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Fischer-The-2nd
05-22-2004, 04:17 AM
Well I think we should discuss this http://www.chesscentral.com/chessmaster-10th-edition.htm (ebutaljib has posted it, but I think it requires a new topic) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

[This message was edited by Fischer-The-2nd on Sat May 22 2004 at 04:15 AM.]

Fischer-The-2nd
05-22-2004, 04:17 AM
Well I think we should discuss this http://www.chesscentral.com/chessmaster-10th-edition.htm (ebutaljib has posted it, but I think it requires a new topic) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

[This message was edited by Fischer-The-2nd on Sat May 22 2004 at 04:15 AM.]

Fischer-The-2nd
05-22-2004, 05:37 AM
And I should perhaps add this: http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/chessmasterx_pc.htm
I assume we can call this the official version of it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

Fischer-The-2nd
05-22-2004, 01:11 PM
Well I thought I would give my view on Chessmaster 10th Edition looking at this page: http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/chessmasterx_pc.htm

Before anything else I would like to point out that the title of the game was quite unexpected, at least by me. Chessmaster 10000 does also sound a little "stupid" so to speak. So it is a good move by Ubisoft to call it Chessmaster 10th Edition. It is a simple and logical title for the game, but also a good one imo.

The new Chessmaster Academy

I suppose this is what used to be the classroom in previous titles.
It says that both Josh Waitzkin and Larry Christiansen have contributed to the game. It does not mention Bruce Pandolfini so I suppose he has not contributed to the game this time. At least not to the Academy "room".
I think that Josh Waitzkins and Larry Christiansens new tutorials will be similar to what we have seen in previous titles. That is the old tutorials plus the new ones added.
I do not think we should expect anything revolutionary here.
But of course getting tutorials from both Josh Waitzkin and Larry Christiansen is enough to satisfy me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

A totally revised interface

I am a little stunned here (in the good way). I thought the look would be very identical to the PS2 version of Chessmaster. Looking at the 5 screenshots here: http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/Screenshots.htm?pId=1103&sId=6218 I must say I am very impressed. In earlier Chessmaster versions there is a problem with getting all the windows placed correctly around the screen, plus having a 3D board in the centre. You can't avoid thinking that there is too little space on the screen even though you are in a very high resolution. To me it seems that this problem has been fixed. Removing the icon bar in the left side of the screen (the one that has shortcuts for the game room/library/class room etc.) was a smart thing to do.
The colour theme and design of objects is a matter of taste. I like it. I think this is a part that people will either love a lot or hate a lot.
Generally it seems to me that the new design and interface kicks ***. Fritz 8, Chessmase 8, Hoyle Majestic Chess and earlier CM versions.....Go home! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Full-featured online chess module

The part of earlier Chessmaster games that has been lacking a lot compared to other online places.
Adding rakings is a good thing. But it all comes down to if there will a multiplayer community at all. There is not much point in having rankings if there is only 3 players who regularly plays online. But if there will be a smaller or bigger community then having rankings can only be good. After all it will encourage players to return again.
Adding a tournament feature for online play can only be good, something I have missed in Chessmaster 9000. I am a little unaware about the "utilize teaching tools". I think it has something to do with analysing games together, perhaps posting them for others to see? Perhaps even allowing creation of your own tutorials, what do I know.
Anyway it seems that they have made the online feature of the game a lot more appealing. Then it is just up to the players to use it.

More fun for the whole family

What is it with these animated chess sets?
I do not hope they make out 75% of the entire board collection you can choose from.
I know they are aimed for younger people so I will not really comment on them. I am young, though not so young that I use that kind of boards http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

A comprehensive chess engine

"experience the all-new edition of the King engine".
That is good, really good. But also expected. I do not think anyone jumped off their chair when they read that.

Intermediate and advanced player options

The statistic system must be similar to the one in the PS2 version. But a nice add compared to the "player profile" from earlier titles, that did not show much else than wins/loses.
It says that there will be simultaneous exhibitions. I think that it is a great concept that I will use a lot. Though I am a little unaware if it is for singleplayer and/or multiplayer. If it is for singleplayer how will the engine react to having more than one board going on at the same time? If it is for the multiplayer will it be like the simultaneous exhibitions on other online places?

Lastly, where is Fischer Random Chess? They should defiantly add this playing style if they still have time. It is even better than normal chess.
Also it looks that it will be out for Xbox as well, but how about PS2 and/or Gamecube?

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

darthmix
05-22-2004, 03:39 PM
I agree that the new design looks fantastic - very modern and attractive. As for the animated sets, well, I guess that has to do with the way Chessmaster positions itself in the market. It's the program everyone's heard of, and as such it tries to be all things to all people: tutorial program, computer opponent, analysis tool, online gateway, and (now) "battle chess" style animated game for the kids. Some might criticize this jack-of-all-trates-master-of-none approach, but I think that's exactly what Chessmaster is supposed to be. It's a bridge between kids/beginners who are just getting started and the more serious world of chess. That's why it's such a great all-in-one program.

I'm not going to use the animated boards myself. (Well, maybe I will once to see what they're like...) But I'm sure they'll get more kids involved in chess. And I'm happy that Chessmaster is following its own path instead of trying to compete with Chessbase, which is really only for advanced players. The program knows what it is - i.e., everything most players will ever need - and that's good.

Fischer-The-2nd
05-23-2004, 04:40 AM
Yeah, this is the 11th title. Haha, wasn't even aware of this.
Anyway, Chessmaster 10th Edition is still the best title and it would be better if it actually was the 10th title http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

Tazzak
05-24-2004, 02:45 PM
Does anyone know if the "all-new edition of the King engine" is UCI or is still a winboard compatible engine?

Fischer-The-2nd
05-25-2004, 05:01 PM
Don't think anyone (apart from the Chessmaster team) knows. Though I assume that the King will still be a winboard engine. They haven't changed to UCI (Universal Chess Interface) before, so I doubt they'll do it this time. But we'll see.

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Fischer-The-2nd

Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann

Chess is really 99 percent calculation. - Soltis.

Modern chess is too much concerned with things like
pawn structure. Forget it - checkmate ends the game. - Short

Mindaugas7
06-06-2004, 07:20 AM
Ye, we'll see....

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JVMerlino
06-11-2004, 11:27 AM
To answer a few questions:

1) The King will still be a Winboard engine, and it will still have copy protection using the OPK method as in previous CM versions. CMX000 (as I like to call it) will not support UCI.

2) This will actually be the 12th version of Chessmaster (for the PC), because there was a CM4000 AND a "CM4000 Turbo". The original version came on floppies and the Turbo version came on CD with "multimedia content". Remember that buzzword? :-)

jm

GX_Yoda
06-11-2004, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> This will actually be the 12th version of Chessmaster (for the PC) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That just makes you wonder even more why they have called it the 10th edition.
I guess it sells better with that name. Just the word "edition" makes you think that there are more games and more to buy.

&gt;&gt;Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda&lt;&lt;

martinbeaver
06-29-2004, 04:23 AM
what i'd like to know more about is the game analysis features. something more user friendly would be nice that can analyse your games and give easy to understand advice rather than a set of variations with +/- at the end of a 17 move variation!