and you all said T3 would suck...

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especially demon_mustang...looks like youre wrong again.

as usual.


went over to gamefaqs movie board, and everyone really liked it. gg
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especially demon_mustang...looks like youre wrong again.

as usual.


went over to gamefaqs movie board, and everyone really liked it. gg
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Its an awsome movie I saw it yesterday. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



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- went over to gamefaqs movie board, and everyone
- really liked it.

That proves nothing, may they're all wrong.

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OMG, you have horrible taste in movies then. I just saw it with a friend, and we spent more than two hours after the movie was done discussing how much the movie sucked. Oh man, it was a waste of my two hours, a waste of my $6. It was a freakin child's movie, only teenieboppers who don't know what a real action movie is would like this movie, sorry, but it was HORRIBLE.

First of all, John Conner was supposed to be 10 in T2, in this movie, he said he was 13!!!!! WRONG!!!!!

Arnold plays a T800 Model 101 Infiltrator Terminator, in this movie, he says he is a T101!!!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!!

These simple obvious mistakes could have been fixed if the screenplay writer simply WATCHED Terminator 2!!!!!!

It went T800 to T1000 to TX???????

The TX's acting was HORRIBLE!!!!

She grew boobs just to kill the cop for his gun!! NO REASON TO GROW THE BOOBS!!!

She was able to do a retinal scan on the first victims, but on the woman with the cat, she needed to TASTE her blood!! Why not just scan her retina??????????

This movie claimed that Skynet was always going to be developed by Kate Brewster's dad all along!!! WRONG!!! The Terminator himself from T2 said that skynet was developed by Miles Bennett Dyson of the Cyberdyne Systems!!!! And his records are not wrong!!!

Arnold is a machine, and has no opinions, yet, all throughout the movie he gave his opinions about the "inevitability" of judgment day, of the future of John and humans, etc. etc. The Terminator should only dish out FACTS!!

John Conner knows damn well that the T800 from T2 was destroyed and this one would not have any of it's memory, yet, he mentions all the catch phrases from T2 anyhow!!!

The Lexus product placement was so obvious and horrendous!!!

The Terminator himself proclaims he lacks the memory of the one from T2, yet, he remembers the keys hidden in the sun visor from the very beginning!!!!!!

THE FREAKIN FONT IN TERMAVISION WAS WAY TOO FREAKIN BIG!!!!!!

We saw the way they travel through time from T2, it was a quick glowing ball that discepates immediately, yet, in this movie, it's a silver metallic, shiney ball that grows slowly then stays and hums for a while until it melts away!!!! WRONG!!!!!

Arnold can hold on to the crane hook through buildings and such, but can't hang on through a firetruck!! ridiculous, not to mention the impact does not damage the truck or change it's course at all!!!

Cars are not equipped to power the steering wheels by themselves, all the modifications of the world to the internal computers cannot possibly drive cars around by themselves! Not to mention the Tx would not have been able to see where they were going while they were on remote control, yet they drove through the city around obstacles just fine!!!!!

The Terminator admits to being obsolete, and has proven to be unable to damage the TX in any way in several fight scenes, yet in the end, he was able to crush her arm!!!!

Not to mention when he crushes the TX's arm, she screams in pain!!! Terminators sense damage, NOT pain!!!!!

Later in the movie, the Terminator proclaims that he takes orders from Kate Brewster. Yet in the beginning of the movie, he neglects any of her orders, and instead shows signs of annoyance (which Terminators would not feel) and even spoke rudely to her!!!!!

TERMINATOR DOES NOT LIE!!!!!! This one, he openly admits to lying!!!!!!

HE DOES NOT SAY "I'll be back" ANYWHERE IN THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!

The TX stares at herself in the mirror as she walks by it, what, is she a vain robot???????

The Terminator is unable to disable or "self terminate" but in this one, he does!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!!

The Terminator was crushed by a simple industrial hydrolic press in the original, yet, a big huge honkin blast door cannot crush him in this one!!!!!!!!!

He originally struggles to hold the door open with both hands, yet was able to let go with one hand later to hold on to the TX, then proceeds to remove his power core with his OTHER HAND later in that scene!!!!! What is he using to hold up the door then?????????

Not to mention, he has one main power core, and one reserve, he already lost one in the beginning, now he removed his reserve, yet he still talks and moves!!!!!!!!!

The Terminator speaks very technical and proper, in the first one, he describes the T1000 to be able to "imitate anything it samples by physical contact." In this one, he says "imitate anything it touches" which was John Conner's words, NOT the Terminator's!!!!!!!!

OMG, I CAN KEEP GOING!!!!!!

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--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Demon's a James Camron fan, and because Jimmy isn't behind it, he perdicts that'll suck, the same way the last two "Alien" movies did. Jonathan Mostow is already a proven director(He was behind oscar-winner U-571), he's not completely inexperienced like the director of Alien3. He said that he won't completely changed the movie the sameway many new directors do when they're put in charge of sequals. Terminator is the movie that made James Camron who he is today, I doubt that he'll let somebody just screw up his main money/fame-maker with a bad sequal and I doubt that Arnold would have retook his orginal role either if that was too happen. Some of the worse movie critics will look for any small detail that could be used to bash T3, but movie-goers won't be that shallow.

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Wanna make a bet. If its a sequel then FOLLOW the story. Maybe go see one (the prequel) and take a note pad.


Besides, like I said before, just go back and kill gramma and grampa.





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Predicts???? Did you read any of what I wrote?? Those are all facts FROM THE MOVIE!! I SAW THE FREAKIN MOVIE!!!!

Plus, James Cameron does NOT own the rights to Terminator. It wasn't up to him how screwed up or not this movie became.

Jonathon Mostow was chosen as the director late into the production, after the script and everything was already done basically, the script was already screwed up when the writer of Tank Girl wrote it!!

Arnold only agreed to do this movie as a favor to the producers, C2, which is really supposed to be Carolco 2, Carolco being the production company behind T2, Mario Kassar and the other dude started the failed company back up, and are friends with Arnold.

I think if they got James Cameron to direct this, he would have made sure their acting was better, but the storyline would still have sucked.

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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So, you didn't think the movie was good?



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"the director of Alien3"

Didn't want to do it. It was a trade off. He agrees to make a crap alien movie, he also gets funding for the film he wanted to make.

Fight Club.

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people say enemy at the gates was awesome, and that was dog turd. Goes to show what people know.



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Message Edited on 07/03/0305:47PM by ASHcom

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SakoKK wrote:
- Demon's a James Camron fan, and because Jimmy isn't
- behind it, he perdicts that'll suck,


me too, and it does.


the same way
- the last two "Alien" movies did. Jonathan Mostow is
- already a proven director(He was behind oscar-winner
- U-571), he's not completely inexperienced like the
- director of Alien3.

So. It still sucks. And Alien 3 was not finchers fault. It was Weaver and the studio's fault. Its a long story.


He said that he won't completely
- changed the movie the sameway many new directors do
- when they're put in charge of sequals. Terminator is
- the movie that made James Camron who he is today, I
- doubt that he'll let somebody just screw up his main
- money/fame-maker with a bad sequal

He does not own the rights to the film. he sold the original rights for $1 so he could Direct terminator. They let him do T2 because he rocks. they wnated him to do T3 but he said the script was terrible, but that was the script the studio wanted. cameron is VERY dissapointed by T3.


and I doubt that
- Arnold would have retook his orginal role either if
- that was too happen.

He hsa made PLENTY of crap films. And he's getting desperate. he's not what he used to be and he knows it. He once vowed he would never do T3 unless Cameron was involved. So much for that.

Some of the worse movie critics
- will look for any small detail that could be used to
- bash T3, but movie-goers won't be that shallow.


Moviegoers no be shallow. LOL. Most movie goers are gits. Which is why so much crap does well.

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ASHcom wrote:
- people say enemy at the gates was awesome, and that
- was dog turd. Goes to show what people know.
-
If we as a society collectively didn't have such an excellent taste how else would the Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Pet Rock inventor, etc. sell so many units?

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Are you STILL going on about Enemy at the Gates, Ash? LMAO. It was definately no worse then Sniper there, moviefan. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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it was evil.

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KingofThieves wrote:
- Are you STILL going on about Enemy at the Gates,
- Ash? LMAO. It was definately no worse then Sniper
- there, moviefan.

Enemy at the Gates was one of the worst movies and one of the biggest movie dissapointments for me.


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Hey hey hey!! Let's not get off-topic here! We are supposed to continue on the topic of T3 sucking!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif It was horrible, 2 hours of my life, wasted...

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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jared. wrote:
gg


OMG did jared actually say something positive??? There's still hope for him! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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Demon, you paid $6 for T3 and you're complaining? I had to pay $9 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

This movie was made for the special effects which where IMO excellent.

BTW...welcome back

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interesting that you say all that stuff demon mustang, but i think it would be possible that what happened in T2 changed the future... and therefore made alot ofthe capabilities of the T101 to be different.

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Hornet57 wrote:
- This movie was made for the special effects which
- where IMO excellent.
-

T2 was also made for the effects, revolutionising CGI, yet it was superior. matrix was about effects and was superior. So why can't T3 bbe a good effects movie? Effects should enhance, not be the sole part of, a storyline.

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ASHcom wrote:
- people say enemy at the gates was awesome, and that
- was dog turd. Goes to show what people know.


Man. that movie ROCKED!!!!!!!! It was the best movie I had seen in a while.

Oh. Wait... I thought you said "Show Girls". Never mind. Enemy at the gates was dog turds.


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Kimi, it was probably a typo.

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He probably meant bg? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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Dth.Reaper wrote:
"and therefore made alot ofthe capabilities of the T101 to be different."

Holy hell man, T3 has corrupted your systems!!!

Arnold is a T800 Model 101, NOT a T101!!!!!

Hornet wrote:
"This movie was made for the special effects which where IMO excellent."

Most of it was, some of it actually looked really fake, but too bad special effects does not make a movie good, oh well.

"BTW...welcome back"

It's good to be back /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Ash wrote:
"T2 was also made for the effects, revolutionising CGI, yet it was superior. matrix was about effects and was superior. So why can't T3 bbe a good effects movie? Effects should enhance, not be the sole part of, a storyline."

All good points, except the fact that T2 actually didn't have many CGI effects like people think. A lot of it was done with common gags and Stan Winston puppets and gags. But yah, I get your point and agree with it completely, T3 was relying on special effects so much that they couldn't have stuck with the CORRECT way of doing some things that has been seen from T2, like the way they appear in our time, they had to try to make it look "cooler." How lame...

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Ahhhhh

Now all this discussion on T3,
Just another reason to redeploy so I can see it and toss in my 2cents worth!!

Oh well.


"Brave Rifles!"

- Matt
"The spirit of the Cav is reason enough to fight!"

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The ending was the best part w/ all the missiles shooting up and stuff. Awesome special effects. Plus, it had some story to it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif which is always welcome.

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Too bad the story sucked, the story in T2 was awesome. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I watched T2 again the other day, get my mind off the suckiness of T3, back to the T2 goodness. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Edit: But I have to agree, the ending was the best, but not the missiles part, farther into the ending, like I would say maybe at the beginning of the credits. Heck, at the very end of the credits when the lights came back on, oh wait, no, I walked out of the theater as soon as the credits started rolling, so I guess the credits in general was the best part of the movie, they had the T2 theme on the credits, so that was kind of cool. Yep...

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Demon, was it really that bad. You are wasting so much time (it is your time to waste) reliving how bad the movie was. go see another (NOT T3) movie to take your mind off of it.



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I've tried that already, I'm still steaming from how they ruined the Terminator name, AND they ended the rule that Arnold must say "I'll be back" in his Terminator movies!!!

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Demon,

Man, Just wait another 13 years when they come out with the "Ultimate Edition T3 DVD" with the 40 minutes of never seen before footage... I am sure they will have added his "I'll be back line".

If not then... maybe in the Super duper ultimate edition that will follow a month later.

However I am upset that it is not in this version. Not sure if I want to see it now.



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"The spirit of the Cav is reason enough to fight!"

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Now why would I pay to buy a DVD?? Not to mention the fact that they will probably not even remember T3 13 years later. I won't watch that movie again even if someone paid me...

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Demon_Mustang wrote:
I won't watch that movie again even if someone paid me...

I'll give you $1000 to watch it. Oh, I guess you aren't interested. Anyone else?

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Message Edited on 07/07/0312:40PM by c.787

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I guess I can go to sleep as soon as the movie begins, so I'll take the money /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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The first terminator movie is the best one!
even though the special effects are a little cheesey

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About Arnold not saying "I'll be back" in T3, that might hint that Arnold isn't coming back for another Terminator.

T3's main weakness is it's storyline and plot holes. Hopefully when the DVD comes out, they'll edit the lines that where John Connor he was 13 during T2, where Arnold said he's a T-101(supposed to be T-800 model 101), and so on. It was a good movie with some faults, but Demon prefers Legally Blond 2, he saw that movie 5 times in the theater already and is thinking of going again.



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I wanna see machines versus humans.

Lots of machines.


tons of humans.



gunfire



crashes



death



destruction



limbs thru the air



microchips melting in napalm



and at least 1 breast shot of a cute woman.



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I don't see what Sak's point was to suggest that I would even go watch Legally Blonde 2, especially since I never even seen the first one. And especially since all his "points" were brought up by me, haha. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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Demon_Mustang wrote:
- I don't see what Sak's point was to suggest that I
- would even go watch Legally Blonde 2, especially
- since I never even seen the first one. And
- especially since all his "points" were brought up by
- me, haha. <img

I just have a sense of humor, I know you wouldn't go see any movie like Legally Blond.

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Just making sure you weren't saying anything about my taste in movies. Although I know you think it... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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ahhh yes, but, in t1 or t2 did you get to see a hot chick naked? I think not. t3 had at least 1 good part. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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*deep breath*

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--"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man." -Col. Jack O'Neill -Stargate SG-1
--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell

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S-Co.Tetsuo wrote:
- ahhh yes, but, in t1 or t2 did you get to see a hot
- chick naked? I think not. t3 had at least 1 good
- part. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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Actually we can see Sarah Connor (Lindah Hamilton) breasts in T1 in the making of John Connor /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

(and clearly for a short time if you have maxed the TV brightnesshttp://www.rage3d.com/board/images/smilies/drool2.gif )


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[XyZspineZyX]

Yah, that's right, and you actually see them, it's not like the side shots, the almost naked butt shots and the hair (and car mirror) conveniently covering her tits like in T3.

But nudity and extreme gore and violence only really appeals to the younger audience. I can really care less, I'd rather watch a movie for it's content...

Well, unless it's the first time you see someone naked, like if they had a movie with a nude scene of Kelly Hu *drools* /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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[sweetflowcrazy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Guest:
OMG, you have horrible taste in movies then. I just saw it with a friend, and we spent more than two hours after the movie was done discussing how much the movie sucked. Oh man, it was a waste of my two hours, a waste of my $6. It was a freakin child's movie, only teenieboppers who don't know what a real action movie is would like this movie, sorry, but it was HORRIBLE. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try convincing a teenybopper of all the science fiction in this movie. They'll live in fear for weeks. I once convinced one I was a vampire.
VAMPIRES DON'T EXIST, WE'RE ALL HUMAN.
So why would gullible teenyboppers like this? They'd much rather go show their raisins at an NSync concert.
I'm about to blow your bull**** out of the water, "Guest" who likes Stargate, Sum of All Fears, and Splash.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
First of all, John Conner was supposed to be 10 in T2, in this movie, he said he was 13!!!!! WRONG!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is 12 years later. 13? Where the Hell did you get that? I never saw that, and I've watched this movie ALOT. He's freakin 22!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Arnold plays a T800 Model 101 Infiltrator Terminator, in this movie, he says he is a T101!!!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

T101 is an abbreviation Arnold as the Terminator used as "Cyberdyne systems model 101". ABBREVIATION. He's a T-850 endoskeleton now, not a T-800 anymore.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> These simple obvious mistakes could have been fixed if the screenplay writer simply WATCHED Terminator 2!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yeah, the screenplay writer never WATCHED the movie T2, they simply created random ****e, right! *cough* bull****.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
It went T800 to T1000 to TX??????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Terminatrix! Female Terminator, get it?
T850 battling the T-100,000. How easier is it to say X on film?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The TX's acting was HORRIBLE!!!!

She grew boobs just to kill the cop for his gun!! NO REASON TO GROW THE BOOBS!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

She didn't grow boobs to kill the cop, she saw the typical woman that men want, the fasion model on the billboard. THAT'S why she grew the boobs, to conform to desire/distraction.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> She was able to do a retinal scan on the first victims, but on the woman with the cat, she needed to TASTE her blood!! Why not just scan her retina?????????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe she didn't have a retinal scan of Catherine Brewster or John Connor? Hmm? Ever think of that? NO!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> This movie claimed that Skynet was always going to be developed by Kate Brewster's dad all along!!! WRONG!!! The Terminator himself from T2 said that skynet was developed by Miles Bennett Dyson of the Cyberdyne Systems!!!! And his records are not wrong!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No ****e, but Catherine Brewster's dad wasn't "always going to develop" Skynet. The Skynet program directive was taken over by the military after the destruction of the Cyberdyne Labs. And you say you payed attention to this movie.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Arnold is a machine, and has no opinions, yet, all throughout the movie he gave his opinions about the "inevitability" of judgment day, of the future of John and humans, etc. etc. The Terminator should only dish out FACTS!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The "inevitability" of judgement day IS a fact in that movie. Without the T800 in T1 coming back through time, they STILL would've developed the technology ON THEIR OWN. How did they create the technology in the future BEFORE the T800 came back through time? Think about it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> John Conner knows damn well that the T800 from T2 was destroyed and this one would not have any of it's memory, yet, he mentions all the catch phrases from T2 anyhow!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually he doesn't, he mentions the ******* catch phrases in the game Terminator 3: Redemption for no reason though.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Lexus product placement was so obvious and horrendous!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

BUT they needed a sponsor. Deal with it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Terminator himself proclaims he lacks the memory of the one from T2, yet, he remembers the keys hidden in the sun visor from the very beginning!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is a more highly advanced Terminator, the T-850. Meaning that 49 types came before it.
It obviously learns better than it's predecessors. Remember the T-800 in T2 asking "why why why why why" when it was told it cannot kill anyone? This one doesn't act so stupid with Catherine Brewster.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> THE FREAKIN FONT IN TERMAVISION WAS WAY TOO FREAKIN BIG!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

omg no! just like your caps letters!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> We saw the way they travel through time from T2, it was a quick glowing ball that discepates immediately, yet, in this movie, it's a silver metallic, shiney ball that grows slowly then stays and hums for a while until it melts away!!!! WRONG!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They advanced past the T-1000 to a T-1000 + morphing arm weapon terminatrix. Of course they could've advanced their time-travel technology.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Arnold can hold on to the crane hook through buildings and such, but can't hang on through a firetruck!! ridiculous, not to mention the impact does not damage the truck or change it's course at all!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When Arnold struck the ambulance whilst holding onto the crane hook, the ambulance wasn't coming at him FULL FORCE. Buildings are made of rock compounds, sheetrock and glass where the ones she drove him through. A firetruck is made of STRONG METAL.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Cars are not equipped to power the steering wheels by themselves, all the modifications of the world to the internal computers cannot possibly drive cars around by themselves! Not to mention the Tx would not have been able to see where they were going while they were on remote control, yet they drove through the city around obstacles just fine!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They where powered by "nanotechnological transjectors", meaning "very tiny robots" that she projected from her finger-spike.
These very tiny robots are used to control machines of any type. With all cars now made with onboard electrical systems, she was able to control them remotely.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Terminator admits to being obsolete, and has proven to be unable to damage the TX in any way in several fight scenes, yet in the end, he was able to crush her arm!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Her arm has already been through some major ****e.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Not to mention when he crushes the TX's arm, she screams in pain!!! Terminators sense damage, NOT pain!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

She screams that he's stopped her from completing her objective, killing John and Catherine.
Didn't you notice the gasp of surprise when she samples Connor's DNA in the animal shelter?
AND her various smirks?
She's obviously been programmed with advanced AI, maybe even capable of minor emotion.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Later in the movie, the Terminator proclaims that he takes orders from Kate Brewster. Yet in the beginning of the movie, he neglects any of her orders, and instead shows signs of annoyance (which Terminators would not feel) and even spoke rudely to her!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"You have to let me go!" would've meant he would fail his main objective of preventing her from harm. A machine programmed to protect a human can only obey a human's orders as long as it does not conflict with the objective of protecting the human from harm.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> TERMINATOR DOES NOT LIE!!!!!! This one, he openly admits to lying!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Terminator does not lie? Since when? Why would it always have to tell the truth? It's a freakin robot with skin!
It's not going to feel guilt for lying.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> HE DOES NOT SAY "I'll be back" ANYWHERE IN THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He says "she'll be back". But wait a minute, weren't you pissed off at him using quotes from the previous Terminator, and now you're pissed off he's NOT using quotes?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The TX stares at herself in the mirror as she walks by it, what, is she a vain robot??????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's called "damage assessment".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Terminator is unable to disable or "self terminate" but in this one, he does!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The previous Terminator was unable to self-terminate. He makes no reference to that in his programming on this movie.
The first time was not self-termination, it was a system restart.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Terminator was crushed by a simple industrial hydrolic press in the original, yet, a big huge honkin blast door cannot crush him in this one!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a T-EIGHT FIFTY! T-850!
Which means it's stronger, better, and more resilient.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> He originally struggles to hold the door open with both hands, yet was able to let go with one hand later to hold on to the TX, then proceeds to remove his power core with his OTHER HAND later in that scene!!!!! What is he using to hold up the door then????????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And he needs to hold the door up to keep from being crushed after he's placed his nuclear-fuelcell into the mouth of the TX?
"Oh ****, I'm about to blow into many many pieces, I'd better hold the door up to ensure my survival.." WHAT?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Not to mention, he has one main power core, and one reserve, he already lost one in the beginning, now he removed his reserve, yet he still talks and moves!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which means the reserve power core keeps him stable for an unexplained amount of time before he shuts down. This stems from the same truth that some people have been known to speak after being shot in the heart or the head.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The Terminator speaks very technical and proper, in the first one, he describes the T1000 to be able to "imitate anything it samples by physical contact." In this one, he says "imitate anything it touches" which was John Conner's words, NOT the Terminator's!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This T-850 model Terminator in T3 is more advaaaaanced. Which means it adapts to language barriers easier.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> OMG, I CAN KEEP GOING!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please don't. It's too easy to argue against.

~sweetflowcrazy~

[Olegious]

wow.... you spent time and energy to ressurect this post?

[sweetflowcrazy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Olegious:
wow.... you spent time and energy to ressurect this post? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A small fraction of time yes.
I'm used to debating in forums all the time.
Energy?
If this winded me, I'd be in need of some serious exercise.

[IguanaKing]

Don't you think it might be a bit difficult to debate with whoever that was when the last post in this old thread was almost 4 years ago?

Do you know why the screenname said "guest"? That's what the forum software does to save space after a thread has been dead for a year or two.

[Thoramir]

Iguana,

The guest in question was Demon Mustang. . . I don't doubt that he is still POed about that movie. If there's one 4 year old topic he'd be inclined to argue about then this thread is probably it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[IguanaKing]

Hehehe...well, let the fur fly then, Thor. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I see this kind of thing a lot on the UBI forums though. Somebody who's three sheets to the wind and looking for a fight, and they stumble upon an old thread that lights their fire. Then they make 2 or 3 posts and never come back again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif