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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 09:47 AM
Thinking about getting a pellet gun just for plinking.

I live in the city now and going out in your "backyard" to waste a few rounds at a target is kinda hard to do without driving 10 miles and paying 20$ or so to use their range with everyone else standing around.

So thinking pellet gun might hold off the bordem but I have no clue as to what is the best.

I heard the chinese pellet guns are good cheap guns.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 09:47 AM
Thinking about getting a pellet gun just for plinking.

I live in the city now and going out in your "backyard" to waste a few rounds at a target is kinda hard to do without driving 10 miles and paying 20$ or so to use their range with everyone else standing around.

So thinking pellet gun might hold off the bordem but I have no clue as to what is the best.

I heard the chinese pellet guns are good cheap guns.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 02:27 PM
I have a Daisy pump that I got 30 years ago it will shoot BB's or pellets. It's still used on a regular basis my son has it now. The only problem I ever had out of it was when I first got it I tried to over pump it and blew out an O ring.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 10:16 PM
If you're willing to pay around a hundred dollars, then get a Benjamin Harisson (spelling) pellet gun in .22 caliber. It can be fired at low pressure (two pumps) or high pressure (eight to ten pumps) depending on the situation and can really whop dogs (careful, high pressure shots may kill them) if the need becomes apparent. The ammunition costs more than .177 caliber and is harder to find, but it is very comparable in accuracy.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 10:49 PM
An Offset to your question.

Check the local laws in your area. When I lived in VA (1986) A friend and I where in my back yard shooting old GI Joe figures when a Police Helicopter flew over head and two patrolmen came around the side of the house. Local law saw no difference in firing a gun (With bullets) and a pellet/bb gun. We were not arrested although technically we could have. Still considered firing a firearm within a residencial area. I have also seen several oterh states/cities with the same.

There where no houses behind mine and I never did find out who called the police.

Just 2cents worth of advice. If it is not a concern or law in your area... have at it. Cant recommend any new ones... I had an old Marksman pistol.


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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 10:55 PM
a good point 666.

I plan on using it in the garage. It's short range I know. But I always liked targeting shooting but it's such a hassel when you have to go to a range to do it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 03:35 AM
A few things to consider:

As someone else said, *most* municipalities consider airguns to be firearms. Depending on local incidents (ie, kids shooting out streetlights, and at people passing by) they may or may not enforce that around there.

If you're going to be shooting indoors, you will definitely want a pellet and not a bb gun. You will also want to buy or construct a proper trap for them, because even pellets will ricochet (we used to shoot at the driveway at just the right angle to make that sound they always make in old westerns). A .22 pellet gun is probably going to be more power than you want for indoors. It shouldn't, however, be hard to find them or ammunition - WalMart and local gun stores usually carry it (unless WalMart changed things since the last time I happened to get airgun supplies, which was admittedly a while ago).

It's hard to recommend a gun for indoor use - I always bought them based on power and reliability. Only the cheapies are really indoor guns, like that .45 that shoots darts, bb's, and pellets. I can tell you that I own five different airguns, all Crossman.
1377 - original gun, back when it was more metal than plastic. Pump action pistol.
Powerline .45 - I'd avoid this one. It's a pain to load, the trigger was always very heavy on every one I ever pulled, and it's CO2.
.357 - great pellet pistol, three different barrels available, six or twelve round clips, downside CO2. And don't EVER fire bbs in this thing, cuz they fit and work until after a couple of hundred rounds when one gets jammed and completely screws up the barrel
powerline 1200? - it's a grey stock rifle, twelve round clip held in a false magazine (one of the more realistic looking air guns), again downside is that it's CO2 (goes in below the barrel)
Then there was this pump rifle that I don't remember the number of. Great all around rifle though (and it wasn't the 880).

I guess my best recommendation would be for a pump - you can control the power then, whereas with co2 you can't (plus you have to buy them cartidges). A .177 is more common to find supplies for than a .22, and usually slightly lower FPS ratings. In my experience, Daisy tends to be cheaply constructed, Crossman much better. There there's all the smaller companies who may practically be gunsmiths or might be Red Ryder clones.




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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 03:46 AM
In a previous post I said I had a Marksman.... actually it was a crossman. Pistol that you could buy a rifle stock for... It was pump.

Despite setting a 3-pump rule and the rules of No shooting above the neck.... I highly discourage Pellet gun fights. Some moron always goes that extra inch... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Dang, Steve.... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Yeah... lets not argue the fact that I was a moron for playing... Noted. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 01:02 PM
I guess the first question is how much are you willing to spend? The second is how do you plan to use the pullet gun?

I've probably shot them all but I only own two now-a-days...both fairly highend models. One is a carry over from my highschool days when I shot 10-m Air Rifle matches in JROTC. It's a Feinwerkbau 600 with a fully adjustable stock and it's a single stroke. No repetive pumping...and unfortunatly not very adjustable in that regard...It's dead accuate though. When I was competing, I routinely shot 1/4" groups with it in the unsupported, standing(off-hand) position. Shooting it in prone or kneeling, you could circumsize a gnat at 10m /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . It's pricey though...about $1400.


The only other pellet gun I still own is a 9mm, RWS model derived from the 707 called the Ultra that I've used to quietly dispose of pests that might otherwise suffer needlessly and make a bunch of noise if shot with a .177 or .22 caliber air rifle that didn't produce an instantly fatal wound. I custom swage 80gr domed pellets for it because the ammunition is very hard to find here in the US. But it's got 11 power settings and can be used in the house for target practice on the lower settings without a problem. Of course, on the higher settings, you can hunt just about any North American small game without a problem. I've chono'd my 80gr pellets out of this thing at 880fps and higher so I know it's also quite feasible to kill a man with it. Needless to say, I'm a little more careful with this one than I might be with most air guns. This one is probably the coolest air gun I've ever owned but it wasn't cheap either at $500. My only complaint is having to go to dive shops to get the cylinders charged. Some dive sops are cool and sell me the compressed air with no problems...other want me to sign off on a waiver of liability because they've been told that you can only sell compressed air to certified divers.

Now, in all honesty...MOST folks can be and are quite happy with a $30, Walmart special from Daisy. I started on a Daisy 850 in .177 that I must have fired a four or five thousand rounds out of over the course of my early childhood. Loved every minute of it and harrassed any bird dumb enough to sit on a telephone line within 75 yards of my parents house. Of course, back then most cities treated air guns different from firearms. I do know that I finally wore the cylinder out in that thing but that was about the time I started shooting seriously in JROTC. It was then that my uncle bought the Feinwerkbau for me so I could continue to practice at home and during the summers when I was away from the air rifle I'd been issued by the school.

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