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Farcus01
04-18-2004, 10:04 AM
What dose ATI Card Optimized mean exactly? i mean i got a ATI card (9000 non pro) and does that ATI Optimized thingy for RvS make any difference?

Farcus01
04-18-2004, 10:04 AM
What dose ATI Card Optimized mean exactly? i mean i got a ATI card (9000 non pro) and does that ATI Optimized thingy for RvS make any difference?

C1v1l1an
04-18-2004, 10:25 AM
It means ATi paid Ubi or Ubi paid ATi so that one could print optimized on the box. Just because it's optimized doesn't mean Nvidia didn't go out and buy a copy of the game and optimize their drivers for it. Ironically, ATi cards have major problems with this game and Nvidia cards don't.

Well, I'm sure Nvidia got a free copy of the game too.

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tonytwotoes
04-18-2004, 10:37 AM
It means it runs if you are lucky. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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teebus
04-18-2004, 10:40 AM
I think it means that if you have ATI in your system, your level of frustration is optimsed.

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rev.demonknight
04-18-2004, 11:07 AM
go through smoke with an nvidia card it lags ati doesnt.

VW-IceFire
04-18-2004, 11:10 AM
It means it supports ATI TruForm (which doubles the detail on the Rainbow operatives) but I have that feature disabled so I don't find that much of an advantage.

Its like the nVidia "The Way It Was Meant To Be Played" campaign...its the same thing essentially. Just marketing and corporate money exchanges.

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teebus
04-18-2004, 11:22 AM
Are you sure it supports TruForm (perhaps not TruForm2), because I have it enabled in my drivers, but don't notice the characters looking any better than they did with my GeforceFX 5600Ultra.

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MT_UnclePhil
04-18-2004, 08:52 PM
Teebus your dead right on that one, i cant tell the difference even with the character detail on low or high. I notice ATI has a screenshot of it enabled on rvs and it looks really good but i dont see anything done on my system. I dont know what that wireframe command for singleplayer is either

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Cougar.ini
04-18-2004, 09:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rev.demonknight:
go through smoke with an nvidia card it lags ati doesnt.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it doesn't. I'm on an NVidia Geforce FX 5200 256MB and 6 smoke grenades causes zero lag whether I'm outside of it or in the middle of it.

HappySmoker
04-19-2004, 12:21 PM
Actually i had an overclocked Gforce 4 Ti4200 128mb and ravenshield ran great on it.
Now i got a Radeon 9800 Pro and the game runs bad!

This game is Nvidia optimized not ati!

Ofcr_Lawless
04-19-2004, 01:57 PM
I also have the 9800PRO. Seems to run pretty good for me although I haven't had an GeForce in a long time to compare it to.

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MT_UnclePhil
04-19-2004, 02:49 PM
i have a geforce 4ti 4200 and a 9800pro, the 9800 pro runs ALOT better. You must be using drivers from the stone age.

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Ofcr_Lawless
04-19-2004, 03:51 PM
Glad to hear it...Makes me feel alot better about my purchace after hearing what Happy had to say.

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C1v1l1an
04-19-2004, 08:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rev.demonknight:
go through smoke with an nvidia card it lags ati doesnt.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ATi has the same problem. Plus we can't use FSAA or AF unless we use drivers from 8 months ago.

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Blud_E_Gutz
04-20-2004, 04:15 AM
From what I have read in other forums, ATI has stated that they can't fix RVS, ATI says it is something the UBI's team has to fix! If I can find the post again, I will link it. I believe it was over at the platoon.

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TestLab
04-20-2004, 05:15 AM
Yes.

I bought an ATI card (9800 pro) and I can say it's faster than my old TI4600 but when It comes to smoke (gas in my case) jeez, it's unplayable with ATI. With my TI4600 I didn't even notice it ...

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jjds1
04-20-2004, 06:31 AM
well i have a 9800pro and fps go up and down on diffrent maps but i love my 9800pro. it does not matter what card you have, they will all have problems with this game.

TheMotec
04-20-2004, 06:41 AM
One word wrpas up Raven Shield... inconsistent. I have a underclocked 9700Pro and get great frames on all resolutions and detail settings. Smoke no issue, nightvision no issue. Inconsistent. Takes one head shot with a psg1, 24 test later it takes 2. Me and a friend once tested the cz (think it shoots rubber bullets?) well it took 40 point blank shots the my chest JUST to gimp me, if the gun shoots rubber bullets honestly why is it in the game? Inconsistent stats, fps, physics, hit detection, netcode, and patches. Only game I know works differently on each system with such a noticable difference.

Smash_Swiper
04-20-2004, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
It means it supports ATI TruForm (which doubles the detail on the Rainbow operatives) but I have that feature disabled so I don't find that much of an advantage.

Its like the nVidia "The Way It Was Meant To Be Played" campaign...its the same thing essentially. Just marketing and corporate money exchanges.

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where is that feature?.. i had GF4200Ti and now R9800PRO 256. and there is now difference not even the FPS..

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Ofcr_Lawless
04-20-2004, 09:19 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TestLab:
Yes.

I bought an ATI card (9800 pro) and I can say it's faster than my old TI4600 but when It comes to smoke (gas in my case) jeez, it's unplayable with ATI. With my TI4600 I didn't even notice it ...QUOTE]

No problems with smoke or gas here. running Cats 4.4

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teebus
04-20-2004, 10:10 AM
I am going to try out the new Catalyst 4.4s now... I will just scream if anti-aliasing still doesn't work! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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C1v1l1an
04-21-2004, 04:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lawlesbe:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TestLab:
Yes.

I bought an ATI card (9800 pro) and I can say it's faster than my old TI4600 but when It comes to smoke (gas in my case) jeez, it's unplayable with ATI. With my TI4600 I didn't even notice it ...QUOTE]

No problems with smoke or gas here. running Cats 4.4

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What are your settings? What CPU do you have? For me, regardless of what I do, FPS in heavy smoke will always be around 10. I can drop my resolution to 640x480 and I still get that.

I miss my GF2 64MB. It handled smoke, no problem.

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teebus
04-21-2004, 08:24 AM
Civilian- Is this with antialiasing enabled? If so- what setting. I assume it still occurs when you do this ("regardless of what I do").

I found my smoke lag disapears if I remove antialiasing and change the minimum desired framerate to about 30. A right pain in the rear end though, having to do that on a high end card like the Radeon 9800pro.

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FuriousReload
04-22-2004, 08:56 AM
Radeon and nVidia are both good, on my comp i use the PNY Verto GeForce FX 5200 128mb, i have no problem with RvS at all...on my sisters comp she has an ATi,and its the same, no problems, i built both comps myself, each has over 1 GB of memory and 2.8 GHz,both have soyo dragon 2 motherboards, i get no problems at all.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

NapalmFrog
04-22-2004, 02:16 PM
My Radeon 9800 Pro obliterates all games I own, though I do, too, come across the dumb smoke decrease.

When I had my GeForce 2 Ti, with all settings on max, I could play smooth (lowish frames), but experience 0 drop in fps...I don't know why, this holds true with other games too. When I had this card, I laughed at others with thes moke problem, and now I feel as if i laughed at myself. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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teebus
04-22-2004, 02:47 PM
It is best not to be put off by the performance on Ravenshield. It has an old engine which doesn't utilise new features, that is all.

I know this is slightly off-topic, but just wait for Half-Life2/S.T.A.L.K.E.R (SOC)/Pacific Assault.

Not only will the visuals be glorious (ask me anything about the visual effects on Half-Life 2 and I will tell you- except how to program them, of course), really doing our Radeon 9800Pros and XTs justice, but will also have very realistic physics. Pacific Assault and HL2 both using the Havok physics engine, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R using the X-ray phyiscs engine. Both are very powerful!

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MT_UnclePhil
04-23-2004, 03:04 AM
This engine must hate different configs, i have a gig of ram with a 2.8ghz pentium 4. RVS is ALWAYS above 50fps online and is capped at 85fps in singleplayer due to vsynch. Not only that but the newer drivers seem to make games run better with every new release. Every month i look forward to new drivers. Hopefully May's Catalyst will fix the AA/AF problems in BFV.

As for RVS, ATI has clearly made it out that ubi is at fault for the AA/AF problems, ati seems to fix problems it has with every game, but not RVS? hmmm very odd. (or very crappy engine).

Im glad both Nvidia and ATI are around, competition is darn good in the computer market with one missing, prices would skyrocket and not as much effort would be put into its products *cough* microsoft *cough*

I personally get my card based soley on performance and price, and crap loads of reviews.

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VW-IceFire
04-23-2004, 05:45 PM
Ummm I have a 9700Pro and it laughs in the face of anything that RvS could possibly throw at it. I get consistent 60 fps or higher (usually more in the 80's).

This is regardless of the amount of smoke, gas, or any other types of grenades or visual effects present in this game.

No problem. No slow down, no issues. This is obviously not a manufacturer issue but a user error or a misconfiguration. Thats the most common issues in PC tech today http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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teebus
04-24-2004, 12:38 AM
IceFire- it also depends on your driver settings...

What do you have Anti-Aliasing set to, and texture and mipmap detail under Direct3D?

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ST4_kILLA
04-24-2004, 09:57 PM
all optimized means is that it was developed ON that brand of cards, most games now are optimzed for nvidia, meaning nvidia cards were used when making them, and more attention was made to making them run better on that card.

teebus
04-25-2004, 01:29 AM
Well perhaps Ravenshield does work well with the Radeon 8500... Anybody got one of those things?

I know for a fact parts of UT2003/2004 were programmed using ATI as well, but Nvidia pays them for the animated logo at the start of the game.

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