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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 10:38 PM
I believe that one of the best features in Raven Shield is the ability to put "attachments" on your weapon. What should ubisoft include as attachments in the Athena Sword expansion set? -I think that a weapon flashlight (like Halo) and laser pointer would be cool



Message Edited on 06/25/0309:40PM by Hoontar

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 10:38 PM
I believe that one of the best features in Raven Shield is the ability to put "attachments" on your weapon. What should ubisoft include as attachments in the Athena Sword expansion set? -I think that a weapon flashlight (like Halo) and laser pointer would be cool



Message Edited on 06/25/0309:40PM by Hoontar

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 10:58 PM
I agree, flashlights (and lasers) would rock. Not only because there sweet, but becuase sometimes rooms are still dark even with the NvGs on, so it would be handy. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Plus cool.

Don't forget about cool to. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif



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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 12:07 AM
M203 would be great for single player.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 12:24 AM
Would be cool if we could get SD and a scope, if wanted.. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 02:28 AM
Flashlights would be good for movies (game captures). But lasers, hell yeah http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 02:41 AM
yeah all said sounds cool,

cept im dissapointed that you can only have one attachment

even if it was only in single player it would be good if you could have as many attachments as you want

say a scope and a cmag, or a flash light and a silencer

of course there would be instances on some guns where you couldnt put on multiple attachments (ie laser and torch) becuase they are in the same place.

but yeah, that would be cool, even if it were just in single player, it might just make me stop playing Americas Amry and go back to raven sheild

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 02:46 AM
i stopped playing AA because of the major blatant cheating yaknow, its not got ot that size in RvS yet but i do hope for multi-tachments, i might even play SP if thats all you could do it in lol

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 02:52 AM
Firstly i think torches woudl be leet, but firstly they shoudl make some maps have dark areas, or bits where you can shoot lights so that people use NVG's. then the flashlight can blind them etc etc.

Secondly i think the cmags are crap, in real life it would make the gun x10 heavy and woudl pull ur aim to ****. Apart from being banned from most servers as it turns the game into noobs its not allowed in clan matches either.
-The only way i can think of making it more fair is to have it as a secondary kit item, that way people will have to make a sacrafice...frag or cmag.

Either way i think they shoudl make the ret spread a lot more.

Also mayb running slower with bigger guns?

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 03:17 AM
With the flashlights relic. all rainbow have nightvision anyway so flashlights wouldnt really be any good. Tactical units like swat dont tend to have NV (well a few years back they didnt anyway lol) in that situ flashlights would be good.

C-Mags, the rainbow's body-build is not able to hold a c-mag rifle, not even two handed. If anyones seen blade 2, "Chupa" holds an m14+c-mag with one hand(firing), and look at the build on him its like arnie sorta build needed, for double handed youd need to be bigger than the rainbow team. Any c-mag weapon I have seen has needed i bi-pod (except MP5A4)

Running slowly with larger weapons (lmg's, larger sniper rifles) is a must really, more realism is needed but thats on the bottom of the very long list UBI gotta sort lol

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 03:21 AM
-What weapon attachments would you like to see ?



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06-26-2003, 03:29 AM
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Do you think they have one big enough for the ladder bug?

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 03:37 AM
look at my sig, it says it all.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 03:59 AM
lol, nice cigarette lighter

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 04:14 AM
Flashlights and Laser pointers!

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 04:50 AM
Something all Spec Ops units have - AN/PEQ2A to use with NODs.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 05:14 AM
i think this should cover it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 05:19 AM
Like in URZ's sig pic there: Have double mags as well as Cmags. Not only does it look better, but it would allow better balance. ie, Gives a reason to have LMGs.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:54 AM
GRENADE LAUNCHERS AND BAYONETS
the m16 rifles are espically equipped with bayonets in warfare maybe we can start the stabbing

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:55 AM
i remembered if u paly the presido map against terrorists, they would use flashlights.....

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 10:12 AM
Hate to rain on your parade but C-mags actually reduce recoil and are quite easy for to use.

Besides from fixing the damage model of the weapons I think Flashlights would be good. Laser Designators are kind of redundant but would make neat eye-candy.

I would love to have a scope/reflex sight and a suppressor on a weapon at the same time. Happens in real life, why not in the virtual world?

But first and foremost I would love to see the damage model fixed. Shooting people in the head with a suppressed M4 should kill them, not **** them off...

XyZspineZyX
09-13-2003, 09:52 PM
I would love Raven Shield if they made barrel mounted flashlights for weapons. As far as I know a lot of tactical units use them. I would also like to say that I am disapointed in Athena Sword and Raven Sield for putting crappy weapons in Athena Sword, so an m203 and a barrel mounted flashlight would make up for most of that crap.

XyZspineZyX
09-13-2003, 10:52 PM
- Utilisation of multiple weapon attachments for a weapon at the same time, with Server side toggle.
- Forward handle grips (improved stabilisation)
- IR aiming light (i.e. AN / PAQ - 4C)
- Tactical Flashlight

It would also be nice to see Rail interface systems replacing the stock handguards.

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XyZspineZyX
09-13-2003, 11:31 PM
A laser would be brilliant, using one would imediatly mean that its near perfect aim, cos as long as you put the dot on the target thats where the bullet will hopefully go, no spreading crosshairs on pistols

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 12:40 AM
I get a kick out of all you guys asking for lasers. You essentially have one buddy...that red dot in your reticle. Believe it or not a rela laser doesn't give you some fancy schmancy red beam from your weapon to the point of impatc, all you see is a nice little red (or green, depending on the laser) dot. Wow...exciting...ever played HL:Opfor? Their laser sight is not too bad a rendering.

Flashlights, however, would make a VERY interesting contribution, especially if they could be switched on and off with Alternate fire.

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 12:57 AM
why do people bother with these threads?

all they are doing is putting 7 weapons in and thats it so ts a bit pointless saying you want all this

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 01:05 AM
mp_ryan wrote:
- I get a kick out of all you guys asking for lasers.
- You essentially have one buddy...that red dot in
- your reticle. Believe it or not a rela laser
- doesn't give you some fancy schmancy red beam from
- your weapon to the point of impatc, all you see is a
- nice little red (or green, depending on the laser)
- dot. Wow...exciting...ever played HL:Opfor? Their
- laser sight is not too bad a rendering.


Yeah, I hope that most of us know that its not like a lightsaber, but if it were a dot which showed where we were actually going to shoot would be helpful. They should make it so when you get a laser on your gun and when you switch it on, your rets disappear. Then you have a view of the laser, which would be more accurate. You could actually see where your bullet would hit, instead of a relative area.

...Yeah, ok, that argument sucked, heres a better one:

It would look so cool. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 01:56 AM
How about the ability to attach vertical hand grips that go on the RIS like for the M-16 and M4. It could also work for most of the H&K weapons, like in real life. Also, LAMs would be nice; they could replace your reticle when equiped. Flash lights would be nice; you could turn them on with the ALT fire key and would be an alternative in the dark because the NVGs pretty much hinder your vision more than anything. A new neat accessory that could take up an entire "attachment" slot would be a double mag clip, it could speed up reload times at the cost of being able to take a suppressor, etc.. I dont think these ideas are too bad and they're perfectly feasible. Just hope the SDK comes out sooner than December so modders can apply these kinds of things that the dev team refuses to. no flaming plz /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 02:43 AM
a Bazooka - like in Ghost Recon.
yeah, not realistic but fun!


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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 05:14 AM
Well there is another thing to consider if you really want a laser sight implemented and still have it be as realistic as possible.....LAM (laser aim modules) are no different than any other sighting system in respect to windage/elevation and boresight correlated to range....i.e. the sight must be zeroed for a specific range....you can not change this on the fly, and you can not use a module that has been zeroed for 50 meters and use it engaging targets at 100 meters and be able to expect accuracy....of coures you could learn to adjust.

shponglefish wrote:
With the flashlights relic. all rainbow have nightvision anyway so flashlights wouldnt really be any good. Tactical units like swat dont tend to have NV (well a few years back they didnt anyway lol) in that situ flashlights would be good.

C-Mags, the rainbow's body-build is not able to hold a c-mag rifle, not even two handed. If anyones seen blade 2, "Chupa" holds an m14+c-mag with one hand(firing), and look at the build on him its like arnie sorta build needed, for double handed youd need to be bigger than the rainbow team. Any c-mag weapon I have seen has needed i bi-pod (except MP5A4)


Fusion_RR: what a load of crap, this is what?, based soley on your assumptions or on hollywood enactments or both, word of advice go elsewhere to show off your obvious lack of intelligence on such matters.......cmags add stability to the weapon while firing....extra weight always adds stability irl, it does however slow reaction time down, it doe not increase the weight of the weapons system as much as 3x, 1 cmag is equilivent to 10 rounds more than 3 full magazines....and in the game if you choose the cmag loadout you are allowed only 200 rounds opposed to loading out with the 30 round magazine in which case you get a total of 300 rounds.....then you go on to state that swat teams no longer utilize nvg equipment....or something to the effect they either equip with one or the other.....however irl the usually equip both as a back-up in case of failure of either component......look I really am not trying to flame you but you said/assumed some pretty crazy stuff, adn the you try to pass it off as the gospel without realizing that there are actually a few people who use this forum who actually have had expeirence with such things and know the difference between fact and fiction.

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 07:06 AM
reflex sight or aimpoint

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09-14-2003, 09:58 AM
Flamethrower....mmmmmmmmmm....

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 12:09 PM
Tac lights, scope/suppressor, reflex sights, lasers, only if you can see them through smoke, forward hand grip(s), M203 for launching gas or smoke, like in the X-BOX version. Once SWAT Urban Justice comes out I'm getting rid of Raven Shield because of the REALISM in the SWAT games. You can customize your weapons at any point, real bullet penetration, characteristics, density, etc. Click the link below to see what I'm talking about.

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 04:37 PM
mp_ryan wrote:
- I get a kick out of all you guys asking for lasers.
- You essentially have one buddy...that red dot in
- your reticle.

Yes, but not everybody uses the crosshair... I don't because If you turn it off you'll eventually memorize the innacuracy effects of your weapon and be able to hit a target. (Oddly on raven shield, it seems as if the bullets follow a patttern within the crosshair at a blume, making it harder with the crosshair on than off.) Not to mention... you don't got a crosshair in real life, and raven shield does allow you to look down your sights(actually more like zooming in on the gun.... but ... Okay....)

I would love to have laser sights and flashlights implemented into Raven Shield, flashlights shouldn't be difficult at all considering terrorists already have the model made for them. Once I read something that was posted on this site( FAQ maybe ) saying that laser sights and flash lights would never be used by special forces operatives, or somethin' like that. In that case, it can be a multi-player only feature right??? It wouldn't hurt.
Also in the beginning movie, if you look at the troops running through that hallway, 1 of them has an M203 grenade launcher attatched to his M16A2. You already have an exterior model for that so that would be neat... (especialy if you can fire smoke/flash projectiles, not neccesarily explosives as that would transform things too much)

I know the Luger is really inaccurate and somewhat unreliable, but it'd be really fun for you guys to put it in the game. (made in 1908... I'm sure if some guy happened to own a luger and joined special forces and he complained enough they'd let him use it)

You already have the model for the luger down(exterior anyways), as you also see it in the beginning movie, and it looks pretty cool, you also got sound waves for it too in that movie, so that would be one less step maybe...
That'd be cool to have it in the game even if it's the least accurate, least ranged, and maybe a low damage like 7, 8, or 9.Don't have to make it incredibly stable either.
And maybe a slow refire rate? The only exceptable feature has to be recovery(maybe... if even)

It'd still be fun to have, and I don't think TOO many people would use it all the time, but I'm sure it'd bring a lot of fun and eye candy, not to mention... still hurts at point blank right??? hehe... execution style...I like to sneak up on people when they camp and shoot them point blank in the back of the head. That'd be fun with a luger.







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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 11:28 PM
Give me a knife !!

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 12:06 AM
concerning SWAT UJ- i don't know about the gameplay but the graphics leave alot to be desired...

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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 01:15 AM
Tac lights, vertical foregrips, and supersonic ammo for the suppressors.

Most of all, I want to be able to put on more than one attachment, as in three to five.

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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 02:49 AM
Aqua-Cat wrote:
- mp_ryan wrote:
- I know the Luger is really inaccurate and somewhat
- unreliable, but it'd be really fun for you guys to
- put it in the game. (made in 1908... I'm sure if
- some guy happened to own a luger and joined special
- forces and he complained enough they'd let him use
- it)
-
- You already have the model for the luger
- down(exterior anyways), as you also see it in the
- beginning movie, and it looks pretty cool, you also
- got sound waves for it too in that movie, so that
- would be one less step maybe...
- That'd be cool to have it in the game even if it's
- the least accurate, least ranged, and maybe a low
- damage like 7, 8, or 9.Don't have to make it
- incredibly stable either.
- And maybe a slow refire rate? The only exceptable
- feature has to be recovery(maybe... if even)
-
- It'd still be fun to have, and I don't think TOO
- many people would use it all the time, but I'm sure
- it'd bring a lot of fun and eye candy, not to
- mention... still hurts at point blank right???
- hehe... execution style...I like to sneak up on
- people when they camp and shoot them point blank in
- the back of the head. That'd be fun with a luger.


whyare you obsessed with the luger? whats so great about it? If anything they should put a Glock 17, 18 or 19c, or a Walther P99, or a Smith & Wesson SW99 (esentially the same gun - they were co-developed), or if ur into older guns a Colt M1911 (a.k.a. Government .45)

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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 07:54 AM
Flashlight is all thats needed.

Laser sights suck.

Why was M24SWS left out of the game?

As for SWAT: UJ being good...

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

The men in it look like theyre made out of rubber. Hahaha.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 08:20 AM
i want the ots groza with grenade launcher /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 09:34 AM
- Laser sight
- Tactical light (flashlight)
- Flash hider (hides flash but doesn't slow down bullet)
- Underbarrel tactical chainsaw launcher

Just kidding on that fourth item.


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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 09:51 AM
FuTaR0 wrote:
- i want the ots groza with grenade launcher

I thought the Groza is coming out in Athena Sword?

I hope it is cause its my favorite gun in Ghost Recon Island Thunder.....

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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 07:02 PM
How about shotgun chokes?

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 09:25 PM
aint the red dot on the reticle already kind of a laser ?????

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 02:44 AM
id like to see those mags that are 2 just taped together for faster reloads but mainly id like to see personal armor
options not just the hole server

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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 06:21 AM
Humvee

Riot shield

50cal machine gun

Samurai sword

Bow and arrow

Option to wear hawaiin shirts instead of armor

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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 08:21 AM
Maybe a Swiss Army bayonet that has a fold out stinger missle launcher, MRE pouch, chainsaw, jackhammer, and 51mm mortar.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:50 PM
Well how about a nice piece of rope so you can put all of the weapons together, nice fire power lol.

No really a flashlight would be good as i know alot of people dont use NV.

Another good idea would be to have some type of mode or MOD for you to completely choose what you want on your gun, ie scope on pistols, thermal on LMG ect.

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 02:05 AM
It's not that I'm obsessed with the luger( or is it?? ) but in any case, they already made a model for the luger, or it appears so anyways in the beginning movie, so it should be easy for them to convert it into a weapon right?


Indeed I would like a glock 18 or 17 or Walther P99 very very much in the game, but since they already had an appearance of the P.08 Luger in the movies, and didn't put it into the game, it just annoys the heck out of me.



SeanDaMan646 wrote:
- whyare you obsessed with the luger? whats so great
- about it? If anything they should put a Glock 17, 18
- or 19c, or a Walther P99, or a Smith & Wesson SW99
- (esentially the same gun - they were co-developed),
- or if ur into older guns a Colt M1911 (a.k.a.
- Government .45)
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