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jasontravis
02-12-2004, 02:01 AM
I've been enjoying Second Life a whole lot. It's the perfect antidote as you can do everything that uru wouldn't let you. People have created whole cities there.

check it out if you're jonesing for MMOG

A Tale in the Desert looks cool too.

jasontravis
02-12-2004, 02:01 AM
I've been enjoying Second Life a whole lot. It's the perfect antidote as you can do everything that uru wouldn't let you. People have created whole cities there.

check it out if you're jonesing for MMOG

A Tale in the Desert looks cool too.

Namara
02-12-2004, 06:26 AM
Wow! I took a look at their web page and read a few reviews. This games looks like the dream of what URU Live should/could be. It's cross platform too! I haven't tried it yet, but I wondering if anyone here has and if so how they think it compares to URU.

-Namara

johbou
02-12-2004, 06:38 AM
I agree, Second Life looks very inviting!
I think I am going to try it out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

johnfchandler
02-12-2004, 07:49 AM
A little too Sims for my taste. Cutesy. Uru was for explorers, Second Life is for people who frequent the Gap once too often. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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mszv
02-12-2004, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the post, jasontravis. Second Life looks very interesting.

Ah - decisions, decisions!

Regards, mszv play as amarez

Put that down, you are not in a game, this is my life!

Digitz1
02-12-2004, 09:43 AM
While you're checking out Second Life, also check out There.

Not as much programming involved, and a little bit different.

You can find me in There as Tansy. It's certainly helped to fill in the extra time. Oh, and if you're not into the Sims type of thing, then don't go There http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There (http://www.there.com)

Mystral721
02-12-2004, 12:27 PM
I watched a trailer for the game and it's logo looks disturbingly like a journey cloth hand. Yeesha's gonna kick some booty if she sees that! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

"Today is the tomorow you worried about yesterday. Was it worth it?"

SilentObserver
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
For those running down Sims (you know who you are) one of the most important (to me) people I met in Live convinced me to buy and install The Sims Online, and I'm finding it a lot of fun. Unfortunately, neither of us can run Second Life -- it requires a newer version of Windows and better Video than we have, despite the fact that the Uru: Live client ran fine on our systems (better than fine, I had less trouble than some people with considerably faster processors and better video cards).

There are still a lot of very usable machines that don't have XP and a perfectly up to date video card -- and none of them can run Second Life. Believe me, if I could, I'd be in there like a shot. As it is, you can catch me greening in Alphaville, same avatar name as on Katran.

On Katran as Image Maker
KI # 00133293

I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
-- E. J. Fudd, 1954

SilentObserver
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mystral721:
I watched a trailer for the game and it's logo looks disturbingly like a journey cloth hand. Yeesha's gonna kick some booty if she sees that! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I saw that wondered if that was where Zandi got to when he left the Airstream... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

On Katran as Image Maker
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I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
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johnfchandler
02-12-2004, 03:53 PM
SO,

Sorry if I offended. Now you go on making those Gnomes. I was a beta tester and charter member of the Sims Online. It is very repetitious in nature. I have blocked most of it out, but I do remember trying to do a Sims version of Jonestown, complete with green Kool-Aid. Maxis didn't find it too amusing though.

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_ Paula _
02-12-2004, 04:04 PM
I tried the free trial of Second Life today. Maybe I'm just used to Uru's controls and graphics, but to me it seemed flat and hard to manuever. Not to mention that avatar customization seemed very difficult too. I definitely won't be subscribing.

Paula (Pa'lua in Cavern)

[This message was edited by Pa'lua on Thu February 12 2004 at 03:41 PM.]

pixilpink
02-12-2004, 04:56 PM
i know the sims aren't for everyone, but its somewhere i can go and not have to kill the monster..level up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i did want to play second life and there..knew about them before i knew about uru live. but that whole video card thing holds me back...oh well

another interesting one was a tale in the desert, a massively multiplayer online game set in ancient egypt where players strive to build the perfect society.

no killing beasties there either http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

usajoe
02-12-2004, 05:07 PM
I have a day or two of the free trial of Second Life left. So far I like it but it seems that to make the most of this game you really have to devote a lot of time to it, i.e. earning $, programming, etc. It would probably be somewhat easier if I already knew folks playing it. We'll see in a couple of days.

P.S. Pa'lua did you get past orientation?

Garvin

jasontravis
02-12-2004, 10:16 PM
Second Life isn't so much a game as it is a cyberspace operating system. You can create interesting stuff there to do, and people have. My first day I was kidnapped by two women; one with wings and the other with two black "censored" blocks as clothing. We flew over a site where someone created a beach...and a casino with games that work. And a grotto. I payed an online dollar to take a ride through a spookhouse dark ride someone had built that gave me a souvenir t-shirt at the end. The rollercoaster was free because it seemed a prototype to see if it could be done. Someone randomly tossed me a hoverbike at one point and said, "take this, I've got extra." I toured an online museum of erotica where you can purchase the art to decorate the walls of the houses you can build (people have created ones that explode out of a box like a life-raft)

Srikandi
02-13-2004, 04:22 AM
hmmm... might have to take a look... though if it's as "adult" as you make it sound, I hope there's something there for the ladies! Graphics a bit disappointing based on the site -- low-poly, low-res, and overly saturated (spoiled by Uru now), but I'm willing to look closer.

I've read about "a tale in the desert", and it sounded like altogether too much brickmaking for my taste, but perhaps I misjudged it.

[This message was edited by Srikandi on Fri February 13 2004 at 03:36 AM.]

_ Paula _
02-13-2004, 04:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by usajoe:
I have a day or two of the free trial of Second Life left. So far I like it but it seems that to make the most of this game you really have to devote a lot of time to it, i.e. earning $, programming, etc. It would probably be somewhat easier if I already knew folks playing it. We'll see in a couple of days.

P.S. Pa'lua did you get past orientation?

Garvin<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I did. I clicked on one of the maps at the end of orientation and ended up in an area that had a shooting gallery, displayed some vehicles and, at the end of the boardwalk, had signs for shopping and other activities. I just didn't like moving using my keyboard and prefer using the mouse. If it's possible, I wasn't able to find the feature that let me.

I now see why those who were used to those types of controls felt that Uru's controls were difficult. I think it's just a matter of what you're already use to. I also didn't like how everything you pointed at with the mouse came up with a description of it.

I agree with you on the point that it appears to be something you'd really need to devote a lot of time too....and right now that's something I don't have in abundance.

Paula (Pa'lua in Cavern)

Raewin
02-13-2004, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by johnfchandler:
Sorry if I offended. Now you go on making those Gnomes. I was a beta tester and charter member of the Sims Online. It is very repetitious in nature. I have blocked most of it out, but I do remember trying to do a Sims version of Jonestown, complete with green Kool-Aid. Maxis didn't find it too amusing though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet. Now that sounds like fun!

Did you see The Daily Show last night? I knew there would have been an S & M Sims Online but it had been yanked, according to that Daily Show segment. I have the single player version. Never bothered with online. I don't think I could screw with real people's heads the way I did with my single player Sims and maintain a healthy conscience. It wasn't much fun unless I could fry, electrocute, drown, or starve my Sims to death, and then scare the next ones that move into the house with all the ghosts. Yeah, I had the nude patch, the cheat codes, and all the old skins and gack from now-defunct web sites (the cool stuff, like Mulder and Scully skins). The group orgies with a bunch of jealous Sims slapping each other was fun for awhile but it soon got old.

Uru was much better. And not as sadistic. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I heard Sims Online didn't do very well. (I hated the gnomes, by the way. Never used them.)

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StrScape3000
02-13-2004, 08:54 PM
I have tried Half Life, A Tale in the Desert, and There. I thought they were awful.

A Tale in the Desert is fun at first but after awhile. It's the same thing over and over.

Just my opinion though...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

StrScape3000

DonnaLP
02-13-2004, 09:34 PM
I talked about this subject on another thread and I don't think you gave it much of a chance, Pa'lua as you were barely past the opening area. I have met lots of fine friendly people there which was a positive experience for me. I was a latecomer to URU Live and found the 'hood deserted most of the time as everyone was in the city looking for markers. I like that Second Life is not all about a game. Don't get me wrong, URU is the greatest and I am not so sure I have the smarts to do the scripting in Second Life, barely have the avatar up and running.I think it is great to be able to interact with people in avatar form and I have been seeing that a lot of URU "refugees" think the same, it got the attention of the GM's there to say the least. Anyway I am Donna Flora there so will welcome any of you should you decide to give it a whirl http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

kaitkris
02-14-2004, 08:42 AM
I went to the "Second Life" site and was going to try it, but I have a Mac and it's only compatible with the latest OS for Mac, called "Panther" and I don't have that yet...so maybe I'll see if the others are Mac compatible?

Passing the time, waiting for the Mac version of URU to come out... ~twiddles thumbs~ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

usajoe
02-14-2004, 09:09 AM
Well, after trying it for a week I have decided to continue on with Second Life. I'm looking for land already.

Garvin

Mystral721
02-14-2004, 10:06 AM
I tried Second Life last night, but gave up when my video card couldn't keep up with it. I've got an All-In-Wonder 8500DV, but the graphics accelerator kept crashing, even at a low setting. I think it may just be a bad card. Maybe next time I'll get a GeForce...at least I'd finally be able to play realMyst (I think).

"Today is the tomorow you worried about yesterday. Was it worth it?"

-Jewel-
02-14-2004, 10:23 AM
I am not out to offend anyone, because to each his own.

But from what I have seen, Second Life is more for those who enjoy roleplaying and do not have a specific goal in mind (like solving a puzzle in order to be able to proceed).

Even with the multiplayer aspect of URU Live (RIP), the MAIN goal would have been on the puzzle solving aspect and meeting challenges, rather than living it up in some fantasy.

But that is just my opinion, based on what I saw on their website. I realize that I may be biased, others may look for other things in a game than me (that is why there are so many games to begin with).

http://members.chello.nl/~s.nent/images/uru.gif

Mystral721
02-14-2004, 10:52 AM
True, Second Life wouldn't be for everyone. I won't know if it's for me till I can keep it from crashing!

I like many different games depending on the mood I happen to be in - everything from "kill, Kill, KILL!" to mindless click-the-block games on Yahoo to RPG to story/puzzle, like Myst.

There's a friend of mine who acted enthused about the Myst series at first. I was so excited - someone new to share these worlds with! After I showed her some of URU, though, she told me she wasn't interested in playing them anymore - she just likes role-playing games and didn't want a world where she'd be all alone.

I was very surprised and disappointed - she hadn't really given them a chance. Mostly I'm sorry that she's going to miss all those beautiful worlds. I'm usually pretty good at empathizing with someone, but the idea of being so limited...it's like eating only one kind of food, day in and day out! Of course, there are people who like that sort of a thing, too.

Personally, I think a little variety IS the spice of life. Well, that and wasabi! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

"Today is the tomorow you worried about yesterday. Was it worth it?"

hogarth...
02-14-2004, 11:14 AM
I've been demo'ing 2nd Life. So far it's diverting enough, but it's certainly no substitute for Uru.

Too...oh, I don't know...FLUFFY.

In Atrus as hogarth
KI # 04660700

DonnaLP
02-14-2004, 12:35 PM
I am fascinated by Second Life and by how others see it too. It is like for every person in the universe there is also a seperate universe. LOL I have had only positive experiences there and know people that have had only negative experiences. There is a growing URU community there and that has been very good!!!!I can't get enough URU anyway, I come to this forum, URU Obsession, The D'ni Yahoo Group and Second Life, keeps me busy feeding my URU habit, bring on those expansion packs!

Temis
02-14-2004, 06:18 PM
I am interested in all this talk about Second Life. It will NEVER take the place of Uru, but it sounds like many feel it would be someplace to hang out together for awhile. I am going to begin a topic in the Off Topic forum here to see which Uruites are playing Second Life, so we can get together if we want. If you are one of this category, please go to that topic and let us all know ...

Temis
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(I know ... I should change this sig, but I just can't yet ...)

johnfchandler
02-14-2004, 06:34 PM
Some review said it should be called 'Get A Life'....heh. I am going to try it out and give a fair assesment of it. Not that my opinion matters but it should be fun to read.

JFC

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Srikandi
02-15-2004, 01:00 AM
Well, I had a run around there today. It's... odd. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif The graphics are nothing short of painful after Uru, but that's clearly not the point. The point is to make stuff and share it and show how clever you are. Whether it's art, 3D modelling, animation, scripting. I saw a lot of genuinely bizarre stuff that people had made.

Feels a bit crowded... it's like a giant brand-new housing development, mostly still under construction, except that instead of all looking alike every house is as different as you could imagine.

There's a competitive aspect to it which I'm not crazy about... getting people to rate you, exchanging cards, making money by creating and selling goods and services... I saw one very nice gallery of stained glass windows you could buy and put in your house, for instance.

DEFINITELY crawling with Uruites. I ran into two forum members in the starting area, DaXian and Homey, and shortly after ran into Lasher from my old Hood... avatar still recognizable!

I think I'll hang around it some more. Look me up if you get there, everybody: I'm Srikandi Khan. And I don't look exactly like I did in Uru... still looking for an ex-Uru person selling a Yeesha shirt!

P.S. Here's something I just happened to pass by that should make all Uru types feel at home:

http://members.cox.net/srikandi/Uru/2L.jpg

I picked up the lei at a beach party I was invited to... it was in a "mature" area, and it readily became apparent that I was, um, overdressed, so I left, but I kept the lei anyway. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sri's Relto (http://members.cox.net/srikandi/Uru/)

[This message was edited by Srikandi on Sun February 15 2004 at 12:56 AM.]

Lasher2014
02-15-2004, 01:39 AM
Sri it was good to see you there! You can actually make your own clothes there with Photoshop. Obviously I havent done that yet lol

Lasher

siemerh
02-15-2004, 06:50 AM
There are references here to SECOND LIFE, TALE IN THE DESERT and THERE. Where do I find these? I can't find any info in reviews or sales. Where can I go? (carefull there) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Where is it written?

usajoe
02-15-2004, 07:33 AM
Second Life (http://secondlife.com/)

Garvin

Zharlen
02-15-2004, 02:46 PM
Whoa, that hand symbol for Second Life IS almost exactly like the journey cloth hand.

Weird to see it in that context.

It would seem that if Second Life and A Tale in Desert can be somewhat functional, then there is some hope for a future Uru Life that can also be.

Its not over, its just postponed. That's what I think and I'm sticking to it.

johnfchandler
02-15-2004, 03:32 PM
People are just fugly in Second Life as compared to Uru. I tried it. It's simply garish, the realism is gone entirely. Uru wasn't a cartoon, this is.

JFC

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Nomars
02-15-2004, 04:21 PM
I started Second Life today. Well actually didn't really start. Nothing but crashes or freezes. I have nice PC (Radeon 9700 Pro, 1 gb of memory, fast Athlon, etc.) so that shouldn't be the problem. Maybe freshening up my XP installation will help out.

My first impression of SL tells me it isn't for me. To much toying around and as said before no goals. To much controls too. A totally agree with you Paula. Takes me ages to make a nice avvie and I don't have those because I crash all the time. And yes it's flat and not very realistic. It reminds me of the VRML worlds we had in Cybercity (Blaxxun) five years ago. Liked those then, but not today.

I will go on trying (if I can stay in the game) during my free few days. My expectation is that I won't subscribe.

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Leuven12
02-15-2004, 04:38 PM
Hi everyone,

Whilst I'm saddened that Uru:Live is dead, I am also not entirely suprised.

The content was absolutely absorbing and the finest I've ever seen from this type of graphical adventure game, however, the onlive version was frankly unplayable.

Had the server issues been resolved then I'm absolutely convinced that this game would have been a commecial success but as it was, The Prologue was jerky and frustrating and it doesn't come as any suprise that people were put off by it.

The cynic in me also tells me that the free add-on To D'ni is simply be what we saw of The Prologue so I'm expecting a whole lot of 'game-play' involving running about collecting electronic rubber stamps to a timer.

Just my few pennies worth and I hope very sincerely that a little bit of good adventure game-play comes out of this soon.

Cheers,

Jim.

Amyteria
02-20-2004, 08:41 AM
I've been having URU withdrawl...so I decided to try 2nd life and I must say it is strange...red lawns and places where you can't stand up. Or if you try to run you fall over.

Things happen at the most unexpected times, don't they?

Anyway, the nick is Artemisia Twilight or Art for short and don't forget /wingson!

See you there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Am'teria

Elspet
02-20-2004, 09:27 AM
Alas, I can't play Second Life; wrong operating system. It does look interesting, though.

I'm looking into There, another online community (without built in puzzles or mysteries, alas, but without needing to go out and kill things to advance).

I actually prefer the cartoony kind of graphics to graphics that are trying to be realistic and not making the grade. I went and read up on some games like Everquest, which is how I decided that they just weren't going to help the Uru withdrawl symptoms; but lots of reviews talked about the "stunning realism" and "beautiful graphics" and then I look at the screenshots...

Uru has definitely spoiled me for "realistic graphics" in online games. If I continue to "play" online I think I'll be more comfortable with the 3D cartoony, openly unrealistic graphics than with the more realistic attempts that just beg to be compared to Uru.

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Pepsi1953
02-20-2004, 07:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by siemerh:
There are references here to SECOND LIFE, TALE IN THE DESERT and THERE. Where do I find these? I can't find any info in reviews or sales. Where can I go? (carefull there) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Where is it written?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I beta'd There and have been a member since then. Second Life just does not sound like the place for me but I can recommend There as a good place to hang around in.

Mind you they just did an upgrade this past Wednesday and it has the usual buggy time right now while the system gets broken in. But I still think it's one of the best things out there. (No pun intended.)

Here's the place to go to start a free trial period There link (http://www.there.com/). My name is Pepsi in There so if any of you do go in look me up. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

~Pepsi~

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Naquiel
02-20-2004, 07:53 PM
Me, i have been playing SWG (Star Wars Galaxies) instead. I wanted some action, even though i have been playing SWG way befor uru came out. I have a really cool Bounty Hunter that kicks. I have a pet rock beetle, and it does tricks. SWG is fun if you want to live in the SW universe.

They even have character classes that dont require you to kill things to play the game.

Its not like uru, but its a cool game to try.

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Pepsi1953
02-21-2004, 11:45 PM
Update: There are two functioning groups of Urufugees over at There.com at this moment.

I have met a number of them earlier tonite who are from the Uru_Meeting_Place group (I think that's right) and the other group is An_Uru_from_the_Dni_city. Just do a search for them once your in There and you'll find them listed in the groups. I have also run into several others from Uru too. It's good to be able to see fellow Uruvians again. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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jesster777
02-28-2004, 03:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elspet:
Alas, I can't play Second Life; wrong operating system. It does look interesting, though.

I'm looking into There, another online community (without built in puzzles or mysteries, alas, but without needing to go out and kill things to advance).

I actually prefer the cartoony kind of graphics to graphics that are trying to be realistic and not making the grade. I went and read up on some games like Everquest, which is how I decided that they just weren't going to help the Uru withdrawl symptoms; but lots of reviews talked about the "stunning realism" and "beautiful graphics" and then I look at the screenshots...

Uru has definitely spoiled me for "realistic graphics" in online games. If I continue to "play" online I think I'll be more comfortable with the 3D cartoony, openly unrealistic graphics than with the more realistic attempts that just beg to be compared to Uru.

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What color is your umbrella?
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Second LIfe works on win98, ask D'axian, shes been there for over 2 weeks on win98. I think the minimum requirements statement was made in asumption that few people have win98 left. Also they just had a mac version come out as well.

If any one has interest in finding out what SL is all about, or just want to me a few URU exiles, come fine me (homey khan) or D'axian(Daxian Fauna). We are there often.

julesX
02-28-2004, 09:07 PM
This might possibly be my first actual post, but I can't remember as it's been so long. As an URU Live refugee that sorely misses it and a person who's been keeping in touch with my hood members by e-mail...I seriously thought about Second Life. I went there...downloaded every stinkin' driver they offered, yet alas...my very expensive XP fancy dancy new laptop with a whole gig. of memory and other great features, can't run it. Was a little irritated at that so I uninstalled all of it and have been grumpily waiting for something more suitable.

Oh, well...playing Myst, Riven, Exile in the meantime http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif and staying in touch with JulesX hood members other ways. By the way...Garavek..I did get your message http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

JulesX

Di-ane
03-03-2004, 01:30 PM
I tried There...and so far it has been CRAP.
If you don't have a forcefield on, there are some who enjoy knocking people over with cars, and there's nothing else to do about it except exit the game. Also, a lot of 'adult' level flirting going on. Which is not that horrible in theory, but in practice is it disconcerting to be doing a puzzle, and then have someone say lewd comments. Lots of people dressed scantily and with suggestive names.
That will attract a certain population, but i wanted a game that I could play with my children. Having them go through a 'learning experience' is ok for puzzles, but not for learning certain topics with rude language.
So There might be ok for someone who is single and into on line crassness, but not for anyone else.
FYI-There only costs $5/month, but you need to spend at least $7/month more to buy a few things, and i have heard of some people actually spending up to $90/month to buy stuff.

IYeesha
03-03-2004, 07:41 PM
May we reunite in MYST 5... I can't wait...

PS: Jules, long to=ime no see.

Pepsi1953
03-03-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Di-ane:
I tried There...and so far it has been CRAP.
If you don't have a forcefield on, there are some who enjoy knocking people over with cars, and there's nothing else to do about it except exit the game. Also, a lot of 'adult' level flirting going on. Which is not that horrible in theory, but in practice is it disconcerting to be doing a puzzle, and then have someone say lewd comments. Lots of people dressed scantily and with suggestive names.
That will attract a certain population, but i wanted a game that I could play with my children. Having them go through a 'learning experience' is ok for puzzles, but not for learning certain topics with rude language.
So There might be ok for someone who is single and into on line crassness, but not for anyone else.
FYI-There only costs $5/month, but you need to spend at least $7/month more to buy a few things, and i have heard of some people actually spending up to $90/month to buy stuff.

I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience in There Di-ane. I have been in There from the beginning (beta) and it has undergone some changes with going Gold and allowing the general public in. I still believe the good people far outweigh the jerks that turn up though. And truth told, the jerks show up anywhere online that is open to the public.

It is a sorry state that we have to use our forcefield but that forcefield was asked for by betas because of the problem of getting knocked to kingdom come. Not always on purpose some of it is done completely unaware and accidentally. If someone's PC is rendering slowly and they don't see you they can hardly avoid hitting you. And believe me that does happen.

The clothes, yes I am shocked occasionally by what someone is wearing, but a lot of it is only a fashion statement just as any you would see out in public. The suggestive names I think falls into the same category for the most part. Although there are some who have pushed it a bit too far.

We didn't have many problems with lewd comments for a long time. I know there are some in there now who are making them. The only thing I can say about that is to turn them in. Click on the Get Help button down on the bar and talk to a helper and give them the name and what was said. If you can't repeat it yourself you should have a copy of it in your history that can be sent to There. If the person bothers you via IM put them on your ignore list.

I haven't been going in as much since just before the recent upgrade and I have found out about some new items that I just don't think or believe fit in with what There had said they wanted their image to be like. There is supposed to be family oriented and if we want it to remain so we will have to let There know when things are being said and done that we take issue with.

It is possible to get along without the extras that There has you buy. Yes the explorer pack does help if you do the quests and a hoverpack certainly comes in handy too. But you can usually find a person at the Quests that is more than willing to lend you a hoverpack or help you find a location that you might not know because you don't have the map or a compass. I have been known to augment the money I've made in There by using my credit card so that I could buy some more goodies. I mean I just had to have the hoverboard that looks like a butterfly, didn't I? ;-)

And finally, no, I am not a stockholder in There nor am I employed by them. I just feel that it is a good place for the most part. And I would still recommend it to all. But as in any community we must take responsibility in turning in anything that we believe is a wrongful action or comment to make sure that There remains the decent community that we know it can be.

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Ignatia
03-04-2004, 07:56 AM
I know what you mean about 'There' Di-Ane - I had a pretty unpleasant introduction to the community in the first few minutes thanks to some weirdo harassing me. I thought I had arrived at some strange 'adult entertainment' site! It really put me off, but I went back again today to give it another go and try and find a few uru people. as I was wandering around somewhat aimlessly, I spotted a group of people jumping up and down in this beautiful fountain, but I didn't want to interrupt their fun. One of them approached me and introduced herself and they all turned out to be uru-refugees! What a sweet moment! they were great, so friendly and welcoming and asked me back to their part of the 'There' world where we chatted, played with giant beach balls, and rode flying motorbikes in the shape of horses.. Surreal to say the least! but it was really good fun and I agree with Pepsi that its worth giving it more of a go - you just have to find the kind of people you like to hang out with.

-Jewel-
03-04-2004, 11:01 AM
I tried Second Life, couldn't resist it. It was every bit of what I thought it to be (see page 2 of this thread). I was particularly unimpressed with the graphics.

Besides, there was nothing to do really; it was basically a lot of chat and hanging out. Though everyone I met was very friendly and pleasant and I received a warm welcome of one of their "greeters".

I can imagine why some people like it, but it is certainly NOT to be compared with URU in ANY way.... so I cancelled the trial subscribsion and will not try SL again.

mszv
03-04-2004, 12:07 PM
Hi,
As far as I can tell, from my outside observation of both There and Second Life, both games work best if you are very involved in making something. This seems to apply in particular to Second Life. They look like places where working to create the world is very important. It's not a story driven game.

In theory, I like this a lot - I get to make whatever I want, build what I want, acquire what I want (those cool hovercraft things - wow!) and be part of whatever community I want. In practice, it seems like so much work - good, fun interesting work, but work. So, I think I'll hold off for a bit. I was quite casual in my Uru community experiences (never even settled on a neighborhood) so the intensity of getting going in both Second Life and There might not work for me.

I am very interested in reading about other people's experiences. Maybe I'll change my mind!

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D aniel
03-04-2004, 12:43 PM
Well after visiting Secondlife and finding the group prefixed with D'ni in their names, I'm NOT impressed.

/gets on soapbox

Firstly, 2ndlife is NOT my kind of game. Its clumsy, crude, and primative. Yes it is intriguing to watch others enjoy themselves, but for me - not my cup of tea.

Secondly, the group of folks that I located in 2ndlife that are attempting to reaffirm the collectiveness of community by assuming D'ni prefixes definitely are not 'open' nor are they exuding warmth and friendliness in the game. They have created a political structure that rivals present day polictics in the US. Even their 'out-of-2ndlife' message board on Yahoo states it is a closed group. I'm sorry thats not very D'ni like to me.

I didn't select a faction in Uru when it was LIVE and I certainly am not going to select a refugee zone where order, rank, and politics is the word of the day.

That said - I'm content with CYANWORLDS games exclusively. There is no other game on par with Uru (or the Myst series).

/steps down from soapbox

But my best regards to all refugees, one day we all will be reuninted in D'ni!

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-Jewel-
03-04-2004, 01:26 PM
* Applauds! Gives Standing Ovation! Roars! Whistles! *

Hahaha, no really, I think I agree with you Marlboro, it's just that you made it sound like a sermon.

Temis
03-04-2004, 01:41 PM
Marlboro, what was your name in Second Life?

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D aniel
03-04-2004, 05:32 PM
Temis

I was Daniel in 2ndLife.

Go to the D'ni Directory to preserve your signature info. (plus there are some bennies to being added to the directory

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Zard0z
03-04-2004, 07:26 PM
Should be called Get a Life... haha, ok just kidding, but I'm just an explorer at heart. The environments aren't too caringly constructed.

Randomos
03-04-2004, 07:43 PM
Random on There (I was a real early beta)- but I haven't been on in a while.

BUT if I am, by all means say hi...

Ignatia
03-04-2004, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE]originally posted by the RealMalboro

I didn't select a faction in Uru when it was LIVE and I certainly am not going to select a refugee zone where order, rank, and politics is the word of the day.

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It's an interesting point you raise Malboro, did you find that Uru live had the potential to be divisive and create exclusive groups/clubs etc? I know when I first heard of how Uru live was structured into neighbourhoods and so on I was a bit apprehensive about it. The whole idea of 'hoods and guilds and clubs seemed a bit gang like to me. It struck me as being similar to how school used to be! but perhaps that is the way most societies structure themselves eventually. I felt uncomfortable with the notion of belonging to a particular neighbourhood, and of being invited to belong to neighbourhoods etc. As it turned out, I wasn't in Live long enough to really find out what it was like.

D aniel
03-04-2004, 08:45 PM
Yes Uru LIVE had the potential to allow certain persons create elitist groups or clubs of interest. Some good, some bad, all a matter of personal taste.

Hoods (neighborhoods) on the other hand were non-structured, as was intended. A select minority may have wnated to invoke sometype of heirachy in their own hood, but I was not aware of any. Other hoods, may have hand selected a few members, and yet for the most part most hoods were open.

I was invited to join a few hoods, but since you could only belong to ONE - I declined. I was a member of my own hood. Those I felt a connectin with went into my buddy list.

I enjoy the IC aspect of many refugees have taken in respect to 'continuing the story', but honestly, what I saw in 2ndlife was not a continuation. I'll be truthful and state I do not know what the folks in 2ndlife objective is, nor do I care - I'm not there. Hopefully they can establish a sense of pride that will allow others to join in a non-comittal non-hierachial manner so that the facsimilies they are creating to duplicate D'ni the best they can will not only exude the awe and wonder of the city but also call to those who want to explore and discover what was once the Great City of the D'ni without discrimination.

Its a shame, really, you weren't there long enough to get the real feel for the city and its populous. For me, I doubt that THAT feeling will return again unless URU goes live in the future.

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Ignatia
03-04-2004, 09:54 PM
perhaps Uru refugees should set themselves up on Shadowbane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I think the purpose of Shadowbane is to build cities and empires - perhaps Uruvians could set up a D'ni empire - howzzat for an idea?! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

I think it may be the only way Uru live will ever be resurrected...

_Leela_
03-04-2004, 10:12 PM
I just tried There and let me start out with 'I was not impressed'. Now, having said that, I did like the fact that you could go anywhere you wanted. I spent most of my time seeing if I could climb the mountains. And when I did, there was people there. Unfortunately, I don't think that There is for me. I'm spoiled by the URU graphics. And there's no background noise, music or otherwise. I joined one of the URU groups, but was unable to find anyone. Oh well. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I guess, back to waiting for the XP. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Whitewalker
03-05-2004, 01:35 AM
There are a number of urufugees setting up house in The Saga of Ryzom (http://www.ryzom.com/). A number of us including myself have set up & joined these guilds. You will find information at World of Ryzom (http://www.world-of-ryzom.com/index.php) in the forums under Ryzom Guilds. The hardcore URU-Live Guild is called Out of Cavern. Its ideologies you can read about there and it should comfort those needing the Live experience. The other one is The New Empire, which is more Ryzom in philosophy but does consist of two ex-Uru fans, myself included going by the in-game name of Adreu & Shizen_Ki, who is the founder.

Ryzom is still in Beta but will be available in April when it goes live. So you have the opportunity to check it out, join the forums & guilds, and see if it is to your fancy. It looks promising.

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JaredWhite
03-05-2004, 02:22 AM
I just found out about this thread -- interesting to see what various people's reactions are to these alternative games to Live. It seems we have the Second Life vs. There thing going on as well as the Uru Live vs. Everyone Else thing.

Well, let me tell you -- I first tried out Second Life over a week ago, and fell it love with it pretty quickly. Yes, it's not Uru Live, but that's because Live was actually a pretty lousy application compared to Second Life! Now don't get me wrong -- for the genre that Uru is in, it beats the living daylights out of Second Life, There, or anything else in terms of graphics, sound, story, etc. However, Second Life and There aren't in the same genre as Uru/Live, so therefore the comparison isn't fair. What IS fair is the comparison of the programming, and that's why I say Second Life is far superior to Live. The chat/IM interface is WAY better, the interaction with things in the environment is WAY better, the speed of access to different places is phenomenal (though SL still has lag in spots, but it's not half as bad as Ae'gura used to be normally), and the world-building aspects of SL are truly astounding. The developers of SL (Linden Lab) communicate directly with their customers/fans ALL THE TIME and have some great philosophies regarding the nature of virtual world design. One more added bonus: SL runs on OS X! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

On another note, I briefly tried There out a few days ago for comparison and rather hated it. Bad interface, terrible graphics, annoying avatars, and a dumb/nonexistent philosophy behind it. Sorry, but that's my 2c.

Anyway, I guess the point of all this is, strictly in terms of software design and flexibility, I think Second Life is the best MMOG I've ever seen -- much better than Live. And it's not really fair to compare the artistry of Uru to SL because just about everything in SL was created by regular people! Uru was created by a game company. It's a completely different thing!

BTW, if you do try out SL, look me up -- I'm under the name Jared Psaltery (don't ask). I'm part of the D'ni group there, and I haven't encountered anyone but nice, friendly folk. To the person who complained about the D'ni group people being closed and unfriendly -- sorry, but you're wrong. Maybe you met one weirdo -- but I certainly haven't met anyone like that.

Shorah,

Jared

Member of The Meeting Place Neighborhood
Member of the D'ni Group in Second Life (under the name Jared Psaltery)

Dotthorpe
03-05-2004, 05:49 AM
My son told me I'd like Star Wars Galaxies so perhaps I'll try it.
I tried 2nd Life but I, too, found the graphics difficult although I have a very modern computer. I'm currently playing Morrowind - saw it recommended by someone, somewhere on these forums.
It has killing in it which I'm trying to avoid by becoming a priest. It passes the time when I want to relax but it's not as good as the Myst series. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Dotthorpe
03-05-2004, 05:52 AM
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Oops! I think I've just repiled to the thread on page 2.
Sorry.

JaredWhite
03-05-2004, 10:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dotthorpe:
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Oops! I think I've just repiled to the thread on page 2.
Sorry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your post still seems relevant to me. Don't worry about it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jared

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mszv
03-05-2004, 11:10 AM
One question about SecondLife. Can you enjoy it if you don't play a lot?

I really want to make things, I do, but realistically, I probably won't end up doing that as much as I would like. So, I'd probably be more of a tourist. Is is still fun?

I'll look of some of the D'ni folks if I decide to get on - thanks. It would be great to meet nice people in Second Life.

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Soosi
03-05-2004, 10:01 PM
I have tried There, Second Life and Ryzom. They all have their good points and bad - the one thing they have in common is they don't hold a candle to Uru.

I chose There not because it was the better game but because that is where the largest number of Uru people are. I want to be with my friends - the game is secondary.

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JaredWhite
03-05-2004, 11:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mszv:
One question about SecondLife. Can you enjoy it if you don't play a lot?
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Good question. I think it's about the same as the old "Can you enjoy Uru Live if you don't check all the forums, hang out with your buddies, and attend all the in-world events?" question -- the answer to which is: Yes! Though perhaps not quite as much as if you're a fanatic! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Seriously though, I don't think SL requires much of a time commitment. You can spend as little or as much time there as you like -- you won't "miss" anything really (there aren't any puzzles or "level up" doodads).

Jared

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subumbra
03-06-2004, 09:21 AM
I've been following this thread from the beginning and I have to say that your comments Jared are the first that have made me want to give SL a try. So I think I will. Thanks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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felodese
03-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Tried SL but my machine kept crashing in the introduction area. It's not the game it's probably my system. I've been working on another system so maybe I will try it when my new machine is ready.

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tchotchke2
03-12-2004, 04:53 PM
Ignatia, I am waiting for an answer to my e-mail to There trying to find out the cost after the initial 2 weeks free. Is it $5.00 a month? (I thought I saw that posted.) If I do join can I look for you there? How would I do that?

Ignatia
03-13-2004, 01:08 PM
hi tchotchke - you've probably received an email by now but from memory I think it is around $5 US a month to join - I'm on the trial thing and i think I've only got a few days left. I'm not sure if I will sign up - just a matter of how much time I have to devote to the game sadly. but if you're doing the trial now, you can look for other uru-ites by typing in a search word 'URU'. And most other uru-refugees are going by their uru name so type that in to see if they are online - I'm under Ignatia http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. will also look for you when I log in if you're using the same name. Hope to see you there! (no pun intended!) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

tchotchke2
03-15-2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks, Ignatia. I haven't gotten e-mail, but that's OK. I haven't tried There, yet, because we are still trying to run A Tale In the Desert
(unsuccessfully) and I was going to attempt one at a time. What I like about A Tale in the Desert is that they give you 24 hours free but you don't have to use them consecutively, so I can use them at anytime. With There's free week, I need to know that I've got a week to spend on it. But I will certainly look for you, "There".