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XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 08:18 AM
Personally i think there is alot of guns in this game as there is but I think that they should put in the colt 1911. i mean the gun has served threw 2 world wars. its a peice of histroy B)

XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 08:18 AM
Personally i think there is alot of guns in this game as there is but I think that they should put in the colt 1911. i mean the gun has served threw 2 world wars. its a peice of histroy B)

XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 05:27 PM
and while the are at it...OICW please! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 07:22 PM
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- and while the are at it...OICW please! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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well, in my opinion, the OICW wouldn't be all that great of addition because it is not the right type of game purpose. i mean, if you think about it, since when do anti-terrorist experts go into a building with grenade launchers on an m-16?! the nade launchers on an m-16 or the OICW isn't the type of nade that there is currently in RvS. It blows on contact, so you can't bounce them off the corner. it's just crazy! not to mention a semi-auto nade launch! that's overkill big time!! the OICW is an awesome gun in Ghost Recon, but it's just not a RvS gun./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif they can't just disable the nade launcher either, because it is a part of the gun! if you want a realistic game, you can't disable it. people will complain! that's my opinion on the matter :-P

XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 08:31 PM
blah blah blah OICW this, 1911 that, who cares? The OICW is a battlefield weapon, not tactical special forces. the 1911 has been replaced by the mk23, get over it. Get a clue people.

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XyZspineZyX
11-29-2003, 11:37 PM
I think they should add a S.L.T.N.M.S. or Shoulder Launched Tactical Nuclear Missle System, that would be a constructive idea too, or hows about combat tortoise, they could have claymores strapped to there backs and you just kick em really hard then set them off.

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 01:19 AM
lmao, anyways i'd like to see the new h&k xm8, which = teh win. i understand its still early in testing and the such, but i read on www.hk-usa.com (http://www.hk-usa.com) that its gonna start to replace m4 and m16 by late 2005, so it sounds like they're definately going to make this gun. i'd also like to see some more handguns such as glock, m1911, and more variants of the usp. also nice would be the oppertunity to add more than one attachment at one time, and possible make a tac light available. i know we have nightvision but sometimes that is hard to use even.

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 05:05 AM
Reign-RDG wrote:
- lmao, anyways i'd like to see the new h&k xm8, which
- = teh win. i understand its still early in testing
- and the such, but i read on www.hk-usa.com (http://www.hk-usa.com) that its
- gonna start to replace m4 and m16 by late 2005, so
- it sounds like they're definately going to make this
- gun. i'd also like to see some more handguns such as
- glock, m1911, and more variants of the usp. also
- nice would be the oppertunity to add more than one
- attachment at one time, and possible make a tac
- light available. i know we have nightvision but
- sometimes that is hard to use even.
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-

Get the g36k, and get over it, like i said. Plenty of guns in this game, don't ask for too much more, people are going to get annoyed at you...wait.....already there.

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Message Edited on 11/30/0304:05AM by Eur0.

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 05:32 AM
- Get the g36k, and get over it, like i said. Plenty
- of guns in this game, don't ask for too much more,
- people are going to get annoyed at
- you...wait.....already there.

get the g36k uh. see the reason i'd like the xm8 is because it is a new gun coming out, which would make sense why i would like to see it in a game. also, if i wanted the g36k i would take it, but its not the same gun as xm8. why aren't you saying anything about the reason for this thread then since the topic of it is "new gun they should add." i just gave my opinion as to what gun i would like to use, is that so hard to understand? and for people getting annoyed at me, i just got done playing with the *** clan on a server, wow great clan... get annoyed to easy like a little kid and start whining and gang up on people, tk, or just gimp. like i have said in posts before your remarks towards other people are always bad, saying they are stupid. heres an idea, read the thread first. see what is being discussed before accusing people of being stupid for what they say. another thing, why are people going to get annoyed for me posting my opinion, since that is what the topic is about. how old are you anyways by the way?

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 07:48 AM
Dude, there are maybe 2485701987019827645 other threads on here with this topic, and I'm sick of people always talking about the OICW and other guns, like they even matter? Most of the "upsides and downsides" to guns mean nothing, as this is A GAME!! Some people need to get it through their heads that this is not real life, nor is it intended to be base on any real scenario or possible event. It's based on a fictional book, written to enertain, not inform. Most people seem to think that their being good at this game will make them a kicka$$ warrior on the battle field, and it's quite maddening. Not all my posts are negative, and most questions on here are worthless, I'm just letting people know. If you don't like it, don't read it. I don't spend my time trying to butter my posts up so I don't offend little whiney babies like you.
As for the server comment, I have experienced the same thing with another clan just today, but I am not attempting this with anyone else. The thread was about an opinion, but when theres maybe 10 other threads that everyone else has posted to including yourself about a certain topic, it gets tedious.

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XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 08:55 AM
How about something along the lines of a tactical suitcase nuke.....but instead it would be smaller and only could be triggered as a self destruct mechanism when getting the dreaded frag/ladder bug...otherwise it would not be made availible.......the OCIW is a organic infantry weapons system.....basically to replace the m203 in the role of grenadier with more accurate support/suppression fire...both the us army and marine's infantry sqauds have within there fireteam's ranks men who are designated grenadiers....the grenadier troops date back to the time of Napoleon.

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XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 04:50 PM
HEY HOW DO U PUT THOSE PICKS ON THE SIDE AND BOTTOM OF THE STUFF U WRITE ??

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 06:47 PM
agentnbk wrote:
- HEY HOW DO U PUT THOSE PICKS ON THE SIDE AND BOTTOM
- OF THE STUFF U WRITE ??
-

Go to 'My Preferences' and put a link to your pic in the signature section.

As far as more weapons, like Euro said, what's the point? The think frag spamming is bad now, hand launchers out to everyone and I dare you to step out of your spawn. You also assume to think that ubi would model all of these new weps properly. There are problems with the current weapon models, new weps would just give you something different to look at with the same screwed up stats.


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XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 07:21 PM
Eur0. wrote:
- Dude, there are maybe 2485701987019827645 other
- threads on here with this topic, and I'm sick of
- people always talking about the OICW and other guns,
- like they even matter? Most of the "upsides and
- downsides" to guns mean nothing, as this is A GAME!!
- Some people need to get it through their heads that
- this is not real life, nor is it intended to be base
- on any real scenario or possible event. It's based
- on a fictional book, written to enertain, not
- inform. Most people seem to think that their being
- good at this game will make them a kicka$$ warrior
- on the battle field, and it's quite maddening. Not
- all my posts are negative, and most questions on
- here are worthless, I'm just letting people know. If
- you don't like it, don't read it. I don't spend my
- time trying to butter my posts up so I don't offend
- little whiney babies like you.
- As for the server comment, I have experienced the
- same thing with another clan just today, but I am
- not attempting this with anyone else. The thread was
- about an opinion, but when theres maybe 10 other
- threads that everyone else has posted to including
- yourself about a certain topic, it gets tedious.
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Hey dude, nobody is keeping you here! you can leave! you never had to open this thread! oh, and btw, you're contredicting yourself. if this is just a game to you then why are you all uptight? what's the point in getting mad? if there's no point to this subject then why are you getting yourself involved?

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 07:38 PM
More guns means more waiting around before a round for n00bs to finally make there mind up as to what bit of kit there gonna have with em when they get owned.

but then again guns are cool, and the kids do love em.



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XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 09:47 PM
i agree with Zxp, if u think it is only a game, y u stressin so much? but ne-way, i think they shud add a few knives, y'know?they never add knives, and i mean almost every soldier is assigned with a baynet (sry if thats spelt wrong) or sum sorta knife, thers loadsa times wer i cud easily kill one of them with a knife or summat, instead of wasting ammo on em, and havin the slight chance of alerting a near by terrorist, i also think that u shud be able to pick up weapons dropped by dead players/terrorists, so if u run outta ammo, u can either pick sum up if an enemy or dead ally is carrying the same gun as u, or u can pick up a diff gun, and collect that type of ammo?
just a thought, which i think would make the game a bit more realistc, i mean if u wer in that team, and u had no ammo or knife or whateva, u hnestly gunna do nothing or r u gunna pick up a near by gun and use that?

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XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 10:52 PM
well, and i'm not trying to sound negative, but how many times do you run completely out of ammo in RvS? are you really that trigger happy? if yes, then.....wow!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif why would you want to pick up somebody else's gun? if you want that other dude's gun then you can select it for the next round! you also don't really NEED a knife either, it's just not a necessary thing. if you're concerned about silence, then i suggest getting a silenced primary or secondary weapon./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif just my thoughts...

XyZspineZyX
11-30-2003, 11:00 PM
Picking stuff up, been discussed to death but here's my thoughts anyway. The game is based on a CT team. They don't use grenade launchers and they don't pick up enemy weapons. They carry what they need with them. They rely on their weapons which are maintained at the highest level and they wouldn't trust some hippie's AK. They don't run out of ammo since they don't go runnin and sprayin everywhere. Their missions are very short in duration and they are not designed to get into these huge firefights. Team Death Match (most MP games) is a bastard version of what the game is based on. Now, if the game was designed to be an 8v8 kill everyone game (which it is not), then maybe picking up ammo/weps would be a great idea. COD lets you do just that. But, the game is based on a different idea entirely. Make do with what the game offers. If you're running out of ammo, then you're shooting too much. I can honestly say I've never run out of ammo and I don't carry extra mags. And, I do shoot a lot.

As far as knives go, why would I take the chance of beign detected knifing a terrorist when I can kill him with a suppressed MP5, which makes almost no noise at all.

This is not a flame, so don't take it as one. I'm just giving you my thoughts.

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 12:51 AM
thanks. and btw, i agree.

XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 02:17 AM
Saying some things the people say are annoying has nothing to do with the game itself, and I have already explained my reasons for what I say, being the fact that there are entirely too many posts and threads concerning the same exact topic in this board. Get off my case, I don't target individuals with my posts, don't target me.

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 04:03 AM
this is actually quite a successfull thread dispite some people ****ging it off,

anyway, rather than adding weapons i just think they should remove the heartbeat sensor, even though i am guilty of using it every now and then. but a heartbeat sensor can remove some of the tension in the MP game, rather than sitting crapping yourself as to whats gonna happen next- a quick scan with the HBS / all clear and off you go unless sombody is using a HBS-Jammer which is rare.

Get rid of HBS.

oh.......hows about some sort of trip wire grenade

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 04:27 AM
well actually, the server can ban the HBS from the inventory. some do, most don't.

XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 04:28 AM
true......
still like the trip wire nade idea though

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 04:45 AM
check this pic out.........haha........classic...

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 06:29 AM
trip wire/motion sensor mine would be awesome, but that's how tk's happen. How about this: keep all the guns, but make them a little more true-to-life so we don't have m16's kicking like a horse on steroids, and other little irksome things that shouldn't happen. Color thermal like in Xbox would be welcome.
There, I contributed.

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XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 12:09 PM
M4 CARBINE.

mess with the best, die like the rest.

XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 12:51 PM
Uh...but the m16 DOES kick like a horse...as compard to bull pup rifles of coz..tand thats from personal experience.

the m4 though shdnt have such a great recoil. its just less accurate but it most certainly does not recoil THAT much

XyZspineZyX
12-01-2003, 06:51 PM
I THINK THEY SHOULD ADD THE ULTIMATE IN FAST FIRING GUNS. THE MINIGUN. WELL THATS JUST MY OPINION ANYWAY.



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XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 12:16 AM
Yeah it kicks, but seasoned sldiers from various special forces teams around the world SHOULD be able to handle it. This game makes you jump like a 12 year old at a firing range with his pop. And I also have fired half of these weapons, and they are nowhere near what this game makes them to be. Some are too crazy recoil(m16, p90, mp5) others are not recoil enough(ak47/74) and pistols are wayyyyyyy to inaccurate, especially while still proned or crouched. I can take an MK25 and hit a target 200 yards downrange on a walk, this game makes you miss a 50 yard stationary target standing still!!

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XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 06:38 PM
Yay....Euro added something constructive. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I agree Euro, the pistols are way too inaccurate.

But I think a knife would be pretty cool to have....nothing beats sneaking up to a sniper when playing BF1942 and laying down beside him to get his attention as you stick a knife in his face....LOL.

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 11:59 PM
but then again Euro....... as you keep reminding everybody ...

Its Just A Game

i think the guns are fairly ok for online Game use..... i like the M16 in Raven Shield but i only ever use it on single shot...

i do think that the word "realism" has been miss used in Raven Shield and other tom clancy games, i dont think they are trying to prepare people in the characteristics of modern firearms should they ever fire one... they are just giving the player a good choice of kit and trying to give each weapon its own unique uses and capabilities, If you remove the ability to kit out your team pre mission or just limit it to the few "serious" or "realistic" choices it drastically reduses the feeling of freedom and re-playability in the game.

,( lets face it who else storms a cramped building armed with SAW machine guns, other than my team of B@D@SS RAMBO"S)

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XyZspineZyX
12-03-2003, 12:02 AM
what about ........ forget the knife idea but add a bayonet extra addon, like the AK47 in Soldier of Fortune 2 MP

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XyZspineZyX
12-07-2003, 07:02 PM
ahh, i can post agen, jeez it always seems to ban me every now and agen, for no reason, or so i think, i mean i nvr know y i am banned but ne way, yes i am Very trigger happy, and i run outta ammo relativly fast, and sumtimes i find it wud be so much easier to stab sum1 than to havta waste ammo on them, i mean please if it was real life, and i didnt have a knife, i would snap his neck or summat rather than waste ammo, i would like to be able to pick up enemy weapons/ammo cos i do run outta ammo for all my weapons relativly fast, if i am feelin a lil anxious, and yet when i run outta ammo for all my weps, what can i do? i mean i dont normaly use extra mags, but i dought they'd help, all i am sayin is it wud make it more realistic, not sayin u havta, but u have the option, i mean if u wer in a nti-terrorist group, and say u waisted all ur ammo (like me, goin bk to y i would like knives in da game) and u have no means to fight them,i would take my chances with a not-so-well kept AK rather than a high standard G36K which has absolutly no ammo

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XyZspineZyX
12-07-2003, 11:48 PM
ok, just a joke to add here :-P...

if you were on an anit-terrorist team you wouln't be wasting ammo! i mean you wouldn't be ON the team if you wasted ammo. for one reason, the government couldn't afford you. second, you would never have been put on the team in the first place if you just run around spraying the terrorists! how many bullets does it take for the guy to die? 1-3. so you have to get your crosshairs (in the game) on the dude's head, click the mouse button, and wa-la. you have 1 out of 35 or so dead terrorists. you have more than 35 bullets.

so my advice you to is...stop, aim, fire...then move on to elite... or take off the auto aim once you get good enough. oh, and in multiplayer you have unlimited pistol ammo.

i realize that you said "you don't have to add it", but i'm just saying some of the reasons why they didn't in the first place and why they most likely won't in the near future.

another reason would be that how would the do the first person? you see all these games with a knife and it looks really cheezy when you're running around holding up your arm with a knife. how could they do that so it wouldn't be so weird? you could bring up the grenades and say "just do it like they did with the nades!", but what about not first person? when you look at some other guy with his knife out, it would look really stupid (in my opinion), not to mention unprofessional, if he's just standing there with a knife in his hand...or running around. it would just be too awkward. as for picking up ammo and guns, it goes back to practice. just learn to be more resorceful with what you have.

again, i'm not trying to attack you. i understand how it is when you get excited either just by yourself, or showing a friend, etc. so don't take it personally. i'm just telling you only a few of the reasons why they didn't add those aspects to the game.

if you want more reasons, ask and if i have time, i'll give em to ya /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 01:55 AM
Before getting new guns how about making some bullets that actually has different properties. Really, the aug, l85a1, and g36k are the same guns. The MP5A4 and the Vintorez are essentially the same. The only difference between guns is really just the sound and accuracy (except when we cross from 9mm to 5.56, but even then, only damage and range is changed.)

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 06:45 AM
What about the AN-94 Assault Rifle "Abakan" 5.45mm, it is the most advanced Russian Assult rifle out their right now. It fires its first 2 rds at 1600 rpm, then cycles down to around 600 rpm after that. It is supposed to put out 2 rounds before the gunner is effected by the kick back.

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 06:48 AM
Now that's technology for ya...

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 07:08 AM
HK G11

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 11:40 AM
I see what your getting at here but your a bit off. It's guns that use the same ammo that have the same damage regardless of what the stats say. The Vintorez uses 9x39mm ammo, mp5 9x19mm. They do different damage. However a beretta 9mm pistol and an mp5 9mm, or the p228, or the beretta M12 or the Uzi all do the same damage. Its the same with the 5.56mm rifles as you rightly said. It seems that they just applied a damage to a particular type of round rather than damage based on the gun and the round.

OtB-Snowman wrote:
- Before getting new guns how about making some
- bullets that actually has different properties.
- Really, the aug, l85a1, and g36k are the same guns.
- The MP5A4 and the Vintorez are essentially the same.
- The only difference between guns is really just the
- sound and accuracy (except when we cross from 9mm to
- 5.56, but even then, only damage and range is
- changed.)
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XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 08:25 PM
The damage really depends where u hit the target, if u aim for the head with any gun, it will kill it, as far as damage of the guns go, i dont think it really matters it just depends what gun u like to use. Or if u like to use semi-auto u might wanna go for m14 wich is pretty much one shot one kill or the ak-47. 2-4 shots with ANY gun will kill the target no matter where u shoot.

mess with the best, die like the rest.

XyZspineZyX
12-08-2003, 09:09 PM
The major difference between the guns is the recoil kickback and overall accuracy/stability. You can take the L85A1 and the G36K out, and you're going to get better grouping in full spray with the L85 than the g36, due to increased recoil in the G36. The AUG is somewhere in the middle, with improved accuracy over both of them.

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XyZspineZyX
12-09-2003, 05:32 AM
Yea the gun kick is allot I mean allot out of hand I have shot an M16 and it had NO kick I was 24 at the time I used the Gun. And many soldiers say the same thing it has no kick unless my grandmother is using it. LOL

They MUST fix the BULLET BUG and THE firing BUT (KICK) it is essential for this games survival

XyZspineZyX
12-12-2003, 05:48 PM
I would imagine that teh accuracy of the weapons in the game has been scaled from the real values to fit the size of the environments featured. I think that if the weapons had their propper accuracies then there would be:

1) No noticable difference between them.
2) Possible (and this may be controversial) lack of gameplay and dare I say it fun!

Having said that, it is a bit ridiculous that I can't get a decent accuracy with an L-85A1 or Mk.23. Our lot used Browning Hi-Powers for years out to 50 yards with headshot accuracy.

Cheers, Cen.

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 01:06 AM
Dude i watched a thing on the history channel about the M16. It said it had so little recoil that a 12 year old could shoot it.....(hope this doesn't start a flame war)
anyways thats what i heard.


AND WE SHOULD GET THE SOPMOD KIT FOR THE M4!!!

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:49 AM
Silenced Howitzer cannon. Mechanical, radio controlled attack dogs. Silenced sawed off shotgun. Poison tipped spear. Bannana peel. A couple ****** bags. What do you guys think?? Good no?

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 02:10 PM
Perhaps you people would like to stop talking about Ravenshield weapons, and the addition of them...

The OICW would be pointless in RS, due to its bulkiness and lack of manouverability... Not to mention the fact that the levels on Ravenshield are too small to be using a CAGL (computer-aided grenade launcher)...

Please view this post, as it explains my poistion as a member of the German Bundeswehr.

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 02:58 AM
Bah some people think its arcadish to give the guns realistically low recoil and proper damage...

Anyone NOT play americas army here? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif lol probably everyone has tried it, it's a very dry game but (rvs is just to wet), in a very good way like a simulator...It's got the grit, and funding, and best developers ever, to be the best ever and that's no joke.

the m16 fees so perfect in their, damage seems right...recoil...everything... It also makes you feel like unless you got a buddy or two next to you, and your skilled, that your chances to repel a multi-enemy assault are slim to nill...Best chance would be pop a nade or three and fall back while yellin into your microphone for someone on a saw to cover your retreat /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I also think ravenshield, and many other new games, seem to be taking steps back in realism and detail and support because they are not really completed games...their like sub games...elaborate beta would better describe them....Their ideas were cut short so the game could be "done" in time with as few developers as possible for some lame deadline...but the problem is truely the companys idea of poke and hope to get a good game out there...Like anyone try Halo or max payne 2...Their like the only new games that are worth our money, but for all the realism, and sopmod kid /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif , AAO deserves our lives lol.

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 07:13 AM
Think of an OICW with its 20mm launcher! It would be insane.

XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 07:29 AM
They did miss an important handgun. The FiveseveN is the handgun brother of the P90. Just my 2c worth......

XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 09:18 PM
ernestponce wrote:
- Personally i think there is alot of guns in this
- game as there is but I think that they should put in
- the colt 1911. i mean the gun has served threw 2
- world wars. its a peice of histroy B)
-
-

Screw the M1911 that gun's a POS compared to what we already have. What we need is a Glock 17c or 19c, damnit! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Thats the one thing that still baffles me - one of the most common law enforcement sidearms in the world is not in this game! Whatdo we get instead? The SPP (that gun sucks @$$), and TWO Desert Eagles! Also a nice Walther P99 would be cool, either that or a Smith & Wesson SW99. (practically the same gun)

Also the XM8, L96A1, and Barret M98 would also b good additions. The DSR-1 is a must. Maybe even an SPR or SR-25. An MSG-90 might be cool too. Something like a PKM or a Pecheneg would be good new LMG additions (we're already getting the M240G, and we have something similar to the RPK) The TEC/9 and the Glock 18c would be good new machine pistols. For SMGs i think an MP-7, the Steyr AUG Para, or the famous Colt mod. 635 would be nice. Maybe a Calico would be cool too.

Glocks: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg15-e.htm
Walther P99: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg14-e.htm
XM8: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm
L96A1: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn06-e.htm
DSR-1: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm
M98: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn07-e.htm (kind of a crappy pic - its way cooler in real life)
SR-25: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn13-e.htm
MSG-90: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn27-e.htm
PKM: http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg07-e.htm
Pecheneg: http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg30-e.htm
MP-7: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg49-e.htm
AUG Para: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg12-e.htm
mod. 635: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg35-e.htm
Calico: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg57-e.htm

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 09:53 PM
dirtydannyd wrote:
- They did miss an important handgun. The FiveseveN
- is the handgun brother of the P90. Just my 2c
- worth......
-
-
-
-

they DID add the Five-seveN. Its called the AP Army for liscensing/copyright reasons....

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 10:04 PM
They should add a G36 (standard varient), as apposed to the Carbine G36K (with shorter barrel and hence lower muzzle velocity= less range, power and accuracy in this instance).

As a member of the German Bundeswehr (armed border police), I can give you more information than you could ever dream of about how these weapons are to fire...

I have used the PSG-1, MP5A4 and MP7 PDW, as well as the G36 in real life... If you are using Ravenshield to compare weapons, DON'T! It is designed so that all weapons have some downside, and all recoil so much, so the game isn't too unbalanced. If you look at the stats of Dragunov-vs those of the PSG-1, It will obviously not make the Dragunov less than half as accurate as the PSG-1, as this would destroy the balance (even though the Dragunov is 2MOA and the PSG1 is sub-1MOA at below 600m...

The G36 is extremely light, and has very light recoil even during full auto (hence it is extremely easy to control). I don't want to start with the MP5A4, as you can see for yourself: http://www.hkpro.com/video/MP5.mov

A useful source of information regarding the G36 (stadart varient) is http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm

It includes a video of the gun firing, and reinforces the weight issue... There is a reason why the US Army will soon scrap the M16 and replace it with the XM8 (based upon the G36) http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user880686/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=005661

I am sure they will choose a more tasteful colour as well!

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 03:45 AM
hmmm...i dunno it looks to me like they did a fairly decent job with hte MP5. Recoil characteristics look similar as in the game, and they got the sound spot-on.

thats cool the suppressed MP5Navy gets quieter as you fire in automatic. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 05:35 AM
glocks arent that nice to look at IMO...And just because everyone has them doesn't make them the best...like buying from the lowest bidder. And besides 9mm is a pos bullet to use against badguys...except in ravenshield where its like your shooting unarmorted people with handheld rifles lol.

My dad has the p228 and colt45...both are nice guns...the colt 45 is real cool to hold and seems lightweight to me IMO, but i just wish it had a double stack magazine...8 shots seems limited in a defensive situation. My dads friend bought a 9mm version of the hkusp...it looks the same...i'm not used to holding half plastic guns but it seemed real comfortable and almost like a toy with easy access to the mag and slide release which is nice. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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12-15-2003, 05:36 AM
In Ghost Recon, which I sometimes play, the OICW is the most widely used gun. Hands down. I use it. With that stupid grenade launcher all you hear in some games is the chunk-a-chunk-a-chunk-a-chunk of the semi auto launchers everyone has. You hear that signate sound and you hit the deck as your screen shakes violently , causes massive lag, and hope that noob didnt just waste half your team. occasionally exciting? YES. But most of the time it just takes away from the strategy of it all. the OICW i feel has destroyed Ghost Recon, and I feel it would destroy RvS as well, (whats left of RvS anyway, after the devs butchered it)

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 11:48 AM
I'll say G36C, though it's very similar to the G36K in performance...

That being said it wouldn't matter in the slightest which guns Ubi would add because in reality we're only talking about the skins. The actual behaviors of guns in game have no basis in reality. Their recoils and damage don't in the slightest coinside with the laws of physics of this universe. The label "realism" Ubi used for this game was only directed at people who don't really know or care about it.

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:48 PM
Okay... I know that video may not be a very good indication, but trust me, the MP5 is far too hard to handle on Ravenshield

I use one frequently, and know how easy they are to hanndle.. Sure, it takes a bit of practice, but we have to remember that these guys are members of the Rainbow 6 SWAT team...

To be honest with you, if you fire an MP5A4 on full auto, as long as you pull down (as you automatically do if you fire in real life), it has very low recoil indeed...

As a matter of fact, the G36 (standard varient) recoils less if you fire 4/5 bullets per "burst" than the MP5A4 on Ravenshield...

It is, however, only a game... Which is lucky, because the G36K can tear your arm off at about 200m



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