All-round POP discussion thread!!

[dragons292010]

It's main intention is to freely discuss about any POP without any discrimination. But the main rule is not to go off topic to much a extent.

Here u go guys!!

[blueobelix]

inb4 kaileena, dahaka, dark prince, PoP KB vs PoP 2008

[LoryBlackWolf]

I've start to play Warrior Within just yesterday. The first thing that came in my mind when I saw the loading screen with that bleeding emblem was "Oh my god, this is Prince of Silent Hil!!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[yavanna_1986]

Just now?! *gasps in shock*

Warrior Within is and will forever be my favorite POP game. I mean sure, it had its flaws, but it was still an incredibly awesome game. I almost feel like playing it again, it certainly brings back memories just talking about it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

*waits for the SOT fanboys to jump at her throat*

[LoryBlackWolf]

I know, I'm late. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif PoP2008 is always my favourite, but the atmospheres of WW are just incredible, perfect for a movie. And I'm still at the beginning. XD

Talking about PoP2008... am I the only one who thinks that the prototype outfits (http://thehardcoregamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/popsprototype-skin.jpg) are simply... horrible? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Ok, Elika is half nude and I'm sure the fanboys whould love this, but that white hairs are just terrible, it's too far from the persian style. And the Prince in gray it's sad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[yavanna_1986]

Then enjoy it and we'll talk again after you're done with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I'm not sure if you know but I'll say it anyway. WW has 2 endings so try to get all the life upgrades to get the ending that was later used in T2T.

The guy looks horrible but at least Elika has shoes, lol. The red jacket thing on her doesn't look that bad, I kind of like it.

[AuroreNouveau]

Yeah, I wasn't really a fan of the prototype designs, either. In fact, the only thing I like is the fact that Elika has shoes... And her jacket is kinda cool. And I do like the blue accents in the Prince's clothes, but over all, they're really not that great. I'm glad they opted for more color, although in the official designs now, Elika has less color in her outfit than she did to begin with.

[Michae_lol]

What's wrong of being barefoot (except of terrible injuries after sliding on some platforms which (injuries) Elika can miraculuously avoid).

[neji_888]

prince of persia the two thrones is my favorite POP game I want to be a sequel to Prince of Persia the two thrones In the new Prince of Persia.And not be bad like pop tfs ,I want an amazing game.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by Michae_lol:
What's wrong of being barefoot (except of terrible injuries after sliding on some platforms which (injuries) Elika can miraculuously avoid).

Answer: magic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Same magic that allows her to grip walls like the Prince without a gauntlet.

I like her better without shoes. Not sure what it is, but I like it better that way.


Talking about PoP2008... am I the only one who thinks that the prototype outfits are simply... horrible? Ok, Elika is half nude and I'm sure the fanboys whould love this, but that white hairs are just terrible, it's too far from the persian style. And the Prince in gray it's sad.

Well it still doesn't look good if her skin is orange. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Her white hair used to be reeeally long in their first design. It looked less wierd, but I still didn't like it much, too typical of fantasy stories, too flashy for my taste. I prefer dark hair.

@neji88: I'm not sure they'll ever make a direct sequel to Two Thrones, but they might make something similar to it. I wish they'd use the stealth system they had in that game, they did a really good job with that. I wouldn't mind seeing something like in the 08 story. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Grafferu]

@ Lory
I don't like the prototype outfits either, but I'd love to see the Prince with a shorter jacket, almost like a vest, like he was in the early concepts. Elika's perfect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

I actually prefer the prototypes, they look more 1001 Nights-y, the ones used in game makes them look like hobos. Only hobbits get to be barefoot and still be cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

WW is awesome, it's nothing like Silent Hill, though I can see where you'd get that idea from, what's with all that blood. Ubi did a great job setting it, and I actually felt the despair of the Prince, especially during the chases.

SPOILERS:
<span class="ev_code_PURPLE">The scene after the chase after you kill Kaileena for the first time is simply classic, that's true despair...trying so hard to change his fate, but finally realizing that his fate is sealed, and that he is doomed to die...simply WOW.</span>

SoT was awesome, but in terms of story it wasn't that unique imo, not if you're used to middle Eastern literature (especially stuff written in the Islamic Empire).

T2T, while good, I think the writers didn't make much sense in the story in terms of Kaileena's character. Imo, it would've been better if they kept to their original idea in this department. I mean, such a strong character getting killed so easily by the vizier doesn't make sense, not after struggling so hard to stay alive...while on the other hand, struggling so hard to stay alive, but then she sacrifices herself to protect someone she loved, someone she never thought possible she could love...yeah, that would've been more touching.

TFS: I actually liked it, at least more than PoP08, lol

PoP08: Too easy, too repetitive imo, it feels like the game is playing itself rather me playing it, and it lacks a a decent way to tell the story. Having to press a button hundreds of times to get MAYBE a new bit of info about the story, and having the same lines repeated over and over again is BORING, and isn't engaging at all. *raises anti lightbringer flame shield*

[Gi1t]

Wait, aren't we kind of starting over here? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Maybe I'll just wait until this thread gets caught up with the discussions we've had previously had about the games. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Anyway...

@Undead_Knight1: Would it change much for you if you got a lot more information per one button press?

[BLooDLineS666]

@Rox
WW is indeed one of my favs, but i think, making the game have 2 endings and displaying the hidden one in next game is just nonsense. Think a PoP lover doesnt know anything about hidden one. And when he starts to play T2T, he is shocked that the ending he saw in the previous game is fake! What do you think?

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Gi1t:

Her white hair used to be reeeally long in their first design. It looked less wierd, but I still didn't like it much, too typical of fantasy stories, too flashy for my taste. I prefer dark hair.


Long hair are just too hard to animate, that's why Elika have short hair. And let me say it, she's even more sexy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Originally posted by Grafferu:
@ Lory
I don't like the prototype outfits either, but I'd love to see the Prince with a shorter jacket, almost like a vest, like he was in the early concepts. Elika's perfect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You've give me the idea for my next drawing! Thanks bro! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

PoP08: Too easy, too repetitive imo, it feels like the game is playing itself rather me playing it, and it lacks a a decent way to tell the story. Having to press a button hundreds of times to get MAYBE a new bit of info about the story, and having the same lines repeated over and over again is BORING, and isn't engaging at all. *raises anti lightbringer flame shield*

Put down your shield, I respect that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Anyway, the only thing I hate of WW... it's the italian dubbing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif my god, it's horrible! The dubber of the Prince can't give the right pathos in the action scenes. Bleargh.

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I actually prefer the prototypes, they look more 1001 Nights-y, the ones used in game makes them look like hobos. Only hobbits get to be barefoot and still be cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif



Sorry for the double post, but... YOU WIN!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[yavanna_1986]

Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
@Rox
WW is indeed one of my favs, but i think, making the game have 2 endings and displaying the hidden one in next game is just nonsense. Think a PoP lover doesnt know anything about hidden one. And when he starts to play T2T, he is shocked that the ending he saw in the previous game is fake! What do you think?
I completely agree, I didn't even know about the second ending until I joined the forum. I was a bit shocked. =/
If you ask me they did it because they weren't sure which ending to follow in T2T.


Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
Anyway, the only thing I hate of WW... it's the italian dubbing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif my god, it's horrible! The dubber of the Prince can't give the right pathos in the action scenes. Bleargh.
Ewww, I can't stand dubbed anything. D:

[dragons292010]

POP-SOT: Was my favorite until I played WW. Mainly because of the artistic environment and also liked most of the innovative gameplay

POP WW: I loved it. Shocking game play, the best story till date.I mostly loved combat and darker but beautiful environment. Dahaka was very thrilling. I really felt scared when Dahaka came bashing the doors' walls everything. It sucked me inside. A long and hard game.

POP T2T: Probably most difficult POP game. Just a short game. Speed kill was very good. But still not that satisfying as POP WW. It had a potential to became one of the best POP game if there was freedom. I was thrilled when I played Dark prince for the first time. Even the Normal prince gameplay was good. Dark prince was the real enemy I saw till date.

POP TFS: Same as T2T. BUt this lacked even in combat and story. It would have been a good game if the would follow Free form Fighting system and again givin us freedom. BUt Overall a best Platforming game.

POP 08: One of my worst games since I played. Just environment beauty doesn't make a game. But one thing I loved the most was the design of the enemies. Thats the only thing that made me to see this game. Even Elika didn't made the game worse. Sorry lightbringers I have say but Prince had worst character saw till date. Besides the clownish behavior of the prince, he speaks in an american Ascent. Why? Why not Persian ascent. If Ubi make a sequel then plz not the above points

[BLooDLineS666]

@Rox
indeed i was shocked, too. Because i learnt that after i started playing T2T.. That was a shocking moment indeed, and everything was understood when i joined the forums, and i had to play WW again.

[UnDead_Knight1]

@G1lt: that would've been better, but still annoying, why not just integrate it to the storyline via cut scenes and such, like a normal game? honestly, it feels like I'm reading a book, but I NEED to read the appendix to actually know what happens in the story, instead of just minor compliments.
Oh, and call me Khaled, or Delahk, whichever you prefer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

@Lory: I dunno how bad the Italian dubbing is, but if it's anything like the Hebrew dubbing...then yeah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif btw, do you happen to know who dubs Kaileena in the Italian version?

@Roxy: Oh, I agree with you about the dubbing, with one exception, DBZ dubbing, the original Japanese was weird, lol.

And same with me about the second ending, lol. When I joined, everyone was talking about how awesome the fight against the Dahaka was, and I was like whaaa...? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

[Gi1t]

@Khaled: It's more of a passive method rather than an engaging one. They definitely used it too much for important stuff though. I'd guess that anything that's necessary for the plot or any really good deatil that the devs WANT people to know would be better to put in automatic scenes.

What I DID like about it was that talking to her had a way of feeling very immersive. Surprisingly, it felt even more natural than the kind of involved conversations you have in Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect games. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

In those, the one thing that can take you out of the experience a little is that you can see the specific words you're choosing and the conversation pauses to let you answer. In real life that would be a bit like stopping to decide what kind of person you want ot be every sentence.

I liked that you did actually CHOOSE to ask about something, but didn't micromanage the conversation.

I think it'd be interesting if they could find a way to allow you to choose to ask about a certain topic, not specific, but sort of a general direction or perspective for the conversation without any interface. I'd like the ability to decide what the Prince asks about without choosing precisely what he says. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

@Lory: I dunno how bad the Italian dubbing is, but if it's anything like the Hebrew dubbing...then yeah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif btw, do you happen to know who dubs Kaileena in the Italian version?



Judge by youself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cmmaSYggI&feature=related) Go to 1.28 and try to listen. And try to not puke. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Talking about PoP2008, its italian dubbing is one of the best I ever heard. For once in theyr lifetime, they've done a good work! XD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWEO0thL0JU&feature=related) it's a rarity.

And Kaileena... for what I know, Monica Bellucci have gived her voice for dub her. But for now I still didn't heard her XD maybe they used her just for the cinematic video of the game.

[UnDead_Knight1]

@G1lt: Exactly my point, I don't want to stop playing and keep pressing the button in hopes of getting new information, they should've made it you'd actually get the story even without this, and you could use this talking to Elika button to get extra information about bosses and such, and it should be during gameplay, not having to stop to hear the conversation would be a great plus to me. I like your idea about having to choose what to ask about.

@Lory: well, I don't understand Italian, so I dunno if they did a good job or not, though it does seem like they lack a bit of emotion O-o (dubs all around the world seem to suffer from this O_o only good dubs I ever remember is the English dub of DBZ, and the Hebrew dub for the Smurfs, lol) btw, why does the player keep running away from fights? lol, they're like the best part of the game xD
Ah, so it IS Bellucci who did the acting for Kaileena...she also did it for the English version, that's why I asked, would be weird if they hired someone else, considering that Bellucci is a natural Italian speaker. Anyway, if she did as well as she did in the English version, you don't need to worry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
So how far are you in the game? and how do you like it so far?

[LoryBlackWolf]

@Khaled: OMG this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUQPv5J5Hgw&feature=related) is ever worst! Go to 2.09 for listen the astonishing Zombie of Persia!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Kaileena's voice is very nice, but he seems an undead. I will create a voodoo doll of his dubber, he deserve a long and painful death. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif he's and italian actor, by the way.
Actually I'm trying to unlock the gate you see in the video. And now I will kill for have the soundtrack of this game... play PoP with a good metal song as background music is... an orgasm!! XD

[Grafferu]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I actually prefer the prototypes, they look more 1001 Nights-y, the ones used in game makes them look like hobos. Only hobbits get to be barefoot and still be cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif hobbits are ugly and have no real reason not to wear shoes, while Elika does, she lives in the hot sand. Not to mention she looks 1000 times better then any hobbit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
You've give me the idea for my next drawing! Thanks bro! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

What is it ? what is it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


Originally posted by dragons292010:
Prince speaks in an american Ascent. Why? Why not Persian ascent ?
The SOT Prince spoke with a British accent http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif what's the difference ?

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Grafferu:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
You've give me the idea for my next drawing! Thanks bro! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

What is it ? what is it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You will never know. *evil laugh* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[dragons292010]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I actually prefer the prototypes, they look more 1001 Nights-y, the ones used in game makes them look like hobos. Only hobbits get to be barefoot and still be cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif hobbits are ugly and have no real reason not to wear shoes, while Elika does, she lives in the hot sand. Not to mention she looks 1000 times better then any hobbit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
You've give me the idea for my next drawing! Thanks bro! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

What is it ? what is it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


Originally posted by dragons292010:
Prince speaks in an american Ascent. Why? Why not Persian ascent ?
The SOT Prince spoke with a British accent http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif what's the difference ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would accept that point and expect that they would use Persian ascent as in T2T(maybe). Sorry but I can't discriminate within the ascent I wish to stop this discussion from this onward.

@LoryBlackWolf: Well I am curious for ur next drawing. I am basically worse at drawing. I just like to admire rather than making a drawing

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by dragons292010:

@LoryBlackWolf: Well I am curious for ur next drawing. I am basically worse at drawing. I just like to admire rather than making a drawing

Aww, thank you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif I'll do it soon!

[kaileena750]

Are you guys speaking about how horrible do the character sound in different languages? Try the Spanish Farah in T2T XD Thats horrible XD

Our WW Kaileena is Leonor Watling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But in T2T I have discovered that she´s the voice of a cookies ad ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But its funny, King Shahraman is the voice of the spanish inspector chalmers in the simpsons. Yeah, now i cant watch them without laughthin everytime he speaks XD

But leaving that Farah aside, the whole game sounds fine in spanish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Wanna try? XD

[blueobelix]

@Lory: i LOVE the way they dubbed the prince and elika in italian
in fact i didn't played PoP 2008 in english..but in italian.. i understand better and they're more cute and they dubbed it well!

[Gi1t]

@Khaled: Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I liked that some of the conversations were shown from close angles so you can see their expressions, but I suppose those could be cutscenes. Maybe have some optional cutscenes. Also, they really should make a system for logging what's been discussed so far so they don't have facts repeating themselves, (like the fascinating fact that the events of the celestial war happened "a thousand years ago"). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Hey, zombies, eh? at least it'll justify your initial thought about the game being a Prince of Silent Hill http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif it's weird, lol, it's the same person, but feelings and such are different when speaking different languages. Reminds of that time when my Korean classmate said I sound like a huge sadistic pervert when speaking Japanese http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
So, how are you liking those Dahaka chases so far? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Voodoo doll? eh? do it while listening to Voodoo by Godsmack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Yeah, I agree, this game has a killer soundtrack, along with DMC's and Legacy of Kain's soundtracks, these are my favs.
Ah, so you're a metal head? you get awesome points http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif it's illegal to download the soundtrack unfortunately.
So you're making a new painting? I'd love to see it, I love your drawing style, it's awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I wish I could draw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but I don't have the patience for it, lol. My art is photography, and I can't do all my ideas there, unless I heavily photoshop the photo to the point where it's not even a photo, lol.


hobbits are ugly and have no real reason not to wear shoes
Someone failed to see the joke xD


while Elika does, she lives in the hot sand.
Have you actually BEEN to a desert? hot sand is a reason to wear shoes, but go barefoot...during the day, that sand is like burning coal. The hot sun is also a reason to cover your body, unless you want to get burned to death.


The SOT Prince spoke with a British accent
I'm not sure why, maybe it's because I lived in America, and got used to it, but, American accent sounds...normal, if you know what I mean, while British sounds like it's royal. I guess that's why I like British voice actors for the Prince.

@Cristi: I think the worst voice actors I've heard are the ones for Rayman in Hebrew, and for Patrick (from Spongebob) in Arabic, lol, and of course Goku (from Dragon Ball) in Japanese.

EDIT:
@G1lt: Yeah, I like that part as well, What do you mean with optional cutscenes? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Hehe, yeah, I agree about that, I got so sick of hearing the same stuff over and over and over AND OVER AGAIN, that I stopped using this, and just read them online, when someone posted them on the forums, lol.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
@G1lt: Yeah, I like that part as well, What do you mean with optional cutscenes? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Hehe, yeah, I agree about that, I got so sick of hearing the same stuff over and over and over AND OVER AGAIN, that I stopped using this, and just read them online, when someone posted them on the forums, lol.

Oh, I mean making the conversations that can't be held while running along walls and such into actual cutscenes instead of just having them stand there and face each other. They'd have to be available only in certain spot, but I don't think that would be a problem and they wouldn't have to worry about the characters glitching at all because of how the player is standing.

[kaileena750]

Goku and the Prince in WW and T2T is the same man in Spanish O.O

OH OH THIS IS GOOD!! XD The man who voices Cameron in Modern Family is the same for Malik XD I´m gonna try to put Cameron´s voice on Malik´s body, thats to die fooooooooor!!! XD

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by kaileena750:
Goku and the Prince in WW and T2T is the same man in Spanish O.O

OH OH THIS IS GOOD!! XD The man who voices Cameron in Modern Family is the same for Malik XD I´m gonna try to put Cameron´s voice on Malik´s body, thats to die fooooooooor!!! XD

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif In the English version of WW, the Prince's voice was done by the same man who voiced the Prophet of Regret in Halo 2. As for the Prince's voice in the other two games, well, he's done too many voices to count.

The King's voice in 08 is Damon Baird from Gears of War. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

@Khaled: The Dahaka scares me to death to every chase O__O it's terrifing!! The best thing are the horns, have the shape of the infinity emblem. An endless pain for the Prince. Too cool.
And of course I'm a metalhead http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif I would like to do a draw for every PoP character taking inspiration from a song. Actually they are:
The Prince (2008): Metallica, Whenever I may roam
Elika: Within Temptation, Stand my ground (or What have you done)
The Prince (WW): Godsmack, I stand alone
Kaileena: mh, I still don't know her so much, I must end the game before. But I was thinking to Alice Cooper, Poison. Any suggestions? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif



Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
it's illegal to download the soundtrack unfortunately.


Thanks Ormazd, we have Ebay. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

@G1lt: oh, yeah, that's what I want too, would be so much easier.

@Cristi: I can totally see Goku and the WW Prince being the same man http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif both are brutes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

@Lory: oh, the Dahaka is quite scary, I tried fighting him first time I saw him...then he ate me, lol, that was creepy O_O
I like your suggestions, but I'd say for the WW Prince, use the song Insomnia by Megadeth http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Kaileena...hmm, that's a tough one, Poison fits I guess, or maybe Abigail by King Diamond?
Empress of Time: At the Left Hand ov God by Behemoth?
Shahdee...maybe In Your Face by CoB?
Sandwraith: Faceless by Godsmack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif since he's wearing a mask http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Prince (SoT): either Honor Thy Father or As I Am by Dream Theater.
Prince in T2T: Schizos are Never Alone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif by Annihilator, definitely http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif instrumental, but nothing fits better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Thanks for your suggestions! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I'll try to do something.

[UnDead_Knight1]

No problem, can't wait to see what you come up with http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Grafferu]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Someone failed to see the joke xD
I guess http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Have you actually BEEN to a desert? hot sand is a reason to wear shoes, but go barefoot...during the day, that sand is like burning coal. The hot sun is also a reason to cover your body, unless you want to get burned to death.
Well the Ahura kingdom is not covered in sand everywhere and she probably got that ripped shirt from her "dying adventure" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I'm not sure why, maybe it's because I lived in America, and got used to it, but, American accent sounds...normal, if you know what I mean, while British sounds like it's royal. I guess that's why I like British voice actors for the Prince.
For the SOT Prince the British accent sounds perfect to me too, but for the 08 thief the American accent fits very well I think http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I don't even know how a Persian accent sounds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yeah, I agree, an American accent fits a common thief http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Persian accent? it's Persian accent, lol, though, I actually don't want the Prince having a Persian accent, since not everyone understands it. He should either talk fully in Persian, or just talk in English in British or American accent. (I'd rather he'd have British accent if he's royal, but that's just me).

It's still hot, no? sandals make a whole lot more sense than barefoot imo.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Yeah, I agree, an American accent fits a common thief http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Persian accent? it's Persian accent, lol, though, I actually don't want the Prince having a Persian accent, since not everyone understands it. He should either talk fully in Persian, or just talk in English in British or American accent. (I'd rather he'd have British accent if he's royal, but that's just me).

It's still hot, no? sandals make a whole lot more sense than barefoot imo.

There's more truth to that than you might think. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif After all, a Prince who lived the life of a thief wouldn't exactly pick up the same manner of talking as a member of a royal family would he? An American accent (especially to an American) does sound more casual.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Exactly my thoughts. In that manner, they did well, although I didn't really like his attitude, but that's just me.

[mboltevski]

NOT THIS THREAD AGAIN!!!

[kew414]

So I bought T2T during the sales of steam earlier this week http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
I haven't played it in a looong time.

But I've decided I really liked the new gameplay mechanics they introduced. It's a fun game to play. However the plot is ridiculously badly executed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
For one, I think the dark prince part of the plot had the potential to be interesting, but the whole thing is done quite badly.
In fact, in the first appearance the dark prince makes, he hardly comes off as evil/sinister/dark in any way. He says things like "be careful" and is quite supportive of the prince... I mean, it doesn't even come off as the "we're sharing this body so you better not damage it" kind of evil, it seems like legit concern to me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh well, WW is definitely the one with the best plot in the trilogy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

I've played to PoP 2008 after a lot of time, and I was go crazy with controls XD are so different than WW! I've jumped and falled a lot of times screaming wtf?! ... for then remember the poor Elika. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[blueobelix]

Did you know the is a PSP version of PoP TFS?
http://prince-of-persia.uk.ubi.com/#/videos/7621
and that they used Harry Potter's trailer song in this vid?
http://prince-of-persia.uk.ubi.com/#/videos/6912

[UnDead_Knight1]

@Max: hmmm, what's wrong with this thread? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

@Kew-chan: I agree about T2T's plot, lol, it's kinda weird.

@Lory: lol, yeah, the controls are quite different, PoP08 is more like a movie, while in WW you have to control everything. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif I really dig the fighting system in WW though, best system in a game.

[LoryBlackWolf]

Hey, but http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif when I've sayd that I stand alone of Godsmack remember me PoP WW, I didn't know that this song IS in the game! Today I've listen it, and my face was this: http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/i/l/ilavplz.png?1

[SeriousPrince]

Analogue sticks rock. 3 months back I was dying and dying and struggling to beat the crap out of the *itch Shahdee in WW at normal mode off my keyboard/mouse combos. Dying so much at 50% mark off the boat encounter by her hands in the beginning at Hard was enough to switch me to Normal thinking it was too Hard. I mean if the very first adversary can be this tough just off the start then how bad could things get on progressing further? Using the keyboard/mouse in sync in the final climb off those multiple waterfalls was a mess in TFS. It was no picnic, having to frantically play off multiple keys and mouse in sync and get the necessary split second timing right. In SoT, in the big elevator fight, I could never trigger the power of haste and speedkilling that one can do after having all 10 sandtanks full. The keyboard couldn't figure out a perfect combo of buttons. The menu didn't specify any. I wonder if I can get it in analogue stick now? How do I trigger that fast moving and kill frenzy?

Got an analogue stick in the middle of T2T last month and played after the twin bosses with it. Played 2008 last 2 weeks off analogue stick and love it absolutely. Now started WW on Hard with analogue stick and absolutely massacred Shahdee in the boat without losing any health. Vault attacks are beautiful and smoother with joysticks and allows split second guard if something goes wrong with a combo, unlike keyboards that take a fraction of a second late to react. I am so loving it. Look forward to repaying Shahdee big time at sacrifical altar when I get there soon. Gave me a *itch of a time when i was still a keyboard warrior.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[SeriousPrince]

Oh, this has to be said but WW was the best. most thrilling, most satisfying and surprising game. Epic cinema stuff alright. If only Ubisoft had developed WW on the scale of 2008, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions.

[LoryBlackWolf]

I totally agree with you, SeriousPrince. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[kaileena750]

Originally posted by SeriousPrince:
Oh, this has to be said but WW was the best. most thrilling, most satisfying and surprising game. Epic cinema stuff alright. If only Ubisoft had developed WW on the scale of 2008, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions.

Dont forget that it has the most complex story since you have to play with present and past time. It has more variety of enemies and weapons (with its gallery, and cool names), the enviroment looks scary in some places and in others look calmed, the characters are very worked and, and and and! In this game rests the key of the whole storyline (though it could be even more complete)

There was a big difference from SOT to WW. But we cannot say the same with T2T ...

And if they made the same progress with the new POP storyline like what happened in WW (not necessary that darker, but I mean, the change of the level, the difference, the new things!) that would bring the POP saga to a new reborn that would smash down that AC forever!!!! *Evil laugh*

Yeah, I know I got a problem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif But POP has lost many fans due to AC "Its better in this, its better in that..." IT IS JUST THE SON OF THIS GAME THAN NOW IS DEAD! The same things but with the progress we cannot see now in POP!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif arrg!!

[LoryBlackWolf]

Okay, when the Dahaka chase you and run without teletrasporting, and you hear the heavy sound of his steps behind you... have I already say Prince of Silent Hill? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Oh my Ormazd, I was dying for fear!!

[kaileena750]

You should have seen me in the last chases XD It was like: OMG run run run you idiot he´s gonna get you!!

And I wont say the things i shouted to my TV when i fighted the great Dahaka XD

[Grafferu]

Originally posted by SeriousPrince:
If only Ubisoft had developed WW on the scale of 2008, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions.
You mean "if only Ubisoft had developed 2008 on the scale of WW, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions" right ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeriousPrince:
If only Ubisoft had developed WW on the scale of 2008, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions.
You mean "if only Ubisoft had developed 2008 on the scale of WW, we would have had an epic game of epic proportions" right ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol!! I agree!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

I've finished the mobile version of PoP2008. Just one comment: bawwww. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Anyway, I have a stupid question. Talking about the Prince of the SOT trilogy... can someone say to me what the hell of color are his eyes?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif in SOT seems blue on the cover, ice blue/gray in the game graphic, and dark blue/green during the cinematic. And in WW seems black or dark blue. I have to draw him, so please help me, it's a matter of life and death.

[persiateddy95]

His eye-color is blue, and Kaileena's is green.

[UnDead_Knight1]

If you guys like game stories with time traveling you should definitely play the Legacy of Kain series, simply the best story I've played, and simply the best OST I've heard. (Ozar Midrashim FTW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RMWWBXYbs)). It's dark though, and you play as a vampire.

Btw, can anyone tell me the story of the epilogue? I don't want to watch it on youtube, kinda boring watching someone else play...

@Lory: Which Prince you're drawing? the SoT, WW or T2T one? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
If you guys like game stories with time traveling you should definitely play the Legacy of Kain series, simply the best story I've played, and simply the best OST I've heard. (Ozar Midrashim FTW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RMWWBXYbs)). It's dark though, and you play as a vampire.

Btw, can anyone tell me the story of the epilogue? I don't want to watch it on youtube, kinda boring watching someone else play...

@Lory: Which Prince you're drawing? the SoT, WW or T2T one? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Warrior Within http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif absolutly! I still don't have start anything, but I absolutly do something about him and Kaileena. Stupid exams... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Are you talking about... the PoP2008 Epilogue? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Or about Legacy of Kain? Sadly I've never play it, but it looks like a great game.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yeah, exams are annoying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Yeah, PoP2008 epilogue, this is a PoP thread after all, Legacy of Kain doesn't have an epilogue, just 5 full games, which I played countless times, simply epic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif you should play it if you liked WW. The story...you should play it at least twice or three times to fully understand the story though. The last game, Defiance, is the best in the series. You can find the story of all the games written like a book on the internet, limme see if I can find it.

[LoryBlackWolf]

Do you know if these game are been released for pc or PlayStation2? If they not... I can forget them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Anyway, talking about the Epilogue... SPOILER alert!! and sorry for my grammatical errors.



<span class="ev_code_PURPLE">After release Ahriman, the Prince flee with Elika in an ancient underground tomb, where rest. But Elika it's too much furious, and run away from him... only for meet again the Hunter and the Warrior, puppets without soul created by Ahriman for stop them. The Prince is sure that Elika's death was exaclty what Ahriman wants, and now that she's back they have a chance for defeate him, because she still have her powers even if the Temple is destroyed. But Elika don't belive him, she thinks that now no one can stop him. Then, they find the corrupted king who try to convince the Prince to pass by Ahriman's side, but he refuse without doubt, and they chase him away. Elika explain that they're in the ancient tomb of the king who saw the siege of Ahriman to the City of Light, a king who fled away with fear until Ormazd take to the field for fight and save his people. That's why Elika is so demoralized, because only a god can defeate Ahriman, but again the Prince deny this: the plates are active, Elika becomes more powerful, it means that she's strictly bounded to Ormazd. They fight again Elika's father again and this time the Prince kill him, but Elika can't save his soul from Ahriman as she do with the other Corrupted. Finally they reach a way out from the tomb, and here Elika decide to leave without him for find her people, her last hope. The prince remain alone in the tomb, with Ahriman's voice who say that the destiny cannot be changed, and the Light becomes weak... ... that's all. Another dead end. I swear, I've almost yelled WTF?! That's worst that the ending of the game. </span>

[UnDead_Knight1]

All Legacy of Kain are released for both PC and PlayStation (first game in the series was released for the first playstation). I think some of the games are also released for Dreamcast and xbox.


Wow, thanks for that, now I know what happens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Good, I'll search for that, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The worst thing of the Epilogue is that... the DCL it's the most fun part of the entire game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I've just see it on youtube, and it looks great. It's just the ending (and the fact that will be never release for pc) that sucks.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yeah, that's what I've heard...I feel like I've been ripped off for buying the game on PC.

[Grafferu]

Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
That's worst that the ending of the game
It's not even an ending, Ubi just paused the story in the middle of it and kept us waiting ever since http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
That's worst that the ending of the game
It's not even an ending, Ubi just paused the story in the middle of it and kept us waiting ever since http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm fine with it personally as long as they actually follow up on it.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yeah, but IF they follow with it...Ubi's getting lazy when it comes to PoP...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Michae_lol]

The ending without the DLC was pretty good and could be as well the end of the whole story. But they had to mess things up with the Epilogue and then they just ignored the whole community.

[UnDead_Knight1]

How could it be the end of the whole story if Arihman was free? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif if it was like that, it'd just look like it's one of those stories that the author hoped for a sequel, yet was too lazy to make one, so they left things to your imagination...

[BLooDLineS666]

The original story is UNCOMPLETED. And i dont know towards what end it goes, but it seems DLC at least reveals something about a completed end. Dont you guys have any suspicions about that.

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
How could it be the end of the whole story if Arihman was free? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif if it was like that, it'd just look like it's one of those stories that the author hoped for a sequel, yet was too lazy to make one, so they left things to your imagination...

It would be a good ending, if Ubi workers would have doned a good work. How many beautiful movies and games have an open ending, or a sudden turn of events that make a sad ending a GREAT ending? Even only a good final line of the Prince would be good, just think to the ending of SOT. I've loved that ending! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But they just have destroyed all the pathos, as if they had a hurry to finish the game. After the amazing work with graphic and everything else, they just have loose professionalism.

It is very disappointing.

[Michae_lol]

@UnDead_Knight1
Not every story has to have a happy end (look at some Stephen King's books). And this end was little philosophic and seemed deep. I liked it and it didn't feel like a cliffhanger to me.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
How could it be the end of the whole story if Arihman was free? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif if it was like that, it'd just look like it's one of those stories that the author hoped for a sequel, yet was too lazy to make one, so they left things to your imagination...

It would be a good ending, if Ubi workers would have doned a good work. How many beautiful movies and games have an open ending, or a sudden turn of events that make a sad ending a GREAT ending? Even only a good final line of the Prince would be good, just think to the ending of SOT. I've loved that ending! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But they just have destroyed all the pathos, as if they had a hurry to finish the game. After the amazing work with graphic and everything else, they just have loose professionalism.

It is very disappointing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Honestly, all that sounds like more evidence that the ending was meant to be part one of a larger story.

I loved every bit of it, it's what really made me love the game more than anything else. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'm fine with an ending designed to include more mainly because I like where the story's going. I like this whole idea they've got going and want to see more of the story.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Not every story has to have a happy end (look at some Stephen King's books). And this end was little philosophic and seemed deep. I liked it and it didn't feel like a cliffhanger to me.
Except it lacked a little thing called closure...not every ending has to be good, but it has to have closure, I mean, if Arihman killed the thief, then yeah, that's a solid ending, since it gives closure to the thief's story, but the way it is now...no matter how you look at it, it's just cutting the story in the middle...you follow the thief and Elika in this battle, Elika dies, thief revives her, releasing Arihman in the process, then what? there's no feeling of closure to the story...I mean, yeah, if they gave you the feeling that Arihman's gonna win, but with a hint of hope, then that would be a GREAT ending, but the way it is now, no...just no...
As for it being philosophical....there's good reason why philosophers and writers/literature critics don't get along...

[LoryBlackWolf]

I've finish Warrior Within!! Finally!! http://e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/squee.gif It was both an astonishing thing and a big delusion. An astonishing thing because THIS is a VERY good ending. And it was a delusion because... I didn't see this ending. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif without the Water Sword, I've seen the bad ending. I've seen the good one on Youtube. Sniff.

And now... Two Thrones, I'm coming!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Grafferu]

Why didn't you get the water sword ?

[LoryBlackWolf]

Because I didn't find all the health level up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

There's a walkthrough on finding all health upgrades, but some of them are hard to get, gratz on finishing it, I'm proud of you http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
There's a walkthrough on finding all health upgrades, but some of them are hard to get, gratz on finishing it, I'm proud of you http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

lol, thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif My first impression of T2T: the atmosphere it's more "persian", I've miss this little detail in WW. And the swift kill... wow!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[persiateddy95]

The speed kills are cool but it gets boring after a while.

[LoryBlackWolf]

I really like it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif after all that fierce battles in WW... I can say it's one of the hardest game I ever played. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
There's a walkthrough on finding all health upgrades, but some of them are hard to get, gratz on finishing it, I'm proud of you http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

lol, thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif My first impression of T2T: the atmosphere it's more "persian", I've miss this little detail in WW. And the swift kill... wow!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I suppose that's to be expected when you return home to PERSIA from a mythical island. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I loved the speed kills too, but I agree with what Teddy said, after awhile I sort of WANTED to get into a fight, but when I did I didn't enjoy the fighting quite as much...apart from teh steal weapon kill. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[anisha_astro]

i kind of liked the speed kills.....but like to kill with weapons equally well...

[Grafferu]

Found this great screenshot from POP-TSATF and thought I put it against the 2010 version, just to see the evolution http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/RawGraff/Untitled-1-4.jpg

[LoryBlackWolf]

That's great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[BLooDLineS666]

Hmm.. I see, nearly nothing has changed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

[Grafferu]

You're right, the feeling is the same, only the graphics improved.

[BLooDLineS666]

Yeah, and that feeling should always be the same. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

[Booger]

I haven't really seen anyone talking about it, which makes me wonder if this is just me, but, does anyone miss the CHARACTER detail/movement from POP:TSOT. It was so fluid,the hair, the clothes, the face...

I was kind of traumatised to see the brittle haired, ceramic faced price in the subsequent titles. I always thought that if they could mix in the world/lighting detail of the later series with the character detail in the first (Sands Of Time) game, it would have been even more spectacular.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by Booger:
I haven't really seen anyone talking about it, which makes me wonder if this is just me, but, does anyone miss the CHARACTER detail/movement from POP:TSOT. It was so fluid,the hair, the clothes, the face...

I was kind of traumatised to see the brittle haired, ceramic faced price in the subsequent titles. I always thought that if they could mix in the world/lighting detail of the later series with the character detail in the first (Sands Of Time) game, it would have been even more spectacular.

Well, maybe I wasn't the only one who kind of felt this way, but it did seem like the combat animations after Sands of Time were more choppy and indistinct. Regrettably I haven't been able to play Warrior Within or Two Thrones in a very long time, but I remember a lot of animations that kind of left me wondering what exactly was supposed to be happening. I seem to remember the blocking animation in Two Thrones really didn't "feel" like blocking for some reason and I remember having to watch my health meter in Warrior Within sometimes to tell whether the Prince was blocking or taking a hit because I couldn't tell from the animation.

It might be just fuzzy memory on my part but it really felt like SOMETHING was missing from that equation after Sands of Time.

(The 2008 game felt a lot more like Sands of Time in that respect.)

[UnDead_Knight1]

I don't really feel there was something missing in WW, but in T2T, while good game, did feel like something is missing :/

[Grafferu]

Originally posted by Booger:
I haven't really seen anyone talking about it, which makes me wonder if this is just me, but, does anyone miss the CHARACTER detail/movement from POP:TSOT. It was so fluid,the hair, the clothes, the face...

I was kind of traumatised to see the brittle haired, ceramic faced price in the subsequent titles. I always thought that if they could mix in the world/lighting detail of the later series with the character detail in the first (Sands Of Time) game, it would have been even more spectacular.

You're so right, I hated the T2T Prince for standing like a dummy when you stopped playing for a few seconds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif he would just stand like a stiff robot and look around ... while the SOT Prince would start stretching, looking around, dusting his clothes, then finally going into a meditation mode http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Oh and the fluidity of his moves came from his baggier clothes and flexible polls. In the next games the poles were stiff as hell and didn't even bend when he caught them, and his tight leather pants http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif didn't help either.
In the 2008 game the Prince & Elika moved more naturally and their clothes and hair were always floating which was cool, but I would've love to see some poles bending under their weight to add to that fluidity of motion ... oh well, maybe in the sequel

[LoryBlackWolf]

Okay, I've almost finish T2T too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif I have to kill Zervan! Geez, I hate him to death http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Grafferu]

You think it will all end with his death ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
You think it will all end with his death ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Thanks Ormazd, no! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[Grafferu]

So you've finished it ?

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
So you've finished it ?

Weeeeell.... no. I've discovered Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess and this bring me far from PoP for a while, but I'll finish it!

Anyway, look what I've found!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye5UeGI7F_g) it's the song from the PoP2008 cinematic trailer, and I'm totally fall in love with it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Come Lory, you can finish it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by LoryBlackWolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grafferu:
So you've finished it ?

Weeeeell.... no. I've discovered Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess and this bring me far from PoP for a while, but I'll finish it!

Anyway, look what I've found!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye5UeGI7F_g) it's the song from the PoP2008 cinematic trailer, and I'm totally fall in love with it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Discovered"? You finished the water temple then? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DenimPrince]

Twilight Princess is one of my favorite games of all time. Ever.

[Grafferu]

Wrong place Nic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I think you've mistaken this thread for the Non POP discussions one

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
Wrong place Nic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I think you've mistaken this thread for the Non POP discussions one

Thread hijacked by Zant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

When I've finished WW, I though that the sequel can't be more good than this. I was wrong! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I've finished T2T and now I can say that is my favorite of the SoT trilogy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif spectacular!!

[persiateddy95]

Nice that you finished it. ^^

Personally I see T2T as trying to get back to SoT and having a feel from both of it and WW, but kinda failed. But still it was awesome and the ending was pretty good. I can't really complain about the ending.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Gratz on finishing it, Lory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I love T2T, but I'd say it's my least favorite of the trilogy (quad-logy?)

[LoryBlackWolf]

Thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif hey, a little stupid thing. Have you ever notice that the 2008 Prince have the same scar of the SoT Prince on the left breast? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

[Grafferu]

You mean left chest http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
Nope, didn't noticed that

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
You mean left chest http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
Nope, didn't noticed that

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif uh, yes, sorry! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Let me show you where is that sexy scar (http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6150/yscar.jpg) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

[persiateddy95]

Lmao, "breast". xD

[LoryBlackWolf]

Originally posted by persiateddy95:
Lmao, "breast". xD

Come oooon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif I still have some problems with english! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[persiateddy95]

And I never said he didn't actually have a breast. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[Grafferu]

Hahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif that pic is hilarious Lory http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[LoryBlackWolf]

Any girl would be happy to stay there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[GoldenGlaive0]

Hi to all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

so ...
when we all are eagerly
waiting for the
next Game of Prince of Persia ,
its pretty important
for both gamers and game designers
to know ..what.. a Dream Game
should have

This can be a Great example
of another Dream Game :

Gameplay part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bnKvsYNhY)


Gameplay part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5q3z4j8opg)

[Michae_lol]

Originally posted by Grafferu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Booger:
I haven't really seen anyone talking about it, which makes me wonder if this is just me, but, does anyone miss the CHARACTER detail/movement from POP:TSOT. It was so fluid,the hair, the clothes, the face...

I was kind of traumatised to see the brittle haired, ceramic faced price in the subsequent titles. I always thought that if they could mix in the world/lighting detail of the later series with the character detail in the first (Sands Of Time) game, it would have been even more spectacular.

You're so right, I hated the T2T Prince for standing like a dummy when you stopped playing for a few seconds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif he would just stand like a stiff robot and look around ... while the SOT Prince would start stretching, looking around, dusting his clothes, then finally going into a meditation mode http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Oh and the fluidity of his moves came from his baggier clothes and flexible polls. In the next games the poles were stiff as hell and didn't even bend when he caught them, and his tight leather pants http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif didn't help either.
In the 2008 game the Prince & Elika moved more naturally and their clothes and hair were always floating which was cool, but I would've love to see some poles bending under their weight to add to that fluidity of motion ... oh well, maybe in the sequel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My thoughts exactly. Nobody ever notices that in the reviews.

[Gi1t]

Originally posted by GoldenGlaive0:
Hi to all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

so ...
when we all are eagerly
waiting for the
next Game of Prince of Persia ,
its pretty important
for both gamers and game designers
to know ..what.. a Dream Game
should have

This can be a Great example
of another Dream Game :

Gameplay part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bnKvsYNhY)


Gameplay part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5q3z4j8opg)

That's really the first time I've heard much about Dark Sector. Sort of passed under the radar when it came out.

That boss didn't seem very threatening, but anyway, what was it about this game you'd like to see more of in other games? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Michae_lol]

I have like two copies of Dark Sector but I nevel played it since I had instalation issues.

[GoldenGlaive0]

Thanks for the replies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


so ...
in my book,
this is the only game in the world
which has that Quality
which is there in Prince of Persia

The quality is quite difficult to explain
one can feel it only while realtime gameplay
and these above video screens will not give
any idea about what the game has


The game is very unique ..
one of its own kind..
super thrilling..super exciting
The characters are so amazingly designed
that one can't hate them


Though it comes under the category
of the game like Prototype
but there is hardly any similarity
between the two.
Prototype is like play & forget
hardly any seriousness around
its more for the kids
Dark Sector defines the term "Seriousness"
one can sense it right from the beginning
It defines the Excitement
It defines the term Thrill


It is an Icon ... a dream game
other than Prince of Persia.

[Gi1t]

One certainly doesn't hear comments like that about games that don't have something special in them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Though it comes under the category
of the game like Prototype
but there is hardly any similarity
between the two.
Prototype is like play & forget
hardly any seriousness around
its more for the kids
Dark Sector defines the term "Seriousness"
one can sense it right from the beginning


Judging by the type of game Prototype is, it sounds like you're syaing Dark Sector is very immersive; it's the type of game where you don't feel like it's a game most of the time.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I do prefer games that feel this way, and that's why I'm not a heavy critic. Being too critical when playing something makes it hard to enjoy that aspect.

I prefer criticism in retrospect. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[GoldenGlaive0]

trust me, this is the only game in the world
that equals the quality of Prince of Persia
at the same time
it gives totally different way of using Blade
in a slow-mo .. that's very rare
and there are so many things as well
it is truly multi-dimensional game


Just a small trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkNpyx-wOpw)