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11-02-2003, 01:30 PM

Athena Sword Delay
The community has spoken and we've listened.
In keeping with our dedication to create excellent products, the mission pack for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Athena Sword, will now be releasing in Q1 2004. The later release will allow us to deliver the quality product we know our fans expect.

-- Geiger out...

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE FANS EXPECT......

Its to do with the competition out there....

NOVALOGIC - Joint OPS out then so you wish to release it at same time. Why am i so right about this then I will tell you.

You did the same trick when BHD was about to be released. BHD was put back and then UBI did the exact same. Seems after all the hassle the SO CALLED FANS went through regarding all the problems you gave us with RVS you now starting to show the same with ATHENA SWORD. I know there will be some funny replies to this post but I am saying this because at end of day the last thing UBI will do is to admit to holding back on products for the sake of commercial challenge of other software companys. BUT use the fans as an excuse to delayt your product is very poor on your part.

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11-02-2003, 01:30 PM

XyZspineZyX

11-02-2003, 03:44 PM

Hey, Ubi had a window of opportunity for my cash with their original release date. Now playing Call of Duty and XCP clan has done the same (or will be within a week). That's 12 AS sales, customers gone in two days after Cod was released and more to come.
Invisible War (Deus Ex II) is out next. And on and on.
The Heavy hitters are coming out now and RVS Athena has been benched and it will probably be sent to the minors never to be heard from again. Something like UBI's anouncements/support here.

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XyZspineZyX

11-02-2003, 03:49 PM

well i dont care if it comes out the same time, im hooked on every single tom clancy game ive ever played, they know its a winner everytime so thats why they think they can f*** us about, its not right but the fans shud come 1st considering were the ones putting there paycheque on there desk

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XyZspineZyX

11-02-2003, 04:40 PM

your theory makes no sense. Why would they hold it until a competitor is on the shelf? It would make more sense to rush it out so that it is alone with no compitition going by your release theory.

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11-02-2003, 05:35 PM

Its all these positive Ions, man.. they're @#$%ing us up!

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11-02-2003, 06:02 PM

NeM_UK wrote:
- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE FANS EXPECT......
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- Its to do with the competition out there....
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- NOVALOGIC - Joint OPS out then so you wish to
- release it at same time. Why am i so right about
- this then I will tell you.

You realize that this makes no logical or business sense whatsoever, right? No business wants to compete with anyone else. They want to the consumers to themselves. If they are able to put out a product before a competitor, they will move heaven and earth to do so. This way they have an unchallenged selling opportunity.

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XyZspineZyX

11-02-2003, 06:36 PM

Witness wrote:
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- You realize that this makes no logical or business
- sense whatsoever, right? No business wants to
- compete with anyone else. They want to the
- consumers to themselves. If they are able to put
- out a product before a competitor, they will
- move heaven and earth to do so. This way they have
- an unchallenged selling opportunity.
-

Which was my original point--the window has passed- there was really nothing (major FPS) to compete with if they had keep to their original date. Now I am in no rush to get it.
Hopefully it will fix everything when it does come out. And at an add-on price too ( less than 20.00 bucks).Then I will add it back to my purchase list.

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XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 09:11 PM

ok simple i make no sense, OK here goes:-

I worked in retail industry for 5 years and also have business degree so hmmmm lets see i know sweet FA of what im on about lmfao. you guys stick to your game playing whilst the ppl who have the skill and qualification of telling you whats going on tell you what ya on about, so far most of the UBI moderators have had nothing more than sarcastic attitude about the game itself and the problems with the so called UBI fans. however moderators have sweet FA experience in the business industry so unless your actually work for ubi in the business sector dont talk so much BS to me coz like you do with the upset so called UBI fans all you do is laugh whichj i will gladly do to you http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif simple. At end of the day i will gladly listen to someone who has creditation and knowledge about business managment to tell me different about what im going on about coz it seems those posted aint exactly sure what im saying therefore not experienced enough to answer this post.

OOoops. now here is a shock hey admins.

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Message Edited on 11/05/0309:15PM by NeM_UK

XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 09:36 PM

lol, you don't need a business degree to see the flaws in your theory. I'd say a 12 year old can understand what we said.

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XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 09:37 PM

Should have gotten your degree in English then we could tell what the hell you are trying to say.

XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 09:44 PM

How does waiting until another game is released help boost sales? You didnt once tell us that, you just said what theyre doing. We all know when the game was released, thank you for reminding us. Then all you did was talk about the admins and said you wanted to talk to someone qualified for business...

But yet you still didnt state how this helps out their sales...

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11-05-2003, 10:08 PM

I have a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and I minored in Business Administration at the University of Iowa, Nemesis. I also work for an energy startup in Boston as the Chief Information Officer and helped secure Series A investments from a large Electric Utility company in this crappy economy. Yeah, I have a semi-clue about business.

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Message Edited on 11/05/0305:10PM by Witness

XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 10:28 PM

DayGlow wrote:
- your theory makes no sense. Why would they hold it
- until a competitor is on the shelf? It would make
- more sense to rush it out so that it is alone with
- no compitition going by your release theory.
-

Im with DayGlow on this one. Good strategy is to get your product out before the competition.

XyZspineZyX

11-05-2003, 10:34 PM

NeM_UK wrote:
- ok simple i make no sense, OK here goes:-
-
- I worked in retail industry for 5 years and also
- have business degree so hmmmm lets see i know sweet
- FA of what im on about lmfao. you guys stick to
- your game playing whilst the ppl who have the skill
- and qualification of telling you whats going on tell
- you what ya on about, so far most of the UBI
- moderators have had nothing more than sarcastic
- attitude about the game itself and the problems with
- the so called UBI fans. however moderators have
- sweet FA experience in the business industry so
- unless your actually work for ubi in the business
- sector dont talk so much BS to me coz like you do
- with the upset so called UBI fans all you do is
- laugh whichj i will gladly do to you http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif simple. At
- end of the day i will gladly listen to someone who
- has creditation and knowledge about business
- managment to tell me different about what im going
- on about coz it seems those posted aint exactly sure
- what im saying therefore not experienced enough to
- answer this post.
-
-

Sorry man, but your post does not sound like somone with a degree.

XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 02:58 AM

Wow, let your competitor sell his product for a month or so without competition on the shelf. Meanwhile back the development studios you brace yourself take a loss because a couple extra months expenses are adding up, and you've got a development team to pay while a couple months of no product aren't exactly helping you pay the bills. Yeah! Sounds like a brilliant idea! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

They might not release the game on time because it's not ready and to be honest is a buggy POS that will probably never be ready, but delaying a finished product so that a competitor gets a signifigant head start? Not likely.

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XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 03:09 AM

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Lol, yeah you really got them there! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 04:48 AM

NeM_UK wrote:
- ok simple i make no sense, OK here goes:-
-
- I worked in retail industry for 5 years and also
- have business degree

Then why don't you know it's better to release ahead of your competitors? Intel and AMD are playing this game every single day. They always rush their products to get them out whether they're ready or not. Why would Ubi want to release an aging product to compete with a product using newer technology?

You're not a very good businessjerk are you?

XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 11:39 AM

Hmm...I think if ubi plays this strategically then they really could pull of more customers from COD... the thing is, if UBI released it early, COD & others would snatch all of AS's sales - people are saving up for COD or other games. Pushing the game back is actually probably a good idea in an economical standpoint. Coz the thing is, if you got TWO games that you desire and you only choose one you won't really get the other one (psychology).

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XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 07:39 PM

It's a rainbow game, i will wait however long it takes to play a new one. All other games are just fodder till AS comes out. will play and beat COD, then in the garbage it goes. This series is where its at.

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XyZspineZyX

11-06-2003, 08:09 PM

Plain and simple, Ubi doesn't want to release an expansion of a year-old game at the same time 2 or 3 full-size BRAND NEW games come out from competitors. The new games would sell first, and AS would just be collecting dust and dropping price because demand is low. Ubi is releasing AS later because by then, everyone should be into and maybe bored of COD and halo and all them, and would be looking for something else. You think they are just sitting on their hands about this? I'm sure they are testing the he|| out of the game to make sure there aren't any bugs, making the reviews as good as possible and having all the clancy fans come running for this gem of a game. blah blah blah, his theory was right in one sense, but wrong overall.
P.S. I'm a 4.0 average BA and ACCT major at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, a highly accredited business college, currently president of UAF's Associated Students of Business, and treasurer of the Great Alaska Accounting People. Dont make fun of the second name, it is supposed to coincide with the acronym for "generally approved accounting principles", GAAP.

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XyZspineZyX

11-07-2003, 06:07 PM

AMGSL55 wrote:
- I'm sure they are testing
- the he|| out of the game to make sure there aren't
- any bugs, making the reviews as good as possible and
- having all the clancy fans come running for this gem
- of a game. blah blah blah, his theory was right in
- one sense,

Are you sure about this part? I'm sure they'll make some effort to make it bug free, but, they've got other games to work on, full games, which stand to bring in more money. Will they use their customers to do their bug testing? Suddenly releasing news of a 4 month delay would make some people believe that Ubi's revamping the entire game to bring us the quality product we expect. I guess we'll find out when the game's released.

XyZspineZyX

11-07-2003, 07:04 PM

I'll buy Athena Sword AND Joint Operations AND Halo AND UT2K4. You know why? WWII ended 58 years ago. I'm not interested in CoD at all. Battlefield 1942, eh. MOH series. WFE. I like many of us, have the attention span of a gnat, and like to have many diffrent games to play. Ilove RvS and play online for 8 hours at a time, but I need a change, so I go to something else. The competition is for repeat business, not just one time shot sells. Thats why expansion packs exist in the first place.

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11-09-2003, 03:48 AM

QUOTE from DAYGLOW "lol, you don't need a business degree to see the flaws in your theory. I'd say a 12 year old can understand what we said."

LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

point exactly!!!! 12 year old thats why i dont bother, in fact reply as much as you want dayglow you lil child. I cannot be arsed with noobs and ammatures about my topic only the intelligent interest me but you dont have the maturity of inteligence, you must of been one of these lifestyle waster college students with nothing better to do. As for you witness you must of got your so called qualifications of back of a cereal box for 12 tokens lmfao. You have all just proved how brainy and skillful you lot are by answering my original post lmfao NOOBS

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