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shazrak
03-27-2006, 07:14 PM
So I have just begun watching this game closely in high hopes that it will be everything it seems to promise. I really can't wait for a demo, new info, and especially a solid release date!

One thing I am a little confused of though...

In nearly all the videos for the game I have seen I see the soldiers using the XM8. Some of you may know what this is and some may not. Its a new high tech assult rifle which may in the near future be replacing the m16. Well I looked at the game info and the weapons list. Only a day or two ago it only had two weapons listed and obviously wasn't finished, but now the list has been expanded to show a wide variety of more weapons. Yet I don't see the XM8 included. I was really looking forward to shooting that weapon. I sure hope they just haven't finished listing all of the weapons avaialable! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

shazrak
03-27-2006, 07:14 PM
So I have just begun watching this game closely in high hopes that it will be everything it seems to promise. I really can't wait for a demo, new info, and especially a solid release date!

One thing I am a little confused of though...

In nearly all the videos for the game I have seen I see the soldiers using the XM8. Some of you may know what this is and some may not. Its a new high tech assult rifle which may in the near future be replacing the m16. Well I looked at the game info and the weapons list. Only a day or two ago it only had two weapons listed and obviously wasn't finished, but now the list has been expanded to show a wide variety of more weapons. Yet I don't see the XM8 included. I was really looking forward to shooting that weapon. I sure hope they just haven't finished listing all of the weapons avaialable! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

TedSmith
03-27-2006, 07:27 PM
I'm not an authority by any means, but last I heard the XM8 was scrapped/denied due to some reliability issues.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">XM8 status update (September 2005): Following several complains about non-competitive procurement of the XM8 system from Heckler-Koch USA, US Army first opened the bidding for contract to other companies, and then, in the July 2005, suddenly suspended the entire OICW Increment 1 program to re-think the entire set of requirements for the possible replacement of current M16 rifles and M4 carbines. These requirements will be re-viewed as Joint Services effort. At the present time, it seems that development of HK XM8 is suspended; it may be resumed if XM8 suit the new US Joint Service Requirements for a new assault rifle system; or, it may not. We will watch this process closely and update this article when new information will be available. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Source (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The XM8 program was cancelled in fall 2005 after being suspended earlier in the year. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wikipedia Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM8#Adoption_status)

Some people are speculating that the SCAR may end up as it's replacement, if a shift is made at all in the near future. I'm sure H&K has some other weapon on the fast design track to correct whatever issues that they found with the XM8, too.

neo8185
03-27-2006, 08:37 PM
its there the new screens show it. Im hoping to god that gun is in the final. I like it, it looks hot. If its not thats one dissappointment towards the game for me.

Chris_448
03-27-2006, 09:47 PM
as far as i know these are the weapons:
XM8
Scar-L
Scar-H
Crye-M
Mk49?? I think, I am always bad at remembering LMGs
some sniper rifle
MP5
M-9
Gloch-if I spelled it right, I'm not sure what typre of Gloch they have
XM8 compact
and others...

Feel free to correct me

Urban-Violence
03-27-2006, 11:45 PM
For the last time the XM8 was CANCELLED. It failed the last round of department of defense testing, which if I'm remembering right was the stress tests. It proved to be too light for its own good, and prone to breaking under sustained fire. So with the contract gone HK scrapped the gun, besides the XM8 was just a freakin G36 series rifle with a new shell.

Good riddance to the fish gun, now can we stop putting the damned thing in video games?

capteenix
03-28-2006, 03:19 AM
who cares? the gun is in the game

ZeN1985
03-28-2006, 03:59 AM
XM8 - stylish, but very weak weapon. AK better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Striker_1991
03-28-2006, 07:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...
So with the contract gone HK scrapped the gun, besides the XM8 was just a freakin G36 series rifle with a new shell.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The contractor was Alliant Techsystems Co of USA not HK defense direct. And yes it is a G36 derivate with problems the G36 not have. Because someone want a new weapon with more plastic not just the proved G36...
So the G36 goes to US law enforcement and for all I could read the like the freakin gun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cirap
03-28-2006, 08:35 AM
http://www.ghostrecon.com/ss/GRAW_PC_SP_223.jpg

chilly-willy
03-28-2006, 11:03 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Darn! I thought the XM8 was a great idea and quite cool looking. I hadn't heard it was scrapped.... That stinks! First my Comanche got the axe and now this, I have no cool military tech to look forward to now.

Anyone know why the gov decided to re-evaluate the requirements? Could it be all the battle experiance the troops have at the moment? Or maybe... if it aint broke dont fix it.

Malleus.
03-28-2006, 11:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ZeN1985:
XM8 - stylish, but very weak weapon. AK better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha, well said. But anyway, I won't be outraged if the gun does appear in GR3. I'm all for authenticity, but it's just a game after all - and I still have the right not to use it. Maybe it's the only chance for us to "fire" this gun after all...

chaos_dennis
03-28-2006, 12:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ZeN1985:
XM8 - stylish, but very weak weapon. AK better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Got that righT!!

Cirap
03-28-2006, 01:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Or maybe... if it aint broke dont fix it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still think the US Army is still looking for something that packs a litte more punch than todays .223 (5.56mm). IIRC, they have been looking at the HK468, which basically is an M4 chamebered for 6.8mm ammo, and there's always the SCAR-H

ZeN1985
03-28-2006, 01:17 PM
I will not cry if there wont be XM8, but still, its better, when ingame enought weapons to satisfy our eqipment appitie, so, developers, one's again making mistake, removing such a stylish and good-looking weapon from the game. Even though it'
s not high damage weapon, in good hands it can become in very dangerous weapon for enemy.

claybillings
03-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Whats the MC-R all about, I had never heard of it or seen it before seeing screens in GRAW. Whats it a variant of, who designed it, and is it actually in use or is it one of the production weapons still in testing.

Double-S-
03-28-2006, 02:59 PM
I wouldn't care either way if they have it in the game or scrapped it (although all signs point to it being included), because the game takes place in the future. Maybe the fixed the problems. Although I don't see why it would still be called XM.

I'm more worried about the apparent lack of a .45 calibur sidearm.

AlphaDelta219
03-28-2006, 04:44 PM
The MR-C(Modular rifle - Caseless) is rifle-carbine that fires 6.8mm caseless rounds. Almost nothing has been released other than that. It is the size of an MP-5.

XM-8 is most likely NEVER going to come back. If anything the SCAR might get issued to everyone(M-4a1 was originally for SF and those who didnt need a full sized rifle. now everyones got em)

chaos_dennis
03-28-2006, 06:45 PM
i though scar already past!? I saw pictures of navy seals, and they had them!