What I have learned in this forum...

[gaberax]

Since I have been a member of this forum, I have learned a lot of things.

I have learned that there are a lot of warm, wonderful, smart, and creative people around the world; not only here at home but in places I only dream about visiting, like Austrailia, Sweden, The Netherlands, England, New Zealand, Canada, et al. People of all races, ages and genders, Friends from all walks of life.

I have agreed with the opinions of some and disagreed with others. I have seen heated arguments and debates, sometimes causing those debating to leave in a huff or slowly faded away as if wounded. Agree or disagree, I have felt the loss when one single "voice" that I have come to know and appreciate, is silenced by it's absence.

I have come to hear the wonderful differences in the voices, by way of slang, or the tone of the message, or rhythm of the words in the posts. Each voice unique to itself yet representative of the country of origin.

I have learned to be a bit more broad-minded, a bit more forgiving and a lot less critical. I have come to appreciate how easily I can misunderstand someones intention or be misunderstood in turn. I have come to learn the power of the smilie. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I have "felt the pain" when someone was down, celebrated and shared in someones victory or success, and worried with someone in their troubles. I have felt a part of a community, something grander than myself. To me, this has been a place where technology has a soul.

I think this feeling is what many of the people who visited URU "LIVE" must have felt. Now, in the aftermath of URU "LIVE"'s closing, I marvel at the number of locked threads there that attempt to temper the raw shared pain. Here, in this older, more settled forum, I notice that there is not a great need to lock threads. Members of this forum, for the most part, mind their manners. Here we have been shielded from the brunt of that pain, finding comfort in the familiarity of our friends in this forum.

But lately, I have noticed cold winds blowing through this forum; winds of accusation, recrimination, anger, mistrust, a lack of respect and a lack of understanding that threatens the spirit of this place.

I had hoped to help ameliorate the situation as best I could by volunteering as a Moderator.
I see now that that is a daunting task. A real challenge. For it is my opinion that in this forum, the trick is to moderate with an even hand. Push too hard and you crush the spirit of it. Not hard enough and it spins out of control.

Sometimes I wonder if I can make or have made a difference at all here.

Regardless, I want to thank you. Those who will read this post and those who have gone. Thank you all for the things you have taught me.

And so I have to keep reminding myself what a great experience it is, hangin out in this forum, learning as I go, with these people.

Grrr...
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[gaberax]

Since I have been a member of this forum, I have learned a lot of things.

I have learned that there are a lot of warm, wonderful, smart, and creative people around the world; not only here at home but in places I only dream about visiting, like Austrailia, Sweden, The Netherlands, England, New Zealand, Canada, et al. People of all races, ages and genders, Friends from all walks of life.

I have agreed with the opinions of some and disagreed with others. I have seen heated arguments and debates, sometimes causing those debating to leave in a huff or slowly faded away as if wounded. Agree or disagree, I have felt the loss when one single "voice" that I have come to know and appreciate, is silenced by it's absence.

I have come to hear the wonderful differences in the voices, by way of slang, or the tone of the message, or rhythm of the words in the posts. Each voice unique to itself yet representative of the country of origin.

I have learned to be a bit more broad-minded, a bit more forgiving and a lot less critical. I have come to appreciate how easily I can misunderstand someones intention or be misunderstood in turn. I have come to learn the power of the smilie. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I have "felt the pain" when someone was down, celebrated and shared in someones victory or success, and worried with someone in their troubles. I have felt a part of a community, something grander than myself. To me, this has been a place where technology has a soul.

I think this feeling is what many of the people who visited URU "LIVE" must have felt. Now, in the aftermath of URU "LIVE"'s closing, I marvel at the number of locked threads there that attempt to temper the raw shared pain. Here, in this older, more settled forum, I notice that there is not a great need to lock threads. Members of this forum, for the most part, mind their manners. Here we have been shielded from the brunt of that pain, finding comfort in the familiarity of our friends in this forum.

But lately, I have noticed cold winds blowing through this forum; winds of accusation, recrimination, anger, mistrust, a lack of respect and a lack of understanding that threatens the spirit of this place.

I had hoped to help ameliorate the situation as best I could by volunteering as a Moderator.
I see now that that is a daunting task. A real challenge. For it is my opinion that in this forum, the trick is to moderate with an even hand. Push too hard and you crush the spirit of it. Not hard enough and it spins out of control.

Sometimes I wonder if I can make or have made a difference at all here.

Regardless, I want to thank you. Those who will read this post and those who have gone. Thank you all for the things you have taught me.

And so I have to keep reminding myself what a great experience it is, hangin out in this forum, learning as I go, with these people.

Grrr...
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[CK9]

wow, powerful message, gab.

Just a little tip: don't go lax! You go lax on just one occasion, you have a whole group of people walking over you.

BTW, I think we could all do with a group hug, even my curious OP2 forum friend who poped-up in the hug thread.

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Thragsahg kwagegat! Nuglar sagstrelsahg strel thansahg Gresat.

[gaberax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CK9:
Just a little tip: don't go lax! You go lax on just one occasion, you have a whole group of people walking over you.
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CK! YOU ARE BANNED FROM THE FORUM!

j/k http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Thanks for the tip!

Grrr...
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[CK9]

I went lax on the forum I mod, oh boy, was that a mistake! I just recently got a little control back.

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Thragsahg kwagegat! Nuglar sagstrelsahg strel thansahg Gresat.

[gaberax]

I was promoted to a manager position once. The hardest thing was that I to learn that I was no longer one of the "guys"...I was the "boss". I tried to be fair and even tempered but I did have to break bad occsionally. It wasn't easy but I got pretty good at it.
I'm still friends with several of those folks and some of them tell my I was the best boss they ever had...not too tough, not too easy.
I hope their not just yanking my chain.

Grrr...
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[Alahmnat]

Now you know why I'm losing my hair at 19, Gab http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

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[gaberax]

"It's not the hair on your head that counts...it's the hair on your chest!" ~ Sean Connery (and a personal favorite.)

Grrr...
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[Alahmnat]

Oh. Well, I'm still screwed then http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

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[N.V.M.]

hell, i noticed this and i'm new here. i "talk" at a few other forums, and sorry to say, this one is missing the star quality, as Simon(American Idol) would say.

[kreeden]

I'm afriend that you took your position at a rough time Gab . But yes , you have and continue to make a different , because you care . Al , that goes for you too . I know that it doesn't seem that way at times . But the Mods on this forum are respected , even by those who may disagree with them it some time . { Well , by most at lest http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif } And that is something , believe me . You have a thankless job , so take the respect . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And I'm talking about a respect that runs much deeper then politeness .

The problem that we are facing isn't with the Mods . Mods are just people trying to do their best . But sometimes there has to be a higher court , a court of appeal . And that is where Ubi is letting us all down , Mods and forumites alike .

BTW Gab , any Troll is a Troll of mine . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[BobF]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by N.V.M.:
hell, i noticed this and i'm new here. i "talk" at a few other forums, and sorry to say, this one is missing the star quality, as Simon(American Idol) would say.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have no idea what you call 'star quality' but, until recently this was a very informal, easy going group. Kis said it well, we had differences but soon it went back to fun. So maybe you just haven't seen our group in the better ways of only a few weeks past.

[rwwllms]

Gab, when I nominated you and sky for the mod positions I knew what I was doing. The old mods had gotten, well, old. They were hardly ever around, or if they were, they weren't taking part. We needed some new, young blood. Out of all that expressed an interest in being a mod, you and sky seemed to be the best fit. I have every bit of confidence that the two of you are going to be fair and fun mods.

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Men rise from one ambition to another; first they seek to secure themselves from attack, and then they attack others.
Machiavelli

[lettice]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by N.V.M.:
hell, i noticed this and i'm new here. i "talk" at a few other forums, and sorry to say, this one is missing the star quality, as Simon(American Idol) would say.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps you should stick around for a while, you may notice the difference, the stars here are the forumites. It is a forum of diversity and I hope tolerance. I feel that I am just a very small part of a group of wonderful people all with something to offer others. It's human nature to react differently to some of the topics discussed but on the whole most people are considerate. I read many posts but rarely comment on contentious ones but that's just me I am not a debater, still, I still enjoy reading others points of view, it widens my view.

To Gab, I'm sure you are going to be an Ace Mod and control us well. I love the points you made and agree wholeheartedly.

Thanks Gab.


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[Jojo9999]

Wowee Wow Wow... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Gab you and Sky are Great Mods... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif...so don't push anything that should be pushed or shouldn't like a panic button.(jojo wishes she had Gab rather extensive files of pics)...I did that once.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif...I pushed the wrong button in Voltec.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif...and was electrocuted.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif...so now I just take it easy, dispense sacred carrots, and get Squee ready for his soon departure...that and wear rubber shoes when ever I go into Voltic!... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif..so that I do not get shocked again!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Green Winds
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BTW.........Have a Carrot.

When The Ax Walked Into The Forest The Trees Said "Look, The Handle Is One Of Us"...Alice Walker

"Old Age Is No Place For Sissies"...Betty Davis (who else)?

[PrincessXenobia]

Gab, you and Sky have everything it takes to help this forum be a fun place for everyone to play -- you are intelligent, reasonable, fun-loving, friendly and you care about this place and the people who come here. Laugh with us, cry with us, share thoughts with us and smack us around when we need it -- you'd do the same whether you were a mod or not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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[CK9]

I just the majority of he forumites realise that we mustn't (there's an odd word) let these things hold us back.

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[Speedyserd]

But also we need to realize that some people are sensitive about different issues and we need to respect that as a whole. Since I've been here anyways, I've leanred a lot about different societies and world cultures just from my experiences in here. I learned early on who not to pick fights with, how to just be patient in some people, and understand other people's senses of humor. I agree with Gab, the smilies are good indicators on what people mean to be funny or serious.

Studying gives you knowledge. Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. I am learning how to be corrupt.

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[BobF]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Speedyserd:
But also we need to realize that some people are sensitive about different issues and we need to respect that as a whole. Since I've been here anyways, I've leanred a lot about different societies and world cultures just from my experiences in here. I learned early on who not to pick fights with, how to just be patient in some people, and understand other people's senses of humor. I agree with Gab, the smilies are good indicators on what people mean to be funny or serious.

_Studying gives you knowledge. Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. I am learning how to be corrupt._

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Does this mean that after 3 years plus I should learn how to use smilies? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Being aware and using your knowledge is a good thing. On the other hand I sometimes see folks trying to enforce their Politicaly Correct ideas on all folks. That can be an aggravation.

[skylark2025]

I learn something from you guys everyday! Thanx for the confidence PX. We are changing now and what we become depends on us as a group. It is sad to lose so many people that were so important to this community but we cant let that stop us or this forum will die and we will learn no more from each other.

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[Speedyserd]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobF:

Does this mean that after 3 years plus I should learn how to use smilies? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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YES!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Studying gives you knowledge. Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. I am learning how to be corrupt.

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[kreeden]

God Bob , I hope that I'm not one of them . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Politicaly Correct ... that is a dirty word in my books .

I know that we disagree at times , about politics ... which is another dirty word IMHO . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif But I do respect your point of view and I see it only as discussion . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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" And you will remember what it is to know the warmth of an animal's heart."
from an old tale told by an old people

[BobF]

Kreeden - if you start being Politically Correct I will be telling you.

For me the PC crowd is always lieing to avoid telling the truth. I am not height disavadantaged or weight disadvantaged but I am tall and overweight. There is no such thing as a 'No Outlet' street (once in you can't get out) but 'Dead End' is isn't allowed and that is exactly the correct description. Oh well.

[kreeden]

lol Yea I know what you mean Bob . Sometimes they go over broad . It is one thing to be polite . It is another to ... whatever it is that they are doing ??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Personally , I hate the term " Challenged ". Aren't we all " challenged " ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Ooops . Sorry . A little off topic . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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" And you will remember what it is to know the warmth of an animal's heart."
from an old tale told by an old people

[Sirrus Black]

well I have learned that there are other people in this world who like MYST just as much as me

When in doubt, press Console

[Speedyserd]

lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That is one of the good things about this forum, sirusblack. Isn't it great to know that you're not alone? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Studying gives you knowledge. Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. I am learning how to be corrupt.

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[Sirrus Black]

you know all my other gamer friends have differnt likings like I like MYST while my friend Erik likes hAlf-life and my other friend Alex likes Unreal 2003-2004

When in doubt, press Console

[Sirrus Black]

But my only true real MYST fan friend I had died last Dec.
see: For Those Mysters Who Have Gone But Are Not Forgotten....

When in doubt, press Console

[CK9]

you need a hug *big hug*

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[Sirrus Black]

Get away from me!

When in doubt, press Console

[CK9]

lol, you are just like all the paranoid freshmen at my HS. I got three people to accept a hug there today. Total has now reached four.

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[Sirrus Black]

But I'm not a Freshmen, I'm a sophmore

When in doubt, press Console

[CK9]

lol, still lower than me. Junior. Why are you so paranoid, anyway?

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[Sirrus Black]

Like I care I'm probobly bigger than you

When in doubt, press Console

[rwwllms]

CK the cross gender hugging bandit! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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Men rise from one ambition to another; first they seek to secure themselves from attack, and then they attack others.
Machiavelli

[Sirrus Black]

I agree

When in doubt, press Console

[Alahmnat]

There is nothing wrong with hugs http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

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[Sirrus Black]

I agree.

When in doubt, press Console

[CK9]

cross gender? you implying something?

thanks for backing me up Al.

*hugs Ron*

and just to make you have nightmares...
*transforms into dragon*
*gives Ron a kiss on the cheek*
*gargles with mouthwash for several minutes*

*hugs everyone else*

I don't know about you guys, but hugs make me feel better

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[Sirrus Black]

whatever floats your boat

When in doubt, press Console