I am sorry to say, but we were promised a Beta, not a beta date, not a beta duration. Just a beta.

Legally, Ubisoft can give us a Beta for a week, and get away with it.

I don't quite understand why you feel they owe you a beta on April 20th? There was no official date, this was purely unofficial and conjecture.

We will get the beta, it's probably been delayed, just like the game has. I work in software, I know how this works, and I firmly believe that pushing back a game release will not hurt you as much as publishing an unfinished game.

Yes, you can "Patch" the game, but look at the RIM playbook. It was rushed out, and the sales will suffer, I promise you that. Also, a lot of gamers are review and feedback based purchasers. If you have bad reviews, and bad feedback (but you solve all the issues within a month, or three) your sales will suffer that much more.

Fyrestorme
04-20-2011, 11:56 AM
hmm I have seen the game play videos and you're still going to tell me that it's not ready for BETA? A BETA is meant for users to be able to find bugs and report them to the developers. It's no use trying to make the game bug-free and THEN release BETA - that kinda defeats the purpose of the BETA testing...

IMO, from what I've seen, there is enough to test already. It's not a demo (or if it is then just call it a demo and not BETA) so let us help you test already! xD

JakeLOLk
04-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Im not saying they should release the game before it is finished. I dont mind the game getting postponed to yield a better result.

I do however mind the way the conducted the whole preorder thing. Setting up preorder with a CONFIRMED release date and a promise of a beta. You cannot seriously believe they didnt know the game wouldnt finish in june..

This kind of marketing strategy is so transparrent and sickening at the same time.
I cant see any reason whatsoever why I should be paying them before release via preorder and with this kind of behavior I will seriously reconsider if this is a game I want to buy when they finally release it.

Sorry for long vent.

Shawn85
04-20-2011, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Asterisk:
Call your credit card and dispute the charge. Works like a charm.

lol, rocky start blackhole. ubisoft you've lost all my future business. If we the fanbase/customers don't receive details on the beta event and some kind of reason for the push-back within a week ill be cancelling my pre-order. Good to know im not the only one. Their information policies and channels of communication are atrocious. Bait and switch marketing does not work anymore... Buying this game was purely out of respect for the Homm series, as im sure for most was. Seems like our faith is at an all time low now.

DirtyBishop
04-20-2011, 10:31 PM
I planned to pre-order the game but I couldn't find any official word on the beta release. It's a good thing that I take the time to research before I jump to a conclusion.

I have to apologize for my American citizens who do not take the time to identify what is real and what isn't. It's not their fault, they were probably born with a McDonalds on every corner to feed their immediate needs.

urb_
04-21-2011, 12:42 AM
Guys, please understand that no business would want to delay the release of their product and their profits unless there's some serious issues.
I actually waited for beta to buy the game (due to nostaligc reasons, it looks like an upgraded HOMM-3 to me). But okay, that's just a game, I can wait.

roshgar
04-21-2011, 02:04 AM
The amount of pure whining going on here... :-/

If you care so much about getting the game I assume that means you are a fan of the series, why not get behind them and support their decisions , rather than just condemn it because of x / y / z reason. (yes I'm talking about optimism)

I've been playing these games for over 15 years (not as long as some) and UbiSoft has done a pretty decent job of taking over the franchise, its a wonder we had a heroes 5 at all, let alone heroes 6, if you just plain don't like the new world or the new direction or whatever, cool, thats a respectable thing. But why do people always feel the need to cry havoc when something goes a little differently to how they expected?

Imo, more time production time doesnt always mean a better game - but it most certainly increases the chance of it being better, we can judge it when its out , i was going to make a comment about prepurchasing games and smart buying but well what anyone does with their money isnt my business is it?

I have trust in this game because every bit of behind the scenes I have seen looks promising, the interviews show the passion of the creators and one thing is obvious, they want to do a good job. They've acknowledged problems from heroes 5 and are communicating with the fanbase a lot more than a lot of other games do, I know they genuinely want to get it right, im not being a fanboy, just being observant and maybe optimistic (oh no).

i guess the message of my rant is this, if you are actually a fan of this series why not have a little faith?

sorry for the rant but it really grinds my gears , im so excited to see 'any' new heroes game , so far they've all been good in their own way (yeah even heroes 4 was fun in its own way)

decebalusu
04-21-2011, 03:10 AM
Excuse me?!...Who is saying that being a fan means you have to support a bad attitude from a company?
Look dude, Im playing the series since 1997, but this is not a reason to be obidient to someone, taking their words for anything. Im just a fan of the series and not to the plastic figurines, trailers, pictures on the web-sites.
I/we need to see the mechanics of the game "in work", I wouldnt be satisfied with oppinions from some called interviews about game's strategy etcetera etcetera...Theres only dedicated players who can improve the game by playing it.. So you see now? A BETA is a necessity for fans ASAP, besides this, we got only empty words, pics, pre-ordering options and so on.
If you say you're just fan, like anyone else in here, then you need to reconsider it, else, I really have doubts about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

edit: BTW, working HARDER is not the same with working LONGER :P

cossacking
04-21-2011, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by roshgar:
The amount of pure whining going on here... :-/

If you care so much about getting the game I assume that means you are a fan of the series, why not get behind them and support their decisions , rather than just condemn it because of x / y / z reason. (yes I'm talking about optimism)

I've been playing these games for over 15 years (not as long as some) and UbiSoft has done a pretty decent job of taking over the franchise, its a wonder we had a heroes 5 at all, let alone heroes 6, if you just plain don't like the new world or the new direction or whatever, cool, thats a respectable thing. But why do people always feel the need to cry havoc when something goes a little differently to how they expected?

Imo, more time production time doesnt always mean a better game - but it most certainly increases the chance of it being better, we can judge it when its out , i was going to make a comment about prepurchasing games and smart buying but well what anyone does with their money isnt my business is it?

I have trust in this game because every bit of behind the scenes I have seen looks promising, the interviews show the passion of the creators and one thing is obvious, they want to do a good job. They've acknowledged problems from heroes 5 and are communicating with the fanbase a lot more than a lot of other games do, I know they genuinely want to get it right, im not being a fanboy, just being observant and maybe optimistic (oh no).

i guess the message of my rant is this, if you are actually a fan of this series why not have a little faith?

sorry for the rant but it really grinds my gears , im so excited to see 'any' new heroes game , so far they've all been good in their own way (yeah even heroes 4 was fun in its own way)

The thing is, we are not talking about development process and gameplay decisions.
I, for one, really dislike the new style, the new world (Ashan) and other things since Ubisoft took over. As I said, I got over it, pre-ordered and I will not cancel it yet.

The thing is, noone forced them to announce the game will be out at the end of June. However, they did it. And merely one month later they shift the date. This only shows that either THEY KNEW they were making a false announcement or this was the result of the lack of communication with the developers.

sanctuary.gr
04-21-2011, 05:43 AM
the point is that many people preordered the game at the beginig or in the middle of april in order to play the beta in 4/20/2011.
so the day that they are waiting comes and instead of downloading it they hear the delay.
if the change was announced in 3/25/2011 for example there would not be so much complains!!!

i mean they did not have time to finish the beta at least or to annouce the delay while they uploaded this?

http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...dia/video/index.aspx (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/media/video/index.aspx)

they actually worked for this?

Voii
04-21-2011, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by sanctuary.gr:
the point is that many people preordered the game at the beginig or in the middle of april in order to play the beta in 4/20/2011.
so the day that they are waiting comes and instead of downloading it they hear the delay.
if the change was announced in 3/25/2011 for example there would not be so much complains!!!

i mean they did not have time to finish the beta at least or to annouce the delay while they uploaded this?

http://might-and-magic.ubi.com...dia/video/index.aspx (http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/media/video/index.aspx)

they actually worked for this?

They didn't. Animations and concept arts will be created by 3rd party. Probably movie is just pack of finished renders.

http://puppetworks.eu/#/work/heroes
http://www.3mages.eu/#/works/heroes

I'm not a game developer, so I'm in no position to say "it's time to release beta". But I think we should get something in exchange for waiting extra months. Details on beta, it's release date, some new extras.

Even if I would like to cancel my preorder, it would be impossible, I bought it through Steam. But I will wait, I will be patient. IMO, flaming on forums and taking back developers money, won't publish game earlier... although shouldn't postpone it either. At least raging.

Anyway shame on you, ubi. I love me beta.

Fidozor
04-21-2011, 03:25 PM
oh well, hopefully its released before diablo 3 lol

RakothMaugrim
04-21-2011, 04:37 PM
the point is that many people preordered the game at the beginig or in the middle of april in order to play the beta in 4/20/2011.

This is flawed. They never promised the beta date, they just said we would have access, that was a rumor, and one that was false.

As for the game ready for beta. What you see are screen shots, and mean nothing. Creating a beta is not simple, it`s not taking a version of the product and throwing it to the fans.

It`s packaging the product and THEN throwing it to the fans. The delay means that the packaging part of it was also delayed. They have professional testers to find bugs, and we will find about 1/100th of their bugs. I am a professional software tester, I do this for a living. Believe me, my bug count is at least a hundred times higher then the unknown bugs that my product users have found.

I do agree, more communication would be awesome, and I think that even if delaying the game is a good thing, they could do a much better job communicating with the fans.

Fyrestorme
04-21-2011, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Fidozor:
oh well, hopefully its released before diablo 3 lol

oh you mean before NEVER ?

roshgar
04-21-2011, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by decebalusu:
Excuse me?!...Who is saying that being a fan means you have to support a bad attitude from a company?
Look dude, Im playing the series since 1997, but this is not a reason to be obidient to someone, taking their words for anything. Im just a fan of the series and not to the plastic figurines, trailers, pictures on the web-sites.
I/we need to see the mechanics of the game "in work", I wouldnt be satisfied with oppinions from some called interviews about game's strategy etcetera etcetera...Theres only dedicated players who can improve the game by playing it.. So you see now? A BETA is a necessity for fans ASAP, besides this, we got only empty words, pics, pre-ordering options and so on.
If you say you're just fan, like anyone else in here, then you need to reconsider it, else, I really have doubts about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

edit: BTW, working HARDER is not the same with working LONGER :P

I wasn't saying you shouldn't look into it, and the comment wasn't directed at anyone personally because obviously everyone has their own views, there are a lot of people both here - and on the facebook pages whining that they are entitled to a beta because they preordered and because they didnt get beta access like 'originally promised' they have been lied to, betrayed, cheated out of their money ect.

And if you are saying a beta is needed for fans, well its not really....... thats not how beta works, beta is an important phase in a games cycle designed to improve the gameplay, in game production - anything before alpha means the functionality (ie coding, UI , engine that sort of thing)

Beta is the cycle where the game goes (or is supposed to) under the microscope and bugs are picked out, gameplay is fine tuned, art is finalised , and overall polish is added, i know people want beta to 'play' but ... thats really not what beta is for, the fact that they have withheld the beta means they still think there is some more in-house testing they can do before they want to release it to 'us' to look at, the truth about beta is, its a nice look for those of us who cant wait but really what ubisoft (and every company who opens beta testing to the public) hopes for - is a bit of free testing by the masses.

They know we all dont understand the purpose of beta so they will keep an eye on forums for people on the beta complaining/reporting that 'x doesnt work' or 'y is unfinished' ect, and they will go along and fix that in house.

And Cossacking -
Of course, like i said, if you dont like the new world, ashan, i can totally understand that. thats reasonable.
but thing is - someone probably DID force them to announce that it will be out in june, you have to remember behind every game - are the guys who care only about the money, not the game, and they will be announcing deadlines. If you look into the history of might and magic games, this is the exact reason why the original MM series died off in the first place, i saw an interview with jon van caneghem where he mentioned that he was being forced to make the ps2 games instead of continuing his work on the pc franchise, i wont go all the way into it but long story short, the console games were not very good and did not sell well, they ran out of money and went bankrupt. this is just the truth of it, the guys who make the games just make the games... they dont always make the big choices. (link to the interview with jon if you want to look at it http://classic-web.archive.org..._200404/ai_n9515262/ (http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20060322152658/http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdcgw/is_200404/ai_n9515262/) there is another one going into the detail of the 'sales issue.. i'll try and find it and post here if i can )

sorry , not meaning to sound like an ***. just trying to discuss :0

srendrag80
04-21-2011, 08:10 PM
It just sucks since those of us in the states that bought the game off steam have been charged already for the game which was bought under the premise that the game would release in june. I understand about problems happening and some jerk off in a suit throwing release dates out there but damn to have already been charged and nothing to show for awhile know and not even an explenation thats just bad business (and before its said I know my punctiation and spelling suck sorry)

cossacking
04-21-2011, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by RakothMaugrim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the point is that many people preordered the game at the beginig or in the middle of april in order to play the beta in 4/20/2011.

This is flawed. They never promised the beta date, they just said we would have access, that was a rumor, and one that was false.

As for the game ready for beta. What you see are screen shots, and mean nothing. Creating a beta is not simple, it`s not taking a version of the product and throwing it to the fans.

It`s packaging the product and THEN throwing it to the fans. The delay means that the packaging part of it was also delayed. They have professional testers to find bugs, and we will find about 1/100th of their bugs. I am a professional software tester, I do this for a living. Believe me, my bug count is at least a hundred times higher then the unknown bugs that my product users have found.

I do agree, more communication would be awesome, and I think that even if delaying the game is a good thing, they could do a much better job communicating with the fans. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, it is quite possible that there are at least a hundred times more pre-orders (ok, I don't have any proof on this one) than they have QA staff members. Plus, some of pre-orders are also made by professional software testers (like you).
But I have to agree with you that attitude does matter; this may be the reason why the publisher doesn't announce an eta for the beta. It really matters if you play the beta (which ubi believes most people want) or if you actually go bug-hunting (some people are pro exploiters).


Originally posted by roshgar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by decebalusu:
Excuse me?!...Who is saying that being a fan means you have to support a bad attitude from a company?
Look dude, Im playing the series since 1997, but this is not a reason to be obidient to someone, taking their words for anything. Im just a fan of the series and not to the plastic figurines, trailers, pictures on the web-sites.
I/we need to see the mechanics of the game "in work", I wouldnt be satisfied with oppinions from some called interviews about game's strategy etcetera etcetera...Theres only dedicated players who can improve the game by playing it.. So you see now? A BETA is a necessity for fans ASAP, besides this, we got only empty words, pics, pre-ordering options and so on.
If you say you're just fan, like anyone else in here, then you need to reconsider it, else, I really have doubts about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

edit: BTW, working HARDER is not the same with working LONGER :P

I wasn't saying you shouldn't look into it, and the comment wasn't directed at anyone personally because obviously everyone has their own views, there are a lot of people both here - and on the facebook pages whining that they are entitled to a beta because they preordered and because they didnt get beta access like 'originally promised' they have been lied to, betrayed, cheated out of their money ect.

And if you are saying a beta is needed for fans, well its not really....... thats not how beta works, beta is an important phase in a games cycle designed to improve the gameplay, in game production - anything before alpha means the functionality (ie coding, UI , engine that sort of thing)

Beta is the cycle where the game goes (or is supposed to) under the microscope and bugs are picked out, gameplay is fine tuned, art is finalised , and overall polish is added, i know people want beta to 'play' but ... thats really not what beta is for, the fact that they have withheld the beta means they still think there is some more in-house testing they can do before they want to release it to 'us' to look at, the truth about beta is, its a nice look for those of us who cant wait but really what ubisoft (and every company who opens beta testing to the public) hopes for - is a bit of free testing by the masses.

They know we all dont understand the purpose of beta so they will keep an eye on forums for people on the beta complaining/reporting that 'x doesnt work' or 'y is unfinished' ect, and they will go along and fix that in house.

And Cossacking -
Of course, like i said, if you dont like the new world, ashan, i can totally understand that. thats reasonable.
but thing is - someone probably DID force them to announce that it will be out in june, you have to remember behind every game - are the guys who care only about the money, not the game, and they will be announcing deadlines. If you look into the history of might and magic games, this is the exact reason why the original MM series died off in the first place, i saw an interview with jon van caneghem where he mentioned that he was being forced to make the ps2 games instead of continuing his work on the pc franchise, i wont go all the way into it but long story short, the console games were not very good and did not sell well, they ran out of money and went bankrupt. this is just the truth of it, the guys who make the games just make the games... they dont always make the big choices. (link to the interview with jon if you want to look at it http://classic-web.archive.org..._200404/ai_n9515262/ (http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20060322152658/http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdcgw/is_200404/ai_n9515262/) there is another one going into the detail of the 'sales issue.. i'll try and find it and post here if i can )

sorry , not meaning to sound like an ***. just trying to discuss :0 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I have read that article years ago. The main point is that you are confirming scenario 2 (in my thread): publisher demands a release date without wanting to hear any details and announces at once, then, after a talk with the devs, publisher has to do the right thing and set a suitable date.
MISCOMUNICATION.

decebalusu
04-22-2011, 01:19 AM
for our beloved: roshgar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif:

you actually say nothing new in order to debate. Not that Im willing to.
About beta you're saying same things Ive posted already.

Again, they (Ubi& BH) need to do some extra work for the the fans of the series, especially they are not their fans atm. They have to realize we are not content with their "job" on those small dolls and pictures and talks about ashan history http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif.

Alderbranchh
04-22-2011, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by cossacking:

Well, it is quite possible that there are at least a hundred times more pre-orders (ok, I don't have any proof on this one) than they have QA staff members. Plus, some of pre-orders are also made by professional software testers (like you).
But I have to agree with you that attitude does matter; this may be the reason why the publisher doesn't announce an eta for the beta. It really matters if you play the beta (which ubi believes most people want) or if you actually go bug-hunting (some people are pro exploiters).

Do remember that each public beta is never a full game in any way. They have removed maps and stuff, along with modes of gameplay.
That is to prevent it from being cracked to early in the process in order to avoid having it pirated. So this kind of testing is more to see what the public thinks of certain features and to see how many "ooohs" and "ahhhs" they get as opposed to "you sux0rz" comments.
See it as advanced marketing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

One thing worth mentioning here is that many companies have focus-groups, meaning external ppl they hire or who actually volunteer (the latter being more uncommon) from time to time that basically tests their game for them.
That most likely means ubi is or already has recruited this team if they apply that sort of crew to their games.

roshgar
04-22-2011, 03:31 AM
Cossacking, if you meant what i referred to in the first place - sorry, but when you said "nobody forced them to announce the june date' i went and made the assumption you didnt know the difference. theres the trouble with 'debating' on the internet, either way fair enough i dont want to push it any further, if you know what you are on about like you insist, then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif cool, not my problem really http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Again my original post was directed at certain individuals who obviously did not understand the behind the scenes stuff, those who were blindly throwing accusations around and complaining for the sake of complaining , with no real reason.

and Decabalusu..
I like what they've shown us so far, when you say 'we are not content' you have to say 'you are not content' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif there are plenty of people out there who love what they're seeing, often on forums the only people who voice their opinions are the ones who are unhappy about something, i barely post (im still wondering why i bothered in this thread even :P ) but i just felt the need to i guess.

i guess i should just stop reading unofficial threads and keep my nose out of it :P , i know im excited for this, and you guys obviously dont care or 'get' what im trying to say :P.

decebalusu
04-22-2011, 09:10 AM
Im hearing some rumors: close beta started yesterday!!

Im not sure if its true, but may be someone from Blizzard (?!) or a moderator in here may confirm/or not this.

If thats suppose to be so, when an open beta?

KingImp
04-22-2011, 09:58 AM
Silly me for thinking that when we heard this news of it starting on the 20th, that it would include those of us who were promised the Beta with our pre-orders. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

znork
04-22-2011, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by decebalusu:
Im hearing some rumors: close beta started yesterday!!


and where did you hear this rumor?

Fyrestorme
04-22-2011, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by decebalusu:
Im hearing some rumors: close beta started yesterday!!

Im not sure if its true, but may be someone from Blizzard (?!) or a moderator in here may confirm/or not this.

If thats suppose to be so, when an open beta?
wait what does blizzard have to do with this?

decebalusu
04-22-2011, 01:25 PM
well, I was the first to ask http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
True or not?

Thunion
04-22-2011, 01:34 PM
well, I was the first to ask
And?

Alderbranchh
04-22-2011, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by decebalusu:
Im hearing some rumors: close beta started yesterday!!

Im not sure if its true, but may be someone from Blizzard (?!) or a moderator in here may confirm/or not this.

If thats suppose to be so, when an open beta?

I can deny it started.
Why someone from blizzard? They are not involved here...

decebalusu
04-23-2011, 01:58 AM
I didnt say "Blizzard" company somehow involved. But, if you admit you know better and the close beta has not started yet, then you might know better, and Ill take your word as it is.
Anyway, I hope all for the best and more important news.

Happy Easter all of you!

Iglocska
04-23-2011, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Alderbranchh:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by decebalusu:
Im hearing some rumors: close beta started yesterday!!

Im not sure if its true, but may be someone from Blizzard (?!) or a moderator in here may confirm/or not this.

If thats suppose to be so, when an open beta?

I can deny it started.
Why someone from blizzard? They are not involved here... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While at it, any chance of giving us a hint on when it will start? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Alderbranchh
04-23-2011, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Iglocska:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alderbranchh:
I can deny it started.
Why someone from blizzard? They are not involved here...

While at it, any chance of giving us a hint on when it will start? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will look into it. I have no idea myself but ill press the matter with the devs if they are not bound to silence by the marketing dep. Its the latter that has the final say in most productions for most publishers afterall...

Iglocska
04-24-2011, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Alderbranchh:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iglocska:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alderbranchh:
I can deny it started.
Why someone from blizzard? They are not involved here...

While at it, any chance of giving us a hint on when it will start? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will look into it. I have no idea myself but ill press the matter with the devs if they are not bound to silence by the marketing dep. Its the latter that has the final say in most productions for most publishers afterall... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sweet, thanks a lot man http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Tomego
04-24-2011, 07:31 PM
Thank you Alderbranchh for responding to our posts. I feel like the root issue most of the posters have is the lack of communication. Any sort of feedback from the dev team would be greatly appreciated.