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moonsongv1
03-10-2008, 08:45 AM
First off, I still hold Half Life 2 as the best FPS I ever played. I'm not in a total rush to go out and play the orange box mainly since I'm not a huge death match fan. Also, portal doesn't appeal to me all that much. I have my reasons. However, Half life 2 does. So I gave the game a whirl this weekend. The game still rocks. What makes it really special is the achievments. Why? The achievments in Half Life actually help you develope skills that you use as you play through the game. Believe it or not if you do the achievment tasks you will actually get better at the game.

Out of all the achievments I think the one that I like the most is the single bullet. It's really apparent that the designers wanted you to not use guns in Episode one. Well not the traditional guns anyway. (insert gravity gun here)

Anyway, I often wonder why even play any other game anymore. All the games rip of Half Life 2 anyway. The only thing is the features found in Half Life 2 are done heads above the rest of the games.

Emergent holes- Gears of War, uh uh, try the bug holes in Half Life 2 episode one. Except in this game you use a gun that alters gravity to flip cars over the holes. Opposed to Gears of War where you uh, throw a grenade. I think it's easy to see where the better gameplay is. Unless your 12 and really dumb. Oh, that happens to be the majority of the user base of Gears of War. Oh well.

Anyway, it's so weird that everything in Half Life 2 is in games that are made way after it. It's like the Half Life series is the blue print of all that hallow in the world of FPS. Let me even look at Bio Shock. When I played Bio Shock I was in awe of the way the scenario's were put together. Lol, what a joke. After playing through episode 1 I saw that those scripted scenes in Bio Shock were not really all that original. Plasmids as innovation. How about stealing the gernade from a zombine and blowing up the enemies with it or lighting a zombie on fire with a flare.

Then there is the whole graphic thing. Half Life 2's engine isn't brand new and the graphics still compete with a year of games on the 360 that set records in sales. I haven't even talked about the story or characters. Half Life 2 actally has a story. A real story that is told while playing the game. You don't have to read on the internet for bits and pieces. It's all self contained and right there for you to enjoy without reading a book or going elsewhere. It's all right there.

Sometimes I wonder why I even buy any other games anymore. All your buying are features that were in Half Life 2 and then poorly implemented along with a half developed story. 60 bucks for that? LOL.

Sometimes I wonder. It just seems like the Half Life series is the foundation of the entire industry. I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response, then again maybe not. After a while you start to see what a crock things are and sometimes I think gaming is just one big scam. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

moonsongv1
03-10-2008, 08:45 AM
First off, I still hold Half Life 2 as the best FPS I ever played. I'm not in a total rush to go out and play the orange box mainly since I'm not a huge death match fan. Also, portal doesn't appeal to me all that much. I have my reasons. However, Half life 2 does. So I gave the game a whirl this weekend. The game still rocks. What makes it really special is the achievments. Why? The achievments in Half Life actually help you develope skills that you use as you play through the game. Believe it or not if you do the achievment tasks you will actually get better at the game.

Out of all the achievments I think the one that I like the most is the single bullet. It's really apparent that the designers wanted you to not use guns in Episode one. Well not the traditional guns anyway. (insert gravity gun here)

Anyway, I often wonder why even play any other game anymore. All the games rip of Half Life 2 anyway. The only thing is the features found in Half Life 2 are done heads above the rest of the games.

Emergent holes- Gears of War, uh uh, try the bug holes in Half Life 2 episode one. Except in this game you use a gun that alters gravity to flip cars over the holes. Opposed to Gears of War where you uh, throw a grenade. I think it's easy to see where the better gameplay is. Unless your 12 and really dumb. Oh, that happens to be the majority of the user base of Gears of War. Oh well.

Anyway, it's so weird that everything in Half Life 2 is in games that are made way after it. It's like the Half Life series is the blue print of all that hallow in the world of FPS. Let me even look at Bio Shock. When I played Bio Shock I was in awe of the way the scenario's were put together. Lol, what a joke. After playing through episode 1 I saw that those scripted scenes in Bio Shock were not really all that original. Plasmids as innovation. How about stealing the gernade from a zombine and blowing up the enemies with it or lighting a zombie on fire with a flare.

Then there is the whole graphic thing. Half Life 2's engine isn't brand new and the graphics still compete with a year of games on the 360 that set records in sales. I haven't even talked about the story or characters. Half Life 2 actally has a story. A real story that is told while playing the game. You don't have to read on the internet for bits and pieces. It's all self contained and right there for you to enjoy without reading a book or going elsewhere. It's all right there.

Sometimes I wonder why I even buy any other games anymore. All your buying are features that were in Half Life 2 and then poorly implemented along with a half developed story. 60 bucks for that? LOL.

Sometimes I wonder. It just seems like the Half Life series is the foundation of the entire industry. I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response, then again maybe not. After a while you start to see what a crock things are and sometimes I think gaming is just one big scam. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Spanishdan
03-10-2008, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a huge fan of Halflife. Gives me motion sickness if I play for more than 10 minutes.
Portal was great.
Team Fortress 2 is even better.
Gears of War rocked and can't wait for the new one to come out.
COD4 rocks and Bioshock is genius.
There you have it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Ninja_Raiden
03-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Gaming is full of ideas being recycled? Why did no-one tell me this before? The same could be said for any form of entertainment

But I do think Half Life 2 is an exquisite game for many of the same reasons as yourself. And for Dog

It stands out because of the story it tells in my opinion - it doesn't mean there's not a place for brainless shooters. It also doesn't have any multiplayer mode (including those which use strategy). That isn't a criticism, merely an observation. So it can't be ripped off in that regard

krubble
03-10-2008, 10:33 AM
Yes, I totally agree. Halflife 2 is far ahead in game design. It's the most realistic game I've ever played. Talk about being in the middle of the actual action! This game pulls you in and you feel like you actually talk to the actors and that they can actually see you! It felt like watching a DVD and acting inside it!

Don't even compare it to Gears of War which had terrible graphics and pretty dumb characters, and it was not even first person (blah).

A game like this doesn't need multiplayer. It teaches you to actually interact with the AI characters and get involved into the story, instead of just running around an shooting. Most other games live of the multiplayer because they just don't really offer much of a story in their single player campaign.

The Valve people are simply geniuses, and we can be sure that everything that will come from them will be a blast!

While Portal is not everyones taste, it is a genius game. It's nice to see that some game developers actually put some brain into their games, and not just try to follow the trend in order to make big bucks (Halo).

It's also nice to see that there are other gamers who appreciate well made games, not just trendy games.

mcmax3000
03-10-2008, 10:36 AM
I had trouble getting past the part of your post where you said you didn't like Portal...

I didn't think that was humanly possible.

dropK1CK_ninJA
03-10-2008, 11:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spanishdan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a huge fan of Halflife. Gives me motion sickness if I play for more than 10 minutes.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You too? Man I thought I was just an odd ball for that problem. The first game I used to have to lay down afterwards.

HL2 is not all that original in mechanics. FPS in general build off of one another. If anything is considered original I'd go with Wolfenstein 3D. That was the all original FPS. Doom made it popular.

Slickrick2345
03-10-2008, 12:17 PM
Wolfenstein 3d FTW!

Ninja Kn1ght
03-10-2008, 12:19 PM
I find HL2 pretty boring. I've played through most of it but it doesn't grab me.

ShadowSkullV5
03-10-2008, 01:05 PM
Bioshock was a waste of 30 bucks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ghengis_John
03-10-2008, 01:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
Sometimes I wonder. It just seems like the Half Life series is the foundation of the entire industry. I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response, then again maybe not. After a while you start to see what a crock things are and sometimes I think gaming is just one big scam. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're like five right?

Y_HELO_BEAR
03-10-2008, 03:12 PM
hating portal?

and bioshock was a waste of money?

jesus...this forum is overrun with ******s.

l337pino
03-10-2008, 03:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
Anyway, I often wonder why even play any other game anymore. All the games rip of Half Life 2 anyway. The only thing is the features found in Half Life 2 are done heads above the rest of the games.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh man. What you really mean to say is that the video game industry is nothing but recucled ideas from...*drumroll*...D&D. Yeah, that's right. I went there (even though I don't even play the game, I acknowledge the roots that modern games have within this geeky realm.

Oh, and who cares if ideas are recycled. Recycling != complete ripoff. Many games implement an idea with their own twists.

ShadowSkullV5
03-10-2008, 03:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Y_HELO_BEAR:
and bioshock was a waste of money?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has the same tastes in media genre. If you haven't known that by now then I guess we know who's the real ****** here.

Brofase
03-10-2008, 04:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Y_HELO_BEAR:
and bioshock was a waste of money?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has the same tastes in media genre. If you haven't known that by now then I guess we know who's the real ****** here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, if you didn't like Portal and Bioshock you're pretty much fundamentally wrong.

Phineas1382
03-10-2008, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brofase:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Y_HELO_BEAR:
and bioshock was a waste of money?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has the same tastes in media genre. If you haven't known that by now then I guess we know who's the real ****** here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, if you didn't like Portal and Bioshock you're pretty much fundamentally wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nod to that. What it really means is that if you don't like Bioshock or Portal then creativity frightens and confuses you.

ShadowSkullV5
03-10-2008, 04:17 PM
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Brofase
03-10-2008, 04:19 PM
Wrong.

Spanishdan
03-10-2008, 11:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
Not everyone has the same tastes in media genre. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you have to appreciate a game for what it is. Even if you don't like the genre. I hate realistic driving games but you have to admit, Forza 2 is well made game. Hate it to bits, but it's very well made for it's kind.

Saying Bioshock was a waste of $$$ is like saying COD4 was a waste as well. For FPS, you don't get too many that compete... Yet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Ghengis_John
03-11-2008, 12:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since when was art-deco or soviet russia pre 20th century? You totally didn't pick up on the 1950's style commercialism? The neo-perceptual diatribe into Ann Rand's theorems on the nature of altruism and the impact of personal motivations on the individual and society? I feel sorry for you sir. Next you'll tell me you couldn't appreciate a play featuring men dancing for a robot's love, futuristic lasers and a dehydrating manatee.

MusicDan
03-11-2008, 05:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dropK1CK_ninJA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spanishdan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a huge fan of Halflife. Gives me motion sickness if I play for more than 10 minutes.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You too? Man I thought I was just an odd ball for that problem. The first game I used to have to lay down afterwards.

HL2 is not all that original in mechanics. FPS in general build off of one another. If anything is considered original I'd go with Wolfenstein 3D. That was the all original FPS. Doom made it popular. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You three I thought it was just me, omg i felt sick well trying to play it on the original XBox, I'm hoping I wont find the Orange box version so bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif .

As for best games personaly I liked HL2 a lot but I always felt Halo CE was better because it wasn't scripted/on rails, every time you played/replayed a lveel or encounter it evolved differently, a shear number of ways you could play through sections of Halo CE was quite amazing... to be fair I've yet to play a game with better AI *sigh*. I'm looking forward to trying BioShock though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Ninja_Raiden
03-11-2008, 05:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, 19th century is pre-20th century

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MusicDan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dropK1CK_ninJA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spanishdan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a huge fan of Halflife. Gives me motion sickness if I play for more than 10 minutes.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You too? Man I thought I was just an odd ball for that problem. The first game I used to have to lay down afterwards.

HL2 is not all that original in mechanics. FPS in general build off of one another. If anything is considered original I'd go with Wolfenstein 3D. That was the all original FPS. Doom made it popular. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You three I thought it was just me, omg i felt sick well trying to play it on the original XBox, I'm hoping I wont find the Orange box version so bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif .

As for best games personaly I liked HL2 a lot but I always felt Halo CE was better because it wasn't scripted/on rails, every time you played/replayed a lveel or encounter it evolved differently, a shear number of ways you could play through sections of Halo CE was quite amazing... to be fair I've yet to play a game with better AI *sigh*. I'm looking forward to trying BioShock though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You'll probably have motion sickness on this version as well - it is the same game after all

The enemy AI in Halo was indeed brilliant; the ally AI on the other hand...

You haven't played BioShock yet?! Well what are you doing here? Go and play it now!

DocHolidazed
03-11-2008, 05:38 AM
Hmmm. Nothing wrong with having your own opinion on what you feel is a good game. Everyone is different.

What I didn't really care for, is how you want to berate people who like other games for their own reasons. I don't see the point? You yourself are acting like a young timmy or worse. I laughed at how you put yourself right in the class you tried to name. Nice job. Name calling is for the weak.

-Bioshock is an amazing game. The complete package. Story, Soundtrack, Shooter. Had it all.
-GOW wasn't perfect, but it to is a damn good game. GOW2 is going to be amazing.
-COD4 is a great game as well.
-As far as 'The Orange Box' is concerned. Portal was by far an innovation and well thought out game. A challenge of the mind. Superb. Team Fortress as spectacular. In my camp, I rank both of those above HL2.

MusicDan
03-11-2008, 05:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ninja_Raiden:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, 19th century is pre-20th century

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MusicDan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dropK1CK_ninJA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spanishdan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I'm sure some idiot our there will make a response </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a huge fan of Halflife. Gives me motion sickness if I play for more than 10 minutes.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You too? Man I thought I was just an odd ball for that problem. The first game I used to have to lay down afterwards.

HL2 is not all that original in mechanics. FPS in general build off of one another. If anything is considered original I'd go with Wolfenstein 3D. That was the all original FPS. Doom made it popular. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You three I thought it was just me, omg i felt sick well trying to play it on the original XBox, I'm hoping I wont find the Orange box version so bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif .

As for best games personaly I liked HL2 a lot but I always felt Halo CE was better because it wasn't scripted/on rails, every time you played/replayed a lveel or encounter it evolved differently, a shear number of ways you could play through sections of Halo CE was quite amazing... to be fair I've yet to play a game with better AI *sigh*. I'm looking forward to trying BioShock though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You'll probably have motion sickness on this version as well - it is the same game after all

The enemy AI in Halo was indeed brilliant; the ally AI on the other hand...

You haven't played BioShock yet?! Well what are you doing here? Go and play it now! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dam.. oh well I was hoping it was partialy framerate related and that going to HD/better frame rate would help.

As for BioShock I guess I will just have to dive in sometime, bettween H3 training http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

dropK1CK_ninJA
03-11-2008, 05:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ninja_Raiden:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, 19th century is pre-20th century

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1950's occured during the 20th century. We are in the 21st century right now.

At 0 A.D. we began the 1st century. At 1000 A.D. we ended the 1st century and entered into the 2nd century. Hence all centuries are really our current century plus one.

So if Bioshock were this pre-20th century game or 19th century game it'd be set in the Wild West!

DocHolidazed
03-11-2008, 05:50 AM
Why are people overthinking the story or make-up of bioshock? If your that narrowminded. Give up playing games as a whole. Really.

moonsongv1
03-11-2008, 08:40 AM
Well I got the achievment I was seeking. One Free Bullet. I really enjoyed this one. I ended up using the bullet to break the lock on a gate. My life has come full circle now. I played through a FPS with only firing one shot from a firearm.

*The other thing that actually made me laugh was in Half Life 2, the play ground. There was this little one armed baby. Every time you picked up the doll it went waaaaa. In the playground there is a see-saw. I put the doll on one end then dropped a cement block on the other end. The baby flew up in the air then landed on the ground. My life is complete now. Lolllllllllllllllll. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I guess the only other thing is to listen to the dev commentary. Hmm, let me think about all the other games that have that cool feature. My mind seems to have drawn a blank. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I guess I could play portal. I just don't want to play as a female character.

XBLirael
03-11-2008, 12:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moonsongv1:
I guess I could play portal. I just don't want to play as a female character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I am just... speechless.

As for the rest of it, I agree with respecting great art, even if it doesn't suit my tastes.

And I'm still giggling about the century mix-up. I used to get confused by the whole 1900s/20th century thing too. Until high school or something, when I forced myself to learn it the right way. Now the idea of BioShock being a 19th century story is just plain kooky.

l337pino
03-11-2008, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ghengis_John:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadowSkullV5:
I just don't like the 19th to pre-20th century technology portrayed in the game and how player models act like basic ragdolls with blood that spurts out of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since when was art-deco or soviet russia pre 20th century? You totally didn't pick up on the 1950's style commercialism? The neo-perceptual diatribe into Ann Rand's theorems on the nature of altruism and the impact of personal motivations on the individual and society? I feel sorry for you sir. Next you'll tell me you couldn't appreciate a play featuring men dancing for a robot's love, futuristic lasers and a dehydrating manatee. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, it is set in the 1950s culture, but the technology throughout the game is generally considered to be steampunk or resembling that of steampunk (which is pseudo-19th century tech). It's almost as if the developers were like: "Hey, steampunk is sick. Let's imagine a 1950s where steampunk continued from the 19th century and developed in this communism conflicted world."

Oh, and Ghengis, I think you meant to say "Ayn Rand." I always loved her book, Anthem, even though she was so strongly against communism and its ideals.

ShadowSkullV5
03-11-2008, 03:50 PM
Well thanks to everyone here I now hate Bioshock even more. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ninja_Raiden:
Um, 19th century is pre-20th century </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

......technology/culture doesn't just change instantly.

19th century to pre-20th century: the age before it fully becomes the 20th century or in much easier terms, a few years before the end of the 19th century. -_-

I'm done in this thread. You can all reply all you want, I just won't be reading them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

moonsongv1
03-12-2008, 08:36 AM
Shrug, what I originally wanted to get across(one person in this entire thread actually can read apparently) was thoughts on the design of the game. There is also another element that Half Life has and that is the amount of positive emotions that it gives to the gamer. If you can't get a twinge of emotion from driving the most *****in car I've ever seen in a fps with a hot babe in the passenger seat then your not alive. I felt like I was 16 again.

*and how can you forget the gnome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11_Z0rS0tc&feature=related

Umm, little rocket man vs seriously? Hmm, I know who wins every time.

http://www.jessture.com/MySpace/gnome_reads_rc.jpg

Ninja_Raiden
03-12-2008, 08:43 AM
Wait, you weren't also arguing about how other FPSs rip-off many of the features in the game? Guess I must've misunderstood...

I agreed with you that it is an incredible game. Did you not read that?

dropK1CK_ninJA
03-12-2008, 08:46 AM
Wait!

Come on.


If you wanted hot babes in your FPS, Duke Nukem 3D beat Half-Life 2 to the punch.

DocHolidazed
03-12-2008, 08:49 AM
What he meant to say was that there was only one person in here that actually agreed with him. Which is fine. No one actually dissagreed with the fact that HL2 was good. However. Singling it out as the one that created all things in fps is just an opinion based on preference. Not only that. It would seem his preference is based on the achievement system for the game. Not really the game itself. From what I'm reading, without the achievement set up. He wouldn't know where to start in the game, or how really to play it to it's full potential. Give Ms credit for creating the tool that guided you.

moonsongv1
03-12-2008, 08:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dropK1CK_ninJA:
Wait!

Come on.


If you wanted hot babes in your FPS, Duke Nukem 3D beat Half-Life 2 to the punch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

True Duke has the babes but they are kind of just there. The interactivity of episode 1 and 2 with the npc's is really nothing short of incredible.

moonsongv1
03-12-2008, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DocHolidazed:
What he meant to say was that there was only one person in here that actually agreed with him. Which is fine. No one actually dissagreed with the fact that HL2 was good. However. Singling it out as the one that created all things in fps is just an opinion based on preference. Not only that. It would seem his preference is based on the achievement system for the game. Not really the game itself. From what I'm reading, without the achievement set up. He wouldn't know where to start in the game, or how really to play it to it's full potential. Give Ms credit for creating the tool that guided you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, no I actually have Half Life 2 for my pc and have played it many times before the 360. Honestly, your very ignorant and if I may speak honestly an *******.

I think I'll name my gnome Doc Holidaze and blast him into space. Then I can hope some angry alien goes all medievil on your ***.
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/810/8...802003723938-000.jpg (http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/810/810124/mass-effect-20070802003723938-000.jpg)

DocHolidazed
03-12-2008, 08:57 AM
Just basing my comments on your initial post.

I can break it down to the fact that you like the game based on the ability to achieve something. Where as, in other games. You can't. You fail. Get mad and then decide to hate the game in response. Alot of people do that. If the can't succeed playing a game. Then they hate. It's simple.

Glad to see I could piss you off. Amused that it bothers you that much that you would honor me with a blast off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif And Moon. I'll leave you alone. It seems you can't handle it.

moonsongv1
03-12-2008, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DocHolidazed:
Just basing my comments on your initial post.

I can break it down to the fact that you like the game based on the ability to achieve something. Where as, in other games. You can't. You fail. Get mad and then decide to hate the game in response. Alot of people do that. If the can't succeed playing a game. Then they hate. It's simple. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I like Half Life 2 before the fact that there were achievments. The first time I played through it I was like wow. This is a few years back. The achievment's really do point out things you might have missed the first go around. For instance, the little rocket gnome. In all honesty if that achievment wasn't listed I would never have thought to do that.

Anyway, there was another game that had some great achievments, Crackdown. But back to the Half Life 2 achievments. I honestly wouldn't have gone back and played the game again and had as much fun. It's all that positive thought thing I was talking about. When I played the original I remember goofing around with the dog ball in the basket but I thought no big deal. The little achievment thing kind of just throws some sort of order and goals to accomplish. Anyway, let me just say with the achievments and dev commentary available in Half Life 2 I was able to work some things out on a personal level that helped me out a great deal.

*@Doc- sorry about snapping-that was uncalled for.


*I think I really need to say all I need in my own thread. So I'll finish up with basically I'm still in awe of Half Life 2.

*In all honesty, if the achievments helped me out then ya know what great. The freakin game was made by collective minds. Not some bull **** about one guy and all this junk. So good god the game better blow your mind.

dropK1CK_ninJA
03-12-2008, 10:15 AM
The only game that ever put me in awe and kept me there the entire game was Xenogears.


To this day, that game still pops into my head foundly all the time.

DocHolidazed
03-12-2008, 11:10 AM
I think it's interesting how people have different traits on what draws them to really be immersed in a game. Maybe not just one thing. It could be a couple. Usually there are one or two standout reasons.

Got me to thinking about what was one of the very first games to really pull me in. It was easy.

Resident Evil. I'll never forget how I actually had this erie sort of chill when I first played it. I know a few people here who have played the RE series can relate to what I mean.

Ghengis_John
03-12-2008, 05:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:
Oh, and Ghengis, I think you meant to say "Ayn Rand." I always loved her book, Anthem, even though she was so strongly against communism and its ideals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was one of those things. You know, you think "should I goggle that to be sure? ... nah, I don't have to.". It always turns out you should have googled.

-Google, Be a geni<STRIKE>o</STRIKE>us at everything.

l337pino
03-12-2008, 11:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ghengis_John:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:
Oh, and Ghengis, I think you meant to say "Ayn Rand." I always loved her book, Anthem, even though she was so strongly against communism and its ideals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was one of those things. You know, you think "should I goggle that to be sure? ... nah, I don't have to.". It always turns out you should have googled.

-Google, Be a geni<STRIKE>o</STRIKE>us at everything. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Haha, yeah. If only jobs interviews were done online. I would look so good every time...

moonsongv1
03-13-2008, 08:31 AM
I went for the little rocket man achievment and ran into brain hemmorage problems. I play through some of the game carrying this damn gnome everywhere when I decide to put him down. Then the game glitches and the gnome gets stuck to the ground. So I said is this really fun, carrying the gnome around. I thought no and stopped playing. Now I'll put away Half Life 2 for another year or until episode 3 rolls around. It's kind of good now that I have condemned 2. Not a bad game, condemend 2, if you like to beat people up anyway. Even with all the beatings it still makes you think with the forensics. Plus some of the enemies look like the tar man.

http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v139/ddssw/Doppelga...%20Brains/tarman.jpg (http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v139/ddssw/DoppelgangerDS/Send%20more%20Brains/tarman.jpg)

Well kind of anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

*Note on condemned black out sequences. What really goes on while Ethan is blacked out as you fight through **** laced walls and other **** that have hanging nut sacks on the ceiling. Then you wake up and some dude is teabagging you. Only to finish a round with the amount of sacks busted as a stat. That kind of makes you mentally vomit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif