Special forces you want involved

[xOcyanideOx]

I would like to see the canadian JTF 2 force involved seeing that on comparison with any other special forces they are equal and some better

[xOcyanideOx]

and on that thought many of the top generals in NATO are canadian and JTF 2 is constantly with american europian stoping what can make a global scale war

[xOcyanideOx]

aslo i would like to see teh american super-elite delta force which is the equivelent of JTF2 and SAS

[john_chi]

I would like to see Delta or JTF2 as well but I think it's pretty much confirmed that GHOST RECON will be the SF unit of the US. Don't know about Europe, I think it might be Rainbow 6, if not then it definately has to be SAS. Spetznas obviously for the Russians.

[Mr.Hanky2005]

I want the U.S. Navy Seals, or Delta.

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

For the Americans, JTF2 and the Ghosts
For the EU, SAS or maybe GSG-9(Or are they only used for Counter-Terrorism??)
Russians, Spetnez(sp??)

I dont think that Rainbow should be for anyone country as they are an international counter-terrorism force. So they deal with Terrorists and they are composed of soldiers from many different nationalities. So giving them to anyone army would be unlikely. But in an interview, Deplater said that you may see some of the Rainbow character be commanders in the game as some have military training. The interview is here: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/19901.html?type=flv

[Jimjemael_796]

Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
For the Americans, JTF2 and the Ghosts
For the EU, SAS or maybe GSG-9(Or are they only used for Counter-Terrorism??)
Russians, Spetnez(sp??)

I dont think that Rainbow should be for anyone country as they are an international counter-terrorism force. So they deal with Terrorists and they are composed of soldiers from many different nationalities. So giving them to anyone army would be unlikely. But in an interview, Deplater said that you may see some of the Rainbow character be commanders in the game as some have military training. The interview is here: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/19901.html?type=flv

Rainbow six have had more european members in the past http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

[AlphaDelta219]

well it seems definite that hte ghosts are there. i dont see more than 1 type of SF unit per faction being added unless they make them tailored for different roles.

[Vth_F_Smith_]

Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
For the EU, SAS or maybe GSG-9(Or are they only used for Counter-Terrorism??) Actually, yes they are. However our KSK (Krisenkommando Spezialkräfte) troops are the (real) equivalent to the (fictional) Ghosts, so I think it would be logical to add them to the game if not even our Kampfschwimmer (which are the equivalent to the Navy Seals) troops! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And I want to see some of Third Echelon's Splinter Cell teams (they could infiltrate a hostile installation and sabotage it) on the US side but then PLEASE with Mr. Fisher's voice over (aka Michael Ironside as the lead character of the Splinter Cell teams). Just imagine, you receive a mission status via radio: "This is Fisher, the charges are in place. Shadownet 1 and 2 have been extracted already. It's up to you Cmdr.! Whenever you're ready...!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Used_Gamertag]

How about the U.S., Mexican(if they arent still pissed at the US for blowing up thier nukes and taking down the rebels from GRAWs 1 & 2) and Canaidain. And on the european side, all of the countries armies that would form a unified single EU army. And also the russian and who ever they are allied with. And also the Ghosts led by Scott Mitchell(if he didn't get killed by the muke blast)

[AlphaDelta219]

Originally posted by Used_Gamertag:
How about the U.S., Mexican(if they arent still pissed at the US for blowing up thier nukes and taking down the rebels from GRAWs 1 & 2) and Canaidain. And on the european side, all of the countries armies that would form a unified single EU army. And also the russian and who ever they are allied with. And also the Ghosts led by Scott Mitchell(if he didn't get killed by the muke blast)

seems unlikely, especially since this game is several years after GRAW 1 and 2. also this game does not make sense in the timeline of the ghost recon series. the US and Russia already have a massive war against eachother. Rainbow and the Ghosts are not in the same universe(unless they just wanna butcher it up, in that case as long as its a fun game i wouldnt care too much)

[Used_Gamertag]

I never played any Rainbow 6 games so I wouldnt know. What I do know is that Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon is in the same universe or at least is to a limited degree. Even though I started playing Ghost Recon when Advanced Warfighter came out, I do know that the missions in SC Chaos Theory's storyline with the sinking of the U.S.S. Clarence E Walsh was major in Ghost Recon 2. Sorry if I am getting a little too off topic.

[AlphaDelta219]

yeah, third echelon is mentioned in graw 2.

the original rainbow six game atleast took place in the jack ryan universe. presumably splinter cell and ghost recon are not in that same universe.

[Used_Gamertag]

I didnt say GRAW 2 even though I have both GRAWs. I meant in Ghost Recon 2 (not Advanced Warfighter 2) that Chaos Theory's storyline is indirectly tied into it. And Third Echelon most likely turned corrupt 4 years earlier in Splinter Cell Conviction with Lambert gone.

[xbox360Rocs]

Dangit you canadiens always want a say eh?

[Da_Costa1982]

Portuguese Commandos or Portuguese Rangers, or even the long-gone-extint-yet-for-the-game-revived PARA-COMMADOS.

French paratroops, and the FFL (french foreign legion with the BAC detachment if i still recall).

(And for some civilian-militarized corps the portuguese GNR National Republican Guard) and the italian "Carabinieri". If those guys got blown up in the game at least I would feel better about those speeding tickets I got! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif but that's besides the point.)

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

Originally posted by xbox360Rocs:
Dangit you canadiens always want a say eh?

First whats that suppose to mean?? Just because we want to be in this game,even if its just one unit! Isnt that much to ask, since they're likely going to have multipul nationalities in the European Enforcers so why not with the JSF.

Update! (thanks for letting me know about the GSG-9)
For the Americans, JTF2 and the Ghosts(since they ghosts have to be in it!)
For the EU, SAS or KSK
Russians, Spetnez

[KJ_White]

well russian spetsnaz aren't going to be a specific unit as they are the russian faction in this game like you have JSF, european enforcers corp. and russsian spetsnaz thats apparently from what interviews are saying is what the 3 factions are.

[dazaw05]

SAS will be the main special forces in europe unless ubisoft put in Rainbow 6 or they could do both. But out of the US, EU and russain special forces i think the SAS would be the best. They go through the roughest training. From sub-zero to over a 100F

[TW_Night_Fox]

I came in here to list the JTF2 but I can see they have been covered... many times. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

[S.V.A.R.O.G.]

Spetsnaz will be in for sure (see Wikipedia), and there is a large variety of different Spetsnaz and Osnaz units to choose from: Alpha, Vympel, Rus, Vityaz, probably OMON (although they are kinda cops, actually).

[tylniles]

i thought the only spec-ops troops were going to be GHOSTS(US) RainbowSix(EU) Spetsnaz(Russia)

but hey just to answer the question i'd say USMC force recon would be cool for US and SAS for EU

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

The ghosts are for sure in it, Rainbow isnt from what i have heard, the members of rainbow are going to generals of different armies. And the spetnez i believe is what the entire Russian army has been dubbed so far but that doesnt really make sense to me as its their special forces not a full blown army force. And im guessing that the SAS is the EU's Special forces unless the UK is apart of the JSF.

[PrinceCaspian5]

Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
The ghosts are for sure in it, Rainbow isnt from what i have heard, the members of rainbow are going to generals of different armies. And the spetnez i believe is what the entire Russian army has been dubbed so far but that doesnt really make sense to me as its their special forces not a full blown army force. And im guessing that the SAS is the EU's Special forces unless the UK is apart of the JSF.
the reason that the entire Russian army is being called spetsnaz is because you are supposed to be commanding those special forces, for Europe it is the European Enforcers, and for the US it is JSF.
as for rainbow, it won't be a special forces unit because it is multinational, some of the members are American

[KJ_White]

if i'm not mistaken the guy who heads up rainbow six is american and some are also israeli from memory, this is in the book by the way not sure about the games.

[PrinceCaspian5]

Originally posted by KJ_White:
if i'm not mistaken the guy who heads up rainbow six is american and some are also israeli from memory, this is in the book by the way not sure about the games.
yes the leadership is American, John Clark is the leader and he is American, and Ding Chavez (anyone who has played a R6 game will know he is one of the team leaders) is American. also, it is funded by the US

[rumsteak]

The first campaign i made in rogue spear ding chavez died=(
The second time i tried, he didn't http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

Originally posted by PrinceCaspian5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
The ghosts are for sure in it, Rainbow isnt from what i have heard, the members of rainbow are going to generals of different armies. And the spetnez i believe is what the entire Russian army has been dubbed so far but that doesnt really make sense to me as its their special forces not a full blown army force. And im guessing that the SAS is the EU's Special forces unless the UK is apart of the JSF.
the reason that the entire Russian army is being called spetsnaz is because you are supposed to be commanding those special forces, for Europe it is the European Enforcers, and for the US it is JSF.
as for rainbow, it won't be a special forces unit because it is multinational, some of the members are American </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i know the spetnez are the special forces and stuff but i dont see WHY you are commanding only special forces in WW3(as the russians that is) as im pretty damn sure that wars are not only waged by the special forces.... so unless something changes in the next 20 years that seems a bit odd to me. And i know Rainbow is not going to be a unit you can get in this game i have said that many times for the reason you have stated... they are an international counter terrorism team not a special forces unit.

[PrinceCaspian5]

Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
i know the spetnez are the special forces and stuff but i dont see WHY you are commanding only special forces in WW3(as the russians that is) as im pretty damn sure that wars are not only waged by the special forces.... so unless something changes in the next 20 years that seems a bit odd to me. And i know Rainbow is not going to be a unit you can get in this game i have said that many times for the reason you have stated... they are an international counter terrorism team not a special forces unit.
i don't know why they are only using special forces in this either, but that is what i have heard. the reason i was talking about rainbow was in the post right before yours someone was saying that rainbow would be the EU's special forces, i wasn't correcting you, i was just too lazy to quote the other post

[S.V.A.R.O.G.]

Actually it's a special Guard Brigade, not the entire Spetsnaz, so, nothng really different from their counterparts.

[Jimjemael_796]

Originally posted by PrinceCaspian5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
i know the spetnez are the special forces and stuff but i dont see WHY you are commanding only special forces in WW3(as the russians that is) as im pretty damn sure that wars are not only waged by the special forces.... so unless something changes in the next 20 years that seems a bit odd to me. And i know Rainbow is not going to be a unit you can get in this game i have said that many times for the reason you have stated... they are an international counter terrorism team not a special forces unit.
i don't know why they are only using special forces in this either, but that is what i have heard. the reason i was talking about rainbow was in the post right before yours someone was saying that rainbow would be the EU's special forces, i wasn't correcting you, i was just too lazy to quote the other post </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought it said somwhere that rainbow became the eu's special unit after all ther have been more europeans in it than any other people, I dunno but I definetly heard it somewhere reliable.

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

there are probibly more europeans in it but it doesnt change the fact that Rainbow is an international counter-terrorism unit, so giving them to one nation would kind of change the international part and the fact that they are for counter-terrorism, would kind of make it weird to then have them as a SF unit.

[commissarmoody]

I don't think it's strange that the Russians are using Spetnas (Spetsialonoye Naznachnie: Special purpose). The honorific doesn't mean they are Special Forces necisauarly.
They just happened to to be there tear 1 best combined arms corp. Just like the JSF is for the US faction and the EU has its Enforcers.
Considering most modern nations are trying to go for a leaner, better trend and equipped force. This makes sense to me. Kind of like how the EU is trying to make the Euro force with Elite rapidly deployable units(notice I did not say special forces even thought they are also tacked on dependent on mission) and the US is has its USMC MUEs, Airborne brigades and the new striker modular brigades.
The Russians could just as easily have one of the many perversely talked about SF units or Vysotniki or Raydoviki. And the EU can pull on its member nation's assets or make up a totally new unit for the game. Just my two cents

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

... i just dont understand WHY they and all the other factions are using their special forces to fight WW3. To me it doesnt make sense, why would a country only send its top soldiers when there are many more at home/ who arent in the SF who are just as capable to fight a war.

[snapkracklepop]

The whole war isn't being fought by SF. It's just your little slice of it.

[rangerette]

My friend did some research and the is what he got on what will be in the game.

JSF: Ghosts
EF: Rainbow 6
Spetznaz Brigade: Unknown

[Tread184]

The Ghost's sound like a good SpecOps force for the U.S. because of their stealthiness but also they seem to be more generally useful in combat then any other U.S. elite force since each one literally seems to specialize in one or two skill's. Even if they are made up, they might be the best choice.
The EU on the other hand, I think the Rainbow Six shouldn't be their SpecOps force, since they are an international counter terrorism unit, and because of the conflict, they might be more inclined to dissolve. Unless, the EU has serious terrorist problems and they adopted the unit, then it might make sense. But I'm sure the SAS couldn't be it, because the UK isn't part of the EU in this game. In that case, it should be the French Foreign Legion (that would be cool, you never hear about them) or a French or German SpecOps team

I hope this was helpful. =P

[tylniles]

ooooh, how about German KSK!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[rangerette]

Originally posted by Tread184:
The Ghost's sound like a good SpecOps force for the U.S. because of their stealthiness but also they seem to be more generally useful in combat then any other U.S. elite force since each one literally seems to specialize in one or two skill's. Even if they are made up, they might be the best choice.
The EU on the other hand, I think the Rainbow Six shouldn't be their SpecOps force, since they are an international counter terrorism unit, and because of the conflict, they might be more inclined to dissolve. Unless, the EU has serious terrorist problems and they adopted the unit, then it might make sense. But I'm sure the SAS couldn't be it, because the UK isn't part of the EU in this game. In that case, it should be the French Foreign Legion (that would be cool, you never hear about them) or a French or German SpecOps team

I hope this was helpful. =P
I agree, Rainbow Six shouldn't be the EF's Special Forces as they are an international counter-terrorism unit that wouldn't work in this situation.

[ImperialDane]

Hjemmeværnet ! our in english words, the homeguard, well not really a special force.. it would be cool for them to be there, no doubt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[mrlespaul]

Kommando Spezialkräfte German special forces http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif