Pixel Shader??? [Archive] - Ubisoft Forums

JoKER_24

03-26-2004, 09:11 PM

http://www.meshuggah.4fo.de/ShaderIntro.htm

Basically it helps to make 'pretty pictures' and if you graphics card doesn't support that then this game wont run on your computer, but if somehow it does work then the game will look crappy (maybe thats too strong of a word to use).
Hope that helps a bit.

Seems like a lot of people are asking questions\having problems with this. Might be a good idea to sticky it??....

[This message was edited by JoKER_24 on Fri March 26 2004 at 09:46 PM.]

Samuelt

03-26-2004, 09:36 PM

you have two options

1)Go out and Buy yourself a new card

2)Sit tight untill UBI releases a patch to support more cards. They even said themselves "More Cards may be supported after release"

CTU_Soviet

03-26-2004, 09:51 PM

What graphics card you got man?

TheEarthWorm

03-27-2004, 12:52 AM

Me? I've got no freakin' idea.

JoKER_24

03-27-2004, 01:02 AM

If you want to find out, click your start menu, goto run and type dxdiag when the program pops up click on the display tab. The info is there (Name/Manufacturer..).

angel_sherri

03-27-2004, 02:09 AM

i have the same problem too!! Is their anywhere i can download a pixel shader off the internet

Andras11

03-27-2004, 03:10 AM

I have an MX440 and the game will not run due to a pixel shading problem. Have downloaded the latest Nvidia drivers and still have a problem. How daft can these people be ??? Is there a fix for this or do I just go get a refund and spend my money on something that works. Of course I could just upgrade my PC everytime UBI release a new game.....fools !

LunaticHigh

03-27-2004, 03:36 AM

Oh, damn, I was looking forward to this... looks like I have the same problem as Andras11, booooooo...

CRWT_GunNut

03-27-2004, 05:00 AM

i hope this gets fixed soon i can't take my copy back http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Colevant

03-27-2004, 05:18 AM

u should all see this as a wake up sign. You have outdated cards, i dont care if u just got it. Its outdated! Anyone with a brain could tell u that. You would be smart to go get another card, cuase there is no way u will run doom 3 or hl2 or any other new game that is to come out. If u do get any of those to run, its going to have to be in very low settings all around and u will still get like 20 fps max. Just saved up 200 dollars and get urself a mid-ranged card that will last u for a good 2 years before u actually have to upgrade again.
People seem to have forgotten that in the computer industry technology is always growing and changing, and u must keep up with it.
And do research on ur card next time before u buy it, so u dont waste ur money agian.

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CriztyLHazE

03-27-2004, 05:31 AM

LOL! People, a Pixel Shader is part of the HARDWARE on the graphics card. You cannot download one off the internet! LOL!

You'll have to ditch the GF4MX and get a newer (read: supported!) card to play. I know it sucks and it might be supported in the future but you wouldn't want to play it on an MX anyways, it would run like straight a55 (not to mention looking crappy because of no shaders).

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CellAgent51

03-27-2004, 07:17 AM

Eh. A lot of people don't care what a pixel shader is, nor should they have to. I just went through this with my parents. Seems they saw a TV commercial, dad got interested, and Mom picked up the game for him as a surprise.

What they didn't know is to check is the game requirements. Heck they have a pentium 3, 400mhz with a Voodoo3 card in it. It's that old. There needs to be a better way for 'normal' consumers to check their system to see if it works with this game or any high powered game. These people look at the requirements and immedietely their eyes glaze over. They have no clue what all those damn numbers mean. And they have no idea where to start to figure it out, assuming they even want too.

Suffice it to say I have seen this over and over and over again. I feel sorry for non computer savvy consumers that are caught in the upgrade loop. Yes, part of it is their fault. But part of it should be made easier as well.

Colevant

03-27-2004, 07:30 AM

actually no. If they went and spent the money, its their fault. Anyone smart knows to do research on something before they waste their money on it.
ya ever see that 70s show, where red forman is working for bob, and ppl keep coming up to him asking for a refrig. He asks, "well, what are u looking for in a fridge?". and what did his customers reply with? "I dunno, but i like the green color."
I think this is a excelent portrayal of how stupid consumers are. And this is how most of ya ended up with a MX lol.

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CriztyLHazE

03-27-2004, 07:41 AM

LOL, sadly I have to agree.

That 70s Show ownz!

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CellAgent51

03-27-2004, 11:08 AM

I am going to respectfully disagree with you. Game requirements and figuring out what hardware your computer has is too hard for the average non tech savvy computer user. It should be easier. It is uncaring to expect everybody to have the same level of innate computer knowledge that some do.

Now if the consumer displays a complete disregard for any research at all before purchase, then yes, whatever ramifications that purchase has is their own fault. With my parents I had to tell them, "It's your own fault. You should of researched this". Software returns in the good ol' US of A are next to impossible. So they are stuck with a near 50 dollar purchase they can't use.

CriztyLHazE

03-27-2004, 11:13 AM

I fully understand your view on this, as I'm sure my grandparents wouldn't be able to figure it out either. But, if you spent alot of money on a computer (which you probably did) wouldn't you want to make sure you knew what was in it? It's just the fact that people need to pay more attention when they purchase a computer so that they don't run into incompatibilities later down the line.

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Colevant

03-27-2004, 02:33 PM

my grans get computer stuff all the time, but unlike other ppl, they are smart and ask me about what they should get and all before they go and do it. Hense no problems for them. All people need to do is invest time into knowning the items ur buying. I know i do, cuase i dont work for money just to go blow it on something i know nothing about.

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LuckyCT

03-27-2004, 03:45 PM

Alright. I just checked my video card. Then, I checked the supported video card list. Mine is supported. hmmm.... Interesting. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T F***ING WORK!!!!

CriztyLHazE

03-27-2004, 04:07 PM

www.downloadpixelshaders.com (http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com)

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umberto7

03-27-2004, 08:20 PM

I'm having the same problem, with radeon 7500 64 megs...one queston, does the full game gonna solve this problems from the ones who have it?

tks.

TheEarthWorm

03-28-2004, 07:46 AM

Wow, I just gotta say sorry for not being a computer nerd, and knowing what this kind of stuff is I would just expect that Splinter Cell would work...every other game I have has worked on my computer. So just to clear the haze what video card can I get so Cell will work?

umberto7

03-28-2004, 10:24 AM

Single player works perfectly, nor multiplayer because of the pixel shader, why!! :'(

houstonboy01

03-28-2004, 10:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheEarthWorm:
I downloaded the SC:PT MP and it says I don't meet the system requirements I am missing the "Required Pixel Shader Support." I got no idea what it is but man I don't care what posts I've seen sayin' that its jammed pack full of problems I just wanna play it. Gimme some help...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Pixel shaders are those things that give the game the kool graphical effects. new games have em. Only new cards support them. The mx series do not have them

johnny2122

03-28-2004, 10:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com

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houstonboy01

03-28-2004, 10:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheEarthWorm:
Wow, I just gotta say sorry for not being a computer nerd, and knowing what this kind of stuff is I would just expect that Splinter Cell would work...every other game I have has worked on my computer. So just to clear the haze what video card can I get so _Cell_ will work?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
why do you have to be acomputer nerd? Its pretty simple.

houstonboy01

03-28-2004, 10:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by johnny2122:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! MAN the guy was joking!!! There is no such thing as a downloadable pixel shader. Its all in the hard ware.Your video card has it or doesnt!!! Gosh people.Its not that hard!!!!!!! You dont have to be a nerd to figure it out.

Angered

03-28-2004, 11:17 AM

Well, most of the gamers are teenagers anyway who almost all are techy enough to know what hardware they have. :P
These are games, they always pushed the hardware to the extreme, 'bin like this since the first 'computer' game was created, someone should have noticed.

houstonboy01

03-28-2004, 11:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Angered:
Well, most of the gamers are teenagers anyway who almost all are techy enough to know what hardware they have. :P
These are games, they always pushed the hardware to the extreme, 'bin like this since the first 'computer' game was created, someone should have noticed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
and honestly its all about reading. I really give crap what a pixel shader does. All i know it makes the game look pretty. All you have to do is read whats on your computer and compare it to the system req on the box. generally if the number is smaller in your computer than the sestem req, its not supported!!! Thats it!!!! Now about the vid cards that for some reason people get confused about.

There are two main manufacturers for video cards(there the things that connect to your mointor and display the picture)

Nvidia and ATI are the two giant heads of the industry.

Here are the lists of the only video cards you should ever buy!! Only this list!!!

Nividia: GeforceFX series and the geforce4ti series... not mx series!!!!!!!

ATI: the 9000, 9200, 9500, 9700, 9800 series!!

All those cards i have listed have pixel shaders!! Its that simple. plus the box should say 128mb or a higher, plus agp!!

Other words for video card:graphics accelorater
graphics card, plus multimedia accelorator.

So if you buy a computer from a dell or compaq or something, make sure it has one of those cards listed above! Also dont get anything that says integrated!!! Thats a big no no!

its that simple

[This message was edited by houstonboy01 on Sun March 28 2004 at 11:58 AM.]

Colevant

03-28-2004, 01:04 PM

NO KIDDING PEOPLE! if u had a computer with like only 800mhz proc, would u go out and buy something that says the min was a 2ghz proc?? NO< u wouldnt. So why must u do the excate same thing on this game and complain then that it doesnt work? IT TELLS U ON TEH BOX IT DOESNT WORK! IF U CANT READ, MAYBE U SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL! ( yes, i know i made spelling errors, i dont care, im lazy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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CriztyLHazE

03-28-2004, 02:54 PM

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http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! MAN the guy was joking!!! There is no such thing as a downloadable pixel shader. Its all in the hard ware.Your video card has it or doesnt!!! Gosh people.Its not that hard!!!!!!! You dont have to be a nerd to figure it out.
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laflor

03-28-2004, 03:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
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Originally posted by johnny2122:

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Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! MAN the guy was joking!!! There is no such thing as a downloadable pixel shader. Its all in the hard ware.Your video card has it or doesnt!!! Gosh people.Its not that hard!!!!!!! You dont have to be a nerd to figure it out.
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Dude. It isn't that funny. I for one meet the requirements and can play it. I also spend a helluva lot less time messin' with my puter than I used to.

You shouldn't be so mean. Not everyone spends time reading benchmark plots or tech data on thier video cards. As for me, I don't see the point of using pixel shaders exclusively. As far as I know, I've seen plenty of visually pleasing games that don't specifically require them.

Chill dude.

scape8

03-28-2004, 03:22 PM

I have a laptop, I cannot upgrade!

CriztyLHazE

03-28-2004, 03:38 PM

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posted by CriztyLHaze Sun March 28 2004 03:36 PM

Single player and multiplayer are two ENTIRELY different games.

If you can't read a system requirements box and/or you don't know what graphics card you have: you have no place buying PC games. Go get yourself a console instead of spamming the boards with the same stupid questions. Instead of asking what a Pixel Shader is bla-bla-bla (I've heard this over 20 fu**ing times in ONE day)...LOOK IT UP. Get off your a55, stop spamming the boards; if the game says your card is unsupported - it is UNSUPPORTED. Which means, if you CAN find a way to make it work, whether by software emulating a hardware function or what (which makes me laugh), it will run like crap, look like crap, and you will wonder why you spent all that time whining and complaining about trying to get it working in the first place.

Let this topic die. Read the supported video card list. And please people, don't lie to each other - it is likely that GF4MX and older ATI cards will NOT be supported as they would have to change the entire game. The game revolves around lighting and Pixel Shaders play a massive role in this. If you wan't to play, get a new card. END OF STORY.
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laflor

03-28-2004, 03:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
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posted by CriztyLHaze Sun March 28 2004 03:36 PM

Single player and multiplayer are two ENTIRELY different games.

If you can't read a system requirements box and/or you don't know what graphics card you have: you have no place buying PC games....more *****in' removed... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude. Take a pill. That is a stupid quote, and you know it. You seem to be wound pretty tight. There are hundrends, if not thousands who bought this game. This site is gonna get plenty more of the same questions for at least a couple of weeks (if not a couple of months).

Even though you may have posted here quite a bit, some people signed up just get get some help for thier current problem. You being an ARSEHOLE (you know what I mean) isn't doing anything except making them feel like idiots. You shouldn't take the weight of Ubisoft Forums on your shoulder.

I have a feeling that within the next couple of months, you are gonna burst into a million pieces with everyone askin' the same question over and over. Go have a beer, in fact, go have one on me. And while you are at it, go smoke a nice cigar. Everything will be alright.

:P

CriztyLHazE

03-28-2004, 03:55 PM

I prefer a blunt. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Anyways, people just need to start using the search function. Not only would they find the answers they are looking for, but it would be much faster than waiting for people to respond to them, if they even do.

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houstonboy01

03-28-2004, 09:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by laflor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CriztyLHazE:
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http://www.downloadpixelshaders.com

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! MAN the guy was joking!!! There is no such thing as a downloadable pixel shader. Its all in the hard ware.Your video card has it or doesnt!!! Gosh people.Its not that hard!!!!!!! You dont have to be a nerd to figure it out.
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CD-Key in Use error? We fixed it: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=954105331&m=408100903 for info/fix.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dude. It isn't that funny. I for one meet the requirements and can play it. I also spend a helluva lot less time messin' with my puter than I used to.

You shouldn't be so mean. Not everyone spends time reading benchmark plots or tech data on thier video cards. As for me, I don't see the point of using pixel shaders exclusively. As far as I know, I've seen plenty of visually pleasing games that don't specifically require them.

Chill dude.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i dont read benchmark plots or whatever. Infact i really dont know what a pixel shader does!! All i know it makes the game pretty, and its new technology that is hardware related. Infact, ill say that im more active outside the computer than most of you people, since i actually play basketball for my school! So nope no computer fat *** junky here. Just know the basics