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keit-x_x
02-19-2005, 10:22 AM
Sams model looks great and all, animation are perfect BUT. his facial expressions are freaking me out. Like lets say if theres a guard and u start to walk backwards his eyes bulges out. yes i know thats either a scared or surpised look but it just doesnt look that good.

Sam looks completely different then the other 2, its strange but he actually looks VERY scary rather then calm. So give me ur thoughts.

keit-x_x
02-19-2005, 10:22 AM
Sams model looks great and all, animation are perfect BUT. his facial expressions are freaking me out. Like lets say if theres a guard and u start to walk backwards his eyes bulges out. yes i know thats either a scared or surpised look but it just doesnt look that good.

Sam looks completely different then the other 2, its strange but he actually looks VERY scary rather then calm. So give me ur thoughts.

SikoraB
02-19-2005, 10:45 AM
I think he sometimes look cross eyed, and it looks funny when he's scared... I think he has a mean, killer look... Much more rugged!

steath_ninja
02-19-2005, 04:23 PM
hes not suposed to be nice kids

Toshi_
02-19-2005, 04:41 PM
well... I don't have the demo (yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif ), so my opinion is based on the screens and videos...
and:
Sam's gotten UGLY!! he's really ugly!
in SC1 he looked, well... nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
in PT I liked his wet-style haircut http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
but in CT... O... M... G... !!! (read: Aawwww Myyyy Gaaawwd... I just looove Janice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )
and the weird part: he looks even younger than in SC1 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
well, but I have to admit: a LOT more brutal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

simulacra
02-19-2005, 04:41 PM
Actually he does look kinda fish-eyed sometimes...

Gangxta123
02-19-2005, 04:47 PM
well hes aging what u expect

Secret_Shadow13
02-19-2005, 04:51 PM
WOW agly how can you tell unless your gay? really i have no opininons sin ce i like woman but judjing mans look is just really stupid to me...

quillan
02-19-2005, 07:18 PM
I've figured out why Sam's facial expressions seem wierd. He's walleyed. Look

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/44/44709/pages/110534/WalleyeSam.jpg

His right eye is looking straight ahead and down, like the left eye is looking down and slightly to his left.

Doppelgofer
02-19-2005, 07:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Secret_Shadow13:
WOW agly how can you tell unless your gay? really i have no opininons sin ce i like woman but judjing mans look is just really stupid to me... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i'm guessing you lived out at sea and because you'd lived out there for so long, you made personal friends with the sea and give him or her a pet name...but after a while, you fell out and the waves kept crashing against your boat whispering ****** every 3 seconds...

eventually, you came back to land after 3 months of sea aggro and it has somehow made you a true ******ed 13 year old in your mind

good luck with that

ChaosTheory13
02-19-2005, 07:38 PM
i love his new look...hes got that evil look that freaks everyone out... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The-Stealth
02-19-2005, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doppelgofer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Secret_Shadow13:
WOW agly how can you tell unless your gay? really i have no opininons sin ce i like woman but judjing mans look is just really stupid to me... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i'm guessing you lived out at sea and because you'd lived out there for so long, you made personal friends with the sea and give him or her a pet name...but after a while, you fell out and the waves kept crashing against your boat whispering ****** every 3 seconds...

eventually, you came back to land after 3 months of sea aggro and it has somehow made you a true ******ed 13 year old in your mind

good luck with that <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

roflmfao http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif i was just about to ask if he wuz a 10 yr old

chaos_theory16
02-19-2005, 09:53 PM
Will they fix that problem. Where his eyes buldge out like that. Unless he's like those people that make there eyes come half-way outta their head (seen it on Geunis World Records http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif).

Desert Hawk
02-19-2005, 09:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The-Stealth:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doppelgofer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Secret_Shadow13:
WOW agly how can you tell unless your gay? really i have no opininons sin ce i like woman but judjing mans look is just really stupid to me... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i'm guessing you lived out at sea and because you'd lived out there for so long, you made personal friends with the sea and give him or her a pet name...but after a while, you fell out and the waves kept crashing against your boat whispering ****** every 3 seconds...

eventually, you came back to land after 3 months of sea aggro and it has somehow made you a true ******ed 13 year old in your mind

good luck with that <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

roflmfao http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif i wuz just about to ask if he wuz a 10 yr old <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Coming from someone who can't spell 'was'. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Secret Shadow was probably directing his comment at someone who deleted their post.

As for Sam's face, its because the original artist who drew Sam (Martin Caya) didn't work on CT, and i imagine it has something to do with the normal mapping they've implimented.

Secret_Shadow13
02-19-2005, 10:06 PM
Very funny and i can spell i just dont have time to check my spelling sorry to say but this forum seems to be full of aholes and gay people and sea guy please that was just lame and not a bit funny and you are the 10 year old one so shut up... and yeah who ****ing cares how he looks? I dont maybe you do when youl be imagining sucking hes pixel di@k! in your head... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif get a life seaboy.. BTW: im 23 and i was only saying this to a sea person... and yes he does look freaky and scary in a funny way... and i ony made my first post because i saw a post saying this: i could **** him anytime of a day he is so sexy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif yea and thats why i posted my first post so sorry that i didnt make it clear the first time... and i dont have anything to say against how he looks by facial expressions only how atrective he is i just cant stand those kind of posts, and that was the only reason i went of for the first time and its funny since im the only person who had time to read that post...

cellfan88
02-19-2005, 10:44 PM
(Quote) Coming from someone who can't spell 'was'. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Secret Shadow was probably directing his comment at someone who deleted their post.

As for Sam's face, its because the original artist who drew Sam (Martin Caya) didn't work on CT, and i imagine it has something to do with the normal mapping they've implimented.[/QUOTE]

Yup, those are the two reasons. Normal mapping and a different designer.
I hope that in future sc's that that will being back Martin Caya, IMO Sam just doesnt look like Sam in SC3. I mean the voice is obviously there,(Michael Ironside) but he just doesnt look at all what he used to.

zephyrus17
02-19-2005, 11:19 PM
I find his face a very blockyish detailed face.. To me, his face looked very grim and, somewhat mutated.. I believe I had a thread addressing this, uh, face issue after I saw one of the SCCT videos. His SC3 face reminds me somehow of Hitman, the very brutal and cruel face. I definately liked his SC2 face more.. It has a nobel, purposeful and kinda compassionate face.. A face to me, that says "respectful man that is out to help"

c_f_logan
02-20-2005, 01:21 AM
Good point, but after spending one's adult life doing what he done...I'd imagine anyone's face would be cold and calculating like his.

Secret_Shadow13
02-20-2005, 01:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by c_f_logan:
Good point, but after spending one's adult life doing what he done...I'd imagine anyone's face would be cold and calculating like his. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL good point and if you read a book you can see thats its not easy to be him..

zephyrus17
02-20-2005, 02:24 AM
I know.. But he's not supposed to be evil looking and wicked looking and grotesque looking and stuff.. Look at the picture of him above: the details for each part is done quite well, like the nose, chin, eye.. But, when you put them together, they don't fit and look good. Not good at all. His character features(to me), seem more like a person who has no choice to kill those terrorists and etc. not a face where he seems happy to kill.. He's an ex-SEAL, not a psychotic mass serial murderer.. To me, the face just doesn't suit him. Not at all.

SplinterCell_37
02-20-2005, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChaosTheory13:
i love his new look...hes got that evil look that freaks everyone out... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Doppelgofer
02-20-2005, 07:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>and sea guy please that was just lame and not a bit funny <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

AHAAAAAAA!!!!!!! iam SEA GUY

a man on the edge
no holds barred
emotionless and cold
i listen to the jelly fish
and express their concerns...

to the GOVERNMENT

back on topic....

yes

....yes i agree


...somehow

Secret_Shadow13
02-20-2005, 08:41 AM
What? and what do you want from me my first post was directed to somebody who eraised theirs.... So stop the flaming..

The-Stealth
02-20-2005, 12:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Secret_Shadow13:
What? and what do you want from me my first post was directed to somebody who eraised theirs.... So stop the flaming.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

o sry i thought u were calling the topic starter gay for no reason, like a ten yr old. i didnt know u could delete posts.